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Cha

(297,362 posts)
Thu May 5, 2016, 11:30 PM May 2016

Why are you still in the race, Bernie?

Sen. Bernie Sanders’s magic-wand campaign has grown tiresome. Despite his win in Indiana and #DropOutHillary trending on Twitter as of this writing, the democratic socialist from Vermont’s chances of becoming the Democratic Party’s presidential nominee are as slim as Karlie Kloss’s dress at Monday’s Met Gala. And yet Sanders is on the campaign trail demanding things of his adopted party that can’t be delivered and saying things about rival Hillary Clinton that Donald Trump is already using against her.

Everything Sanders said is right and true. More people, not fewer, should be allowed to participate. There should be open primaries. There should be same-day registration. There should be automatic voter registration for 18-year-olds. But how, when and whether people vote is controlled by the states. And Republican governors sit in 31 states, with 22 of them having GOP-controlled legislatures. So, unless Sanders has a magic wand or one last wish held in escrow by a genie, none of what he wants will get done.

Even more ridiculous is Sanders’s insistence that superdelegates choose him over Clinton. As reporters at The Post, NPR and Vox have pointed out, even if superdelegates in states that Sanders won switched from her to him he’d still lose the nomination. And those folks don’t really have any incentive to do so. With Tuesday’s results from the Indiana primary factored in, Clinton now has 3.1 million more raw votes than Sanders. So the superdelegates are already backing a winning candidate.

Another problem for the wannabe nominee is his unwillingness to raise money for the Democratic Party. Sanders is fond of saying, as he did at a MSNBC town hall late last month, that “the only way we transform this country . . . is when millions of people stand up, fight back and demand that we have a government that represents all of us, not just the 1 percent.” Well, that revolution to follow through on his call to break up the banks, erase student debt and make public colleges and universities tuition-free is dead on arrival without Democrats in the House and the Senate to help turn revolutionary fervor into concrete action. And Sanders completely ignores the presence of the Republican Party, now in thrall to Donald Trump.

More to the story~https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/05/04/why-are-you-still-in-the-race-bernie/

Bravenak!

LOL@#DropOutHillary.. they want Hillary to drop out so BS can be #bernieSoAnointed.. Aren't Mr & Mrs BS going around calling Hillary "the anointed one"?!

Happy Cinco de Mayo, Everybody!



Hillary's Group!

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Why are you still in the race, Bernie? (Original Post) Cha May 2016 OP
it is now the trump/sanders campaign against hillary. msongs May 2016 #1
We can't forget the M$M.. and it's always been that way. Cha May 2016 #17
Bernie & Jane have officially become The Donald's newest surrogates! Walk away May 2016 #46
K & R Iliyah May 2016 #2
Hey, Iliyah~ Cha May 2016 #33
Bernie doesn't make a very good Democrat. sheshe2 May 2016 #3
Thanks for noticing the hot sauce, she.. that was one of my favorite parts.. I just remembered Cha May 2016 #6
Ya. sheshe2 May 2016 #9
They may not matter to burnie but we matter to the Majority of our Cha May 2016 #10
It took me a few times to get it right. sheshe2 May 2016 #11
HUD Sec Julian Castro and Hillary may be a harbinger of things to come~Hope So! Cha May 2016 #13
well.......... sheshe2 May 2016 #14
I like your reasoning and optimism about Julian Castro.. I share your enthusiasm! Cha May 2016 #15
Yes. sheshe2 May 2016 #16
What a beautiful story, sheshe! Haveadream May 2016 #38
I missed the hot sauce story other than skimming Control-Z May 2016 #32
I think she was talking about the "hot sauce" in the OP for Cinco de Mayo.. Cha May 2016 #36
I remember her talking about hot sauce NastyRiffraff May 2016 #54
I can relate! Cha May 2016 #56
I wish he'd come to his senses. sarae May 2016 #4
LOL SunSeeker May 2016 #25
Excellent point, sarae! Wonder if that bothers the b'ys over @ camp burnie? Cha May 2016 #40
They'll find a way to rationalize anything at this point. sarae May 2016 #45
Their probem is.. they Cha May 2016 #53
Thanks Cha. K&R fleabiscuit May 2016 #5
Gracias, flea~ Cha May 2016 #41
that's one of my favorite hot sauces nini May 2016 #7
Think about what DU has become ... LannyDeVaney May 2016 #8
Weaver and Devine gotta get paid. (eom) oasis May 2016 #12
After California votes he's going to wish he had. ucrdem May 2016 #18
Are you hearing good things in California, ucr? Cha May 2016 #19
Estoy contigo, love it! ucrdem May 2016 #20
p.s. apparently Bernie fans were behind the dustup at Cal State today: ucrdem May 2016 #21
It appears it was just a small group of Bernistas at East L.A. College. SunSeeker May 2016 #26
Gracias for that, SunSeeker~ The loudest but not Cha May 2016 #28
The Sandernistas were very much outnumbered. SunSeeker May 2016 #29
How Cool is that.. @ a College no less! I loved reading that news report.. Gracias, SunSeeker~ Cha May 2016 #31
Thank you for this! that's the part I Cha May 2016 #22
LOL. ucrdem May 2016 #23
Ah, I'm glad you clarified that! I really appreciate Jonathan Capehart's first line.. Cha May 2016 #24
Apparently Sanders is running out of money Control-Z May 2016 #35
That would so be just desserts for sanders. Cha May 2016 #48
Look on the front page of Thursday's LA Times... Hekate May 2016 #27
April is the cruelest month ucrdem May 2016 #30
Here is a similar article from the LA Times: Koinos May 2016 #39
Sanders' fundraising is slowing just when he needs it most – for California Her Sister May 2016 #42
Thank you! That's the one. Hekate May 2016 #47
Oh, I hope so.. that would be just desserts for burnie.. Cha May 2016 #49
Vanity. Pride. Ego. NurseJackie May 2016 #34
I think Bernie's mouthpiece said it best... workinclasszero May 2016 #37
That's if trump won.. It's Hillary's Revolution carried on from Obama's. BS' was too late. Cha May 2016 #50
Thanks for this article! Her Sister May 2016 #43
He's a loser and who knew he'd be such a poor one? LOL Cha May 2016 #52
His campaign wants to eliminate the supers' support of Clinton pandr32 May 2016 #44
He's that tiresome uncle who talks a lot of crap and who won't leave till you push him out the door. Squinch May 2016 #51
I hope the DNC has learned a lesson NastyRiffraff May 2016 #55

sheshe2

(83,804 posts)
3. Bernie doesn't make a very good Democrat.
Thu May 5, 2016, 11:45 PM
May 2016

We work for all the people, that includes down ticket Dems. I guess Independents work independently.

Thanks Cha, great post.

Love the hot sauce.

Cha

(297,362 posts)
6. Thanks for noticing the hot sauce, she.. that was one of my favorite parts.. I just remembered
Thu May 5, 2016, 11:59 PM
May 2016

I read Hillary takes Hot Sauce wherever she goes!

burny didn't make a very good candidate for the Democratic Nomination.. that is for sure.

He tears down the Nominee of Democratic Party, Hillary Clinton.. he disses the successful Democratic President of the United States of America, he won't contribute to helping Dem Candidates on the down tickets.. yet wants everything to appear magically that a Dem Congress could actually make happen.

BS is not into building a strong Democratic foundation.. he has no gravitas.. so grateful he's out.. now he just wants to be #theanointedone.

@PropaneJane
The truly disgusting part about Bernie's contested convention aspirations is how he thinks he's entitled to override the will of POC/women.
https://twitter.com/theonlyadult

Mahalo, she~

Cha

(297,362 posts)
10. They may not matter to burnie but we matter to the Majority of our
Fri May 6, 2016, 12:13 AM
May 2016

country.. we don't need burnie.

I love your new sig line, she.. very artful!

sheshe2

(83,804 posts)
11. It took me a few times to get it right.
Fri May 6, 2016, 12:17 AM
May 2016

Post Image where I usually go crashed. I had to go to Photobucket to finish.

Thanks Cha!

Cha

(297,362 posts)
13. HUD Sec Julian Castro and Hillary may be a harbinger of things to come~Hope So!
Fri May 6, 2016, 12:31 AM
May 2016

I know what you mean about doing it a few times to get it right, she..

What did Photobucket do to help? I just use PB to download from my pic file.

Mahalo~

sheshe2

(83,804 posts)
14. well..........
Fri May 6, 2016, 12:42 AM
May 2016

PB was up and running, that helped. I just haven't used them much. I have gone with what I was familiar with.

As for Julian. He is my choice and I believe Hills. Their energy combined will ignite voters. I know some don't want him at this time. He is young.....yet so was Obama. My bet, he will be our President eight years after Hill.

Cha

(297,362 posts)
15. I like your reasoning and optimism about Julian Castro.. I share your enthusiasm!
Fri May 6, 2016, 12:52 AM
May 2016

I think Julian's a quick learner like then Sen Obama.. he didn't grow up speaking Espanol but has been studying it since 2010 is what I read.. So he's able to speak to our Latino People who are more fluent in their own language.

President Obama chose him because he knows he's capable.. and Liberal_Stalwart says he's her boss and she likes him.. he knows what he's doing!

I also read recently that Latinos are the fasting growing block who have registered to Vote this year.

I wonder why?

sheshe2

(83,804 posts)
16. Yes.
Fri May 6, 2016, 01:06 AM
May 2016

I'm know he is studying the language....and ridiculed for not be fluent. F them. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Ha! Love he is LS's boss. Awesome.

Latinos are a huge block. I was talking to a friend tonight, she is from Columbia. We discussed that they are rushing to become citizens to vote. When I first met her she was not. I helped her study for the test. She passed.

Hugs Cha.

Haveadream

(1,630 posts)
38. What a beautiful story, sheshe!
Fri May 6, 2016, 08:50 AM
May 2016

Love that you helped your friend study and that she is excited to vote Hillary!



Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
32. I missed the hot sauce story other than skimming
Fri May 6, 2016, 04:35 AM
May 2016

some obviously vile subject lines from the Berners. Can you tell me what hillary did that was so wrong it garnered such ridicule?

Cha

(297,362 posts)
36. I think she was talking about the "hot sauce" in the OP for Cinco de Mayo..
Fri May 6, 2016, 08:17 AM
May 2016

other than that.. I've read Hillary takes hot sauce with her wherever she goes cause she likes it so much.

I have no idea about what burnies think about It nor do I care.

Control-Z

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
54. I remember her talking about hot sauce
Sat May 7, 2016, 05:49 PM
May 2016

and how much she likes it. It was in a Town Hall in answer to a question from the audience; she talked like she really, REALLY loves the stuff!

Cha

(297,362 posts)
56. I can relate!
Sat May 7, 2016, 11:48 PM
May 2016


Hillary Clinton Tells Urban Radio Show She Always Carries Hot Sauce

hillary breakfast clubDuring an interview with hip-hop show The Breakfast Club Monday morning, Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton told the minority hosts that she always carries a bottle of hot sauce in her purse.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/hillary-clinton-tells-urban-radio-show-she-always-carries-hot-sauce/

Riff

sarae

(3,284 posts)
4. I wish he'd come to his senses.
Thu May 5, 2016, 11:52 PM
May 2016

I remember when BS was asked how he would get his proposals passed, he said that if he did become the nominee, it would be because so many people turned out to vote. The fact that he'd have so many people backing him would theoretically provide the necessary support to "transform the country" (because millions of people who voted for him would stand on the White House Lawn for 4 months straight or something, LOLOLOL). Well, he's obviously not getting the requisite votes, so doesn't that invalidate his whole plan?

If he were to become the nominee by flipping superdelegates and convincing people he'd be a better match for Trump – where would the support necessary to enact his plans come from?

I don't know why I'm trying to make sense out of this...it's impossible!

Cha

(297,362 posts)
40. Excellent point, sarae! Wonder if that bothers the b'ys over @ camp burnie?
Fri May 6, 2016, 09:12 AM
May 2016

Would it have to be the Super dels standing outside Mitch McConnell's Window then?! Or if the Dems down ticket would succeed with the funds that Hillary's worked for and donated to them.. maybe it will be a Dem Congress getting things done with Madam President leading the way.

Think about that bernies.

sarae

sarae

(3,284 posts)
45. They'll find a way to rationalize anything at this point.
Fri May 6, 2016, 01:35 PM
May 2016

It's actually pretty amazing. I need that ability!

 

LannyDeVaney

(1,033 posts)
8. Think about what DU has become ...
Fri May 6, 2016, 12:05 AM
May 2016

a site where half or more of the posting members are openly hoping the presumptive nominee of the Democratic party is going to be indicted. A site where a significant portion of the posting members proudly proclaim they aren't democrats.

Just think about that.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
18. After California votes he's going to wish he had.
Fri May 6, 2016, 01:31 AM
May 2016


p.s. Happy Cinco de Mayo Cha!



pps I am loving my awesome H!!



Cha

(297,362 posts)
19. Are you hearing good things in California, ucr?
Fri May 6, 2016, 01:40 AM
May 2016

'Cause they would be so great if she won it by a nice margin!

Jonathan Capehart:

"Clinton and her campaign are wise not to call on Sanders to drop out. Having been in that spot before, she knows the stages of grief that must be endured to get to the point of dropping out. A true Democrat would look at the rest of the primary calendar and the electoral landscape and realize it is time to let the all-but-certain nominee focus her energy on a more dangerous, unpredictable and formidable general-election opponent. And Democrats will need more than magic wands and wishful thinking to beat Trump."

Happy Cinco de Mayo, ucr!

Gracias!

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
20. Estoy contigo, love it!
Fri May 6, 2016, 01:50 AM
May 2016

It's partly what I'm NOT hearing. There were big plans afoot to bring the Bernie show to CA but haven't heard a peep about it in months. Meanwhile Hillary is campaigning bigtime right here in So Cal. This just in, about a demonstration this afternoon at Cal State LA which is in East LA:

She is pushing for a show of force in California's June 7 primary against Bernie Sanders. She said "winning big in California will put us on the path to winning big in November."

Clinton was attending fundraisers and courting black and Latino voters in Los Angeles on Thursday, before her afternoon speech at the college.

She met with local black leaders during a stop at the California African American Museum in Exposition Park, where she touted her lead over Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders.

"I am 3 million-plus votes ahead of Senator Sanders, right?" Clinton told the crowd. "I am nearly 300 pledged delegates ahead of Senator Sanders."

Published 27 minutes ago

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Protesters-Gather-Outside-Hillary-Clinton-Rally-378350571.html


I was originally of the mind that they'd take it easy in CA and kind of coast on fumes but I guess Indiana changed that plan. So yeah, it's looking like we're going to deliver a helluva coup de grâce . Woohoo!

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
21. p.s. apparently Bernie fans were behind the dustup at Cal State today:
Fri May 6, 2016, 01:58 AM
May 2016

Beginning of the article:

Protesters Gather Outside Hillary Clinton Rally

Protesters gathered Thursday in the streets and on the campus of East Los Angeles College in Monterey Park, where former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton brought her campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination.

Protesters supporting Clinton's Democratic rival, Bernie Sanders, clashed with her supporters outside the college as a cordon of police kept watch.


SunSeeker

(51,576 posts)
26. It appears it was just a small group of Bernistas at East L.A. College.
Fri May 6, 2016, 02:48 AM
May 2016

And they certainly did not speak for the other students, but as usual they were the loudest.

SunSeeker

(51,576 posts)
29. The Sandernistas were very much outnumbered.
Fri May 6, 2016, 03:48 AM
May 2016
...

Mariachis entertained the crowd of nearly 2,000 before Clinton spoke, and she was introduced by a college student who lived in fear of her mother being deported.

Surveying the crowd crammed into a stuffy college gym, Clinton declared that she could think of no better place to celebrate Cinco de Mayo. She called for comprehensive immigration reform and a path? for citizenship for those in the country illegally. 

...
The boisterous rally was Clinton’s final public stop of the day. Earlier, she met with African American leaders and headlined a fundraiser hosted by Los Angeles City Councilman Jose Huizar. The region’s top Democratic officials turned out to support Clinton, including Mayor Eric Garcetti, Reps. Xavier Becerra and Judy Chu, county Supervisor Hilda Solis, and Senate President Pro Tem Kevin de León.
...
A handful of Sanders supporters unsuccessfully tried to interrupt her evening speech, and scores more protested outside. Clinton, however, focused on a general-election argument by repeatedly skewering Trump, who became the presumptive GOP nominee as Texas Sen. Ted Cruz and Ohio Gov. John Kasich ended their presidential campaigns this week.


http://touch.latimes.com/#section/1129/article/p2p-87096298/

Cha

(297,362 posts)
31. How Cool is that.. @ a College no less! I loved reading that news report.. Gracias, SunSeeker~
Fri May 6, 2016, 04:09 AM
May 2016
"Mariachis entertained the crowd of nearly 2,000 before Clinton spoke, and she was introduced by a college student who lived in fear of her mother being deported."

Right on Hillary's table!

"The region’s top Democratic officials turned out to support Clinton, including Mayor Eric Garcetti, Reps. Xavier Becerra and Judy Chu, county Supervisor Hilda Solis, and Senate President Pro Tem Kevin de León."

Cha

(297,362 posts)
22. Thank you for this! that's the part I
Fri May 6, 2016, 02:07 AM
May 2016

would have snipped, too.. who cares about what the sanders fans are saying.. BS has been feeding them bad info.

I know so many people are for Hillary in California.. and I know they will be going up and down the state to campaign for her.

I hope she wins big there.. she's fighting BS, M$M, and freaking DT.

She's already won the Nmination.. she just needs to show them in California what it's all about!..

Mahalo, urc!

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
23. LOL.
Fri May 6, 2016, 02:20 AM
May 2016

In a few weeks they will be Trump supporters. Comme ci comme ça.

.............................

Jury: I'm not suggesting that Bernie supporters are Trump supporters, only that the protests will continue.

Cha

(297,362 posts)
24. Ah, I'm glad you clarified that! I really appreciate Jonathan Capehart's first line..
Fri May 6, 2016, 02:28 AM
May 2016
"Sen. Bernie Sanders’s magic-wand campaign has grown tiresome.. "

burnie fatique and he gives the reasons why.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
35. Apparently Sanders is running out of money
Fri May 6, 2016, 08:13 AM
May 2016

for the historical upset in California he promised his supporters.

Hekate

(90,727 posts)
27. Look on the front page of Thursday's LA Times...
Fri May 6, 2016, 03:24 AM
May 2016

"California may be out of Sanders' financial reach." by Chris Megarian and Evan Halper

Trying to find an adequate link -- I have the actual paper on my desk and the article is long.

Sorry. Not having any luck just now.

IIRC from what hubby said earlier today, the GOP presidential primary race may flatline here, because there's only Trump left.

But on our side it will be lively. Expensive -- very expensive -- because of the sheer size of California. A lot of our political climate is actually a good fit for Sanders, but he's burned through a tremendous amount of money, while Hillary has taken in more than she has spent up till now, so she is in good shape for the media buys that are a necessity here if you want to reach all the voters you need to reach.



ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
30. April is the cruelest month
Fri May 6, 2016, 03:51 AM
May 2016

when you bet the farm on NY and PA and lose both I guess. There's not a chance in hell he can turn it around in CA and I won't be surprised if he pulls the plug before he gets here.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
42. Sanders' fundraising is slowing just when he needs it most – for California
Fri May 6, 2016, 11:29 AM
May 2016
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-sanders-fundraising-california-20160505-story.html


Chris Megerian and Evan HalperContact Reporters
As Bernie Sanders looks toward California to make a defiant final stand, he is bumping up against a dilemma that his campaign has not had to confront in some time.

He is running short on cash.

In no state is money more crucial for a candidate than in California. Its sheer size, in both geography and population, makes running here a ridiculously expensive endeavor. Its media markets are some of the most costly in the world, and candidates who try to sidestep big ad buys typically fail to convey their message to key segments of the electorate.

So now is a poor time for a precipitous drop in cash flow for Sanders. Amid a string of big losses to front-runner Hillary Clinton in April, Sanders' fundraising for the month fell to $25.8 million — which would seem a significant amount, except that in both February and March, he raised nearly $20 million more.

At the same time, he has been burning through his cash far more quickly than Clinton, outspending her in many of the big states he lost. Sanders has not yet reported his spending for April, but he likely spent well more than he raised based on the amount of airtime purchased, the size of his campaign's payroll, and the other expenses the campaign has in a typical month.
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
37. I think Bernie's mouthpiece said it best...
Fri May 6, 2016, 08:41 AM
May 2016
"Trump will bring the revolution"

Sanders revolution is a joke, an internet meme. Made up of trolls on reddit, DU, KOS, TYT etc.

The internet amplifies their voice to make them seem large. They turnout for big rallies on college campuses but they are AWOL at the ballot box every time.

That was Sanders Plan A. It was a massive fail. Far more 18 to 29 years old folks turned out to vote for BHO than Bernie.

What a glorious revolution!

So now its on to Plan B...."Trump will bring the revolution"

pandr32

(11,594 posts)
44. His campaign wants to eliminate the supers' support of Clinton
Fri May 6, 2016, 11:40 AM
May 2016

Sanders is a career politician. He has had decades to show he is worthy of superdelegate support, and he has earned almost none, while Hillary Clinton, through her incredible resume of experience and performance, has earned the majority. So what does he want now? The nomination should be based on pledged delegates only, and the supers should go to who Sanders believes runs better against Trump. Good grief!

Aloha Cha! Excellent post!

Squinch

(50,957 posts)
51. He's that tiresome uncle who talks a lot of crap and who won't leave till you push him out the door.
Fri May 6, 2016, 08:08 PM
May 2016

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
55. I hope the DNC has learned a lesson
Sat May 7, 2016, 06:08 PM
May 2016

and never, EVER permit someone to run as a Democrat without being an actual Democrat for a reasonable period of time, some have suggested 2 years to 4-5 years. At any rate, it shouldn't be two months.

This guy crashes the party and then complains about the hors d'oeuvres, the wine served, the furniture, and the guests.

Thanks for this, Cha!

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