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is not this a flagrant TOS violation ? (Original Post) drray23 May 2016 OP
this is: "I would like to encourage people to write in Bernie even if he does not get msongs May 2016 #1
They're deluded StayFrosty May 2016 #2
Yes. And that poster is even more explicit within the thread. SunSeeker May 2016 #3
Thanks for the link to Hillary Clinton Supporters.com, SunSeeker~ Cha May 2016 #6
My pleasure. SunSeeker May 2016 #10
Here's how to pass it on and alert admins. Alert on the post, if it has already been alerted on you Maru Kitteh May 2016 #7
Those advocating that bullshit, aren't Democrats anyway, and we don't need them to win. They still_one May 2016 #16
it should be, and they have been skirting topics like this for months, including some saying they still_one May 2016 #4
i just dont understand drray23 May 2016 #5
One patron of the great saint Bernard promises to LEAVE THE COUNTY if Bernie Maru Kitteh May 2016 #8
I tried to ask a question, but I got this message: Tortmaster May 2016 #9
LOL SunSeeker May 2016 #11
I replied to a post that began "Hey, Hillary supporters". Arkansas Granny May 2016 #14
Looks like it to me. MarianJack May 2016 #12
True, and it would be too late to get on the ballot in many states. Koinos May 2016 #13
The Constitution says if it goes to the house, the house decides from the existing still_one May 2016 #15
Thank you for correcting me! Koinos May 2016 #17
So those that are advocating a third party, are actually advocating that trump still_one May 2016 #19
I agree. Koinos May 2016 #21
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one May 2016 #22
Skinner made it clear to me Coolest Ranger May 2016 #18
Most won't until after Hillary is the President, then they will continuously trash her like still_one May 2016 #20
Just their discussion of it proves they obviously don't know politics and rules leftofcool May 2016 #23
Stay out of protected groups where you know sufrommich May 2016 #24
Poor things ... NurseJackie May 2016 #25
I trashed the Sanders Group months ago. I've been here since livetohike May 2016 #26
Read post 58 - This is why the system here does not work. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #27

msongs

(67,438 posts)
1. this is: "I would like to encourage people to write in Bernie even if he does not get
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:38 AM
May 2016

the nomination." from the OP

StayFrosty

(237 posts)
2. They're deluded
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:41 AM
May 2016

Bernie isn't winning

He's losing the popular vote and he's losing with delegates but it's Hillary the one that's supposed to drop out

SunSeeker

(51,675 posts)
3. Yes. And that poster is even more explicit within the thread.
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:46 AM
May 2016

He or she glamorizes it citing Bruce Springsteen and "Born to Run" and that Sanders would "crush them" in a three-way race.

It is totally and utterly a TOS violation. But we are outnumbered on the juries, as you know. Plus it is within the Bernie Group, and juries give threads in that group a lot more leeway, unlike threads in our group. That is why alert-stalking is so effective in the Hillary group.

Hence that OP did not get a hide. But I bet your post will be alerted on and it is anybody's guess if it survives.

Sorry. But that is the sad reality of DU these days. That is why Hillary supporters have started their own safe haven sites elsewhere, like http://hillaryclintonsupporters.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=103

Maru Kitteh

(28,342 posts)
7. Here's how to pass it on and alert admins. Alert on the post, if it has already been alerted on you
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:52 AM
May 2016

will get an email with jury results. In the lower left you will see "alert abuse" again. Hit it and pass on your concerns to admins.

easy peasy

still_one

(92,381 posts)
16. Those advocating that bullshit, aren't Democrats anyway, and we don't need them to win. They
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:36 AM
May 2016

are a bunch of losers, following in the footsteps nader, and are evolving into irrelevancy

That DU allows that third party advocacy garbage is pretty sad



still_one

(92,381 posts)
4. it should be, and they have been skirting topics like this for months, including some saying they
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:46 AM
May 2016

will never vote for Hillary if she is the Democratic nominee

Essentially, DU has become an anti-Hillary site, and about the only place where that doesn't occur is in the Hillary group



drray23

(7,637 posts)
5. i just dont understand
Thu May 5, 2016, 02:47 AM
May 2016

why the DU admins have let it go so far. We have people running around with 10 or more hides since that too was suspended. Blatent TOS violations every day. Now with complete immunity these non democrat posters are destroying DU as well. Its turning into free republic or such. If if wanted to listen to crazy rw talking points i would go there.

Maru Kitteh

(28,342 posts)
8. One patron of the great saint Bernard promises to LEAVE THE COUNTY if Bernie
Thu May 5, 2016, 03:04 AM
May 2016

is not on the ballot in November.


Is it so wrong that I want to help him pack?

Tortmaster

(382 posts)
9. I tried to ask a question, but I got this message:
Thu May 5, 2016, 03:05 AM
May 2016

Last edited Thu May 5, 2016, 03:39 AM - Edit history (1)

"You have been blocked from participating in the Bernie Sanders group by one of its Hosts."


I just wanted to ask: Is this a Republican ratfucking operation? It seems to me that if what you are doing is in no way distinguishable from a Republican ratfucking operation, then you should be asked if what you are doing is a Republican ratfucking operation.

I understand that my question would have probably violated the site rules, but at least it is distinguishable from a Republican ratfucking operation.

Arkansas Granny

(31,528 posts)
14. I replied to a post that began "Hey, Hillary supporters".
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:22 AM
May 2016

I asked if it wasn't unfair to directly pose a question to a group that wasn't allowed to answer. I was told that everyone was welcome to post if they would mind their manners. When I tried to reply to that I got the message that I was blocked.

I've noticed that many Bernie supporters brag about how many posters they have on ignore. Some are supposedly ignoring hundreds. They don't want a debate, they want an echo chamber.

A very thin skinned, intolerant group.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
13. True, and it would be too late to get on the ballot in many states.
Thu May 5, 2016, 05:41 AM
May 2016

But in a three-way election, if no one gets a majority of electoral votes, the race would be decided by the House of Representatives. That Republican body could pick one of the candidates or someone else altogether. Bernie would end up a spoiler, which he promised he would not be, since the House of Representatives would assuredly choose a Republican.

still_one

(92,381 posts)
15. The Constitution says if it goes to the house, the house decides from the existing
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:31 AM
May 2016

candidates, not someone else altogether, and since it is a majority of republicans in the house, they would choose trump. They sure as hell won't choose sanders, and they won't choose Hillary either



Koinos

(2,792 posts)
17. Thank you for correcting me!
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:41 AM
May 2016

Here is the relevant section:

The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice.

still_one

(92,381 posts)
19. So those that are advocating a third party, are actually advocating that trump
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:53 AM
May 2016

becomes president. Of course that is assuming that those willing to vote third party have enough people. They definitely won't have enough to win 270 electoral college votes.

I personally don't think third party votes against Hillary, by some supposed Sanders supporters would matter. I think Hillary will exceed the required 270 electoral votes regardless.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
21. I agree.
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:00 AM
May 2016

Whether that small number would vote for Sanders or stay home, wouldn't change things very much. They are not as important in the final scheme of things as they think they are.

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
18. Skinner made it clear to me
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:47 AM
May 2016

once Hillary secures the nomination anyone posting or trying that crap anywhere on the site will get the big fat boot.

still_one

(92,381 posts)
20. Most won't until after Hillary is the President, then they will continuously trash her like
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:55 AM
May 2016

they did mostly on President Obama

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
23. Just their discussion of it proves they obviously don't know politics and rules
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:24 AM
May 2016

I believe that it is too late according to the rules to get on all state ballots except South Dakota.

livetohike

(22,162 posts)
26. I trashed the Sanders Group months ago. I've been here since
Thu May 5, 2016, 07:42 AM
May 2016

2004 and this was the first time I trashed a group, or put anyone on ignore. GD Politics is gone too.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
27. Read post 58 - This is why the system here does not work.
Thu May 5, 2016, 08:07 AM
May 2016
I have gotten several alerts to shut

down this discussion.

You are asking questions but not directly advocating for a third party here so to me this is not a ToS violation.

But Clinton supporters will continue to alert on this and may try to jury so just an FYI.

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