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BlueMTexpat

(15,373 posts)
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:00 AM May 2016

Please DNC, Please: Make it part of the rules

that NO PERSON can EVER again run for President of the United States as a Democratic candidate using the resources and goodwill of the Democratic Party unless that person has been a member of the party for at least some period LONGER than a couple months' worth of that person's political life. I would suggest 4-5 years, at least.

This 2016 experiment has been a MAJOR FAIL.

That is not simply my opinion.



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Please DNC, Please: Make it part of the rules (Original Post) BlueMTexpat May 2016 OP
That better be the first order of business! Appeasing livetohike May 2016 #1
He and his disciples are the living embodiment of a "fifth column"... Surya Gayatri May 2016 #8
Sadly, that has proven to be the case BlueMTexpat May 2016 #14
Ditto for me...we've only seen his true colors in the last 60-90 days, and they're pretty ugly. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #18
I was also on the fence until he started tallking SD overturning pop vote DLCWIdem May 2016 #25
Exactly. Can't wait until this over and we can focus on livetohike May 2016 #16
Amen! leftofcool May 2016 #2
No more party crashers 72DejaVu May 2016 #3
I agree 100%. Koinos May 2016 #4
Agree. Only registered Democrats. There is a "party" for a reason. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #6
Yes! It's so different state by state. Not sure how this can be livetohike May 2016 #7
It has to be done by the state legislatures. LiberalFighter May 2016 #20
Yes, when It's the the Democratic ticket.. Democrats should get to choose their candidate.. Cha May 2016 #12
not sure about this but DLCWIdem May 2016 #26
Yes yes and yes! Her Sister May 2016 #5
Yep! Little Star May 2016 #9
Yes, it may have to be a requirement, we do not need or want hostile take over Thinkingabout May 2016 #10
Yeah, especilally when all he does is live to suspend reality, whine, and Cha May 2016 #11
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THIS. MINIMUM 4 YEARS REGISTERED AS A DEMOCRAT. Light63 May 2016 #13
Democratic party only. stonecutter357 May 2016 #15
I totally agree... FarPoint May 2016 #17
I totally agree. nt SunSeeker May 2016 #19
5 years sounds good. IamMab May 2016 #21
This is where you all need to do some work. LiberalFighter May 2016 #22
Thanks for the process suggestions. BlueMTexpat May 2016 #23
and they can't be married to Jane! savalez May 2016 #24
!!! Tarheel_Dem May 2016 #28
What you said.... Tarheel_Dem May 2016 #27
That is a great idea! puffy socks May 2016 #29
Has BS ever declared that he was going to be a Democrat? liberal N proud May 2016 #30
His recent actions have shown BlueMTexpat May 2016 #31
He is registered as a Democrat now SharonClark May 2016 #32
Five years sounds good SharonClark May 2016 #33
I spoke with my Senator in D.C. in February, and she was saying exactly this. eastwestdem May 2016 #34
This says it all! BlueMTexpat May 2016 #35
I am 69 years old and have been a Democrat all my life Jake2413 May 2016 #36
Buh-bye, Jake. BlueMTexpat May 2016 #37
You are posting in The Hillary Group. Jake. sheshe2 May 2016 #40
Can we also arrange for a restraining order for Bernie Sanders???? Walk away May 2016 #38
How about disqualifying those who criticize the Democratic Party over several years. nt kstewart33 May 2016 #39
Thanks Blue, sheshe2 May 2016 #41
 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
8. He and his disciples are the living embodiment of a "fifth column"...
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:34 AM
May 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_column



A fifth column is any group of people who undermine a larger group—such as a nation or a besieged city—from within, usually in favor of an enemy group or nation. The activities of a fifth column can be overt or clandestine. Forces gathered in secret can mobilize openly to assist an external attack. This term is also extended to organized actions by military personnel. Clandestine fifth column activities can involve acts of sabotage, disinformation, or espionage executed within defense lines by secret sympathizers with an external force.

BlueMTexpat

(15,373 posts)
14. Sadly, that has proven to be the case
Sat May 7, 2016, 08:12 AM
May 2016

for those SBS supporters who were never Dems in the first place.

I was one of those naive enough to believe in Bernie at the beginning, even though Hillary was always my candidate.

I believed until the deliberate attempts to overturn the NV caucus results when I was very disappointed. But since the "unqualified" remark about Hillary and all subsequent and continuing actions, I have been thoroughly and completely disenchanted. I may be a slow learner, but I finally get there.

Never again. Never.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
18. Ditto for me...we've only seen his true colors in the last 60-90 days, and they're pretty ugly.
Sat May 7, 2016, 09:28 AM
May 2016
"I was one of those naive enough to believe in Bernie at the beginning, even though Hillary was always my candidate."




In fact, I can honestly say that I was fairly neutral, with a slight "penchant" for HRC. Now, I don't want to see his blatantly duplicitous butt anywhere near the WH.

DLCWIdem

(1,580 posts)
25. I was also on the fence until he started tallking SD overturning pop vote
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:35 PM
May 2016

This happened in right in WI. I usually vote early and waited because I wasn't sure. The week before the primary he (1) hypocritally turned around on using SD (2) when asked to say something about Feingold HE DID NOT while Hilliary did. I wasn't sure on his plans but when I saw he wasn't even going to talk about the Senator and try to regain his seat, well that settled it. Then I heard about Nevada and pulling a Ted Cruz there. From there on I made it a point to start vetting Bernie.

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
3. No more party crashers
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:15 AM
May 2016

We have seen, clearly and unequivocally, that such candidates attract elements bent on using the party's own processes to destroy it.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
4. I agree 100%.
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:15 AM
May 2016

I also believe that only registered Democrats should be allowed to vote in Democratic primaries.

People have the right to associate with like-minded individuals without disruption or interference from non-members.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
6. Agree. Only registered Democrats. There is a "party" for a reason.
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:22 AM
May 2016

People of like mind coming together to choose THEIR candidate.

LiberalFighter

(51,093 posts)
20. It has to be done by the state legislatures.
Sat May 7, 2016, 09:35 AM
May 2016

There needs to be an incentive of some sort that will encourage them to change it. Maybe select one or two states and encourage all Democrats to vote in the Republican Primary. And of course for the wrong candidate. Then let the Republican Party know that it will happen in the next election too.

Cha

(297,673 posts)
12. Yes, when It's the the Democratic ticket.. Democrats should get to choose their candidate..
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:48 AM
May 2016

I don't care how much burnie & jane whine about it. If BS cares so much about Indies he should have ran as one.

He wins the caucuses but you don't see them whining about how they disenfranchise people.

DLCWIdem

(1,580 posts)
26. not sure about this but
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:45 PM
May 2016

I am registered in WI but not as a democrat. Definitely democrat leaning. While I voted early, just the Friday before the primary, I ended up taking my niece to the polls, since I had nagged her to vote. I went in to see what was taking so long and got into a discussion with one of the volunteers. There were voters who were asking if they could vote in both primaries.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
5. Yes yes and yes!
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:16 AM
May 2016

Someone who has put his/her name on the line with the party! Someone who wants to be a "DEMOCRAT"

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
10. Yes, it may have to be a requirement, we do not need or want hostile take over
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:37 AM
May 2016

Of our Democratic party. If we wanted to take positions of another party we could or we could join the party who holds our closest
Views. Ugly is not nice, the oligarchy argument works only if we give into it.

Cha

(297,673 posts)
11. Yeah, especilally when all he does is live to suspend reality, whine, and
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:42 AM
May 2016

set himself up to be so pure when nothing could be further from the truth.

Now he wants to be #burnietheanointedone either by trying to "flip the Super Dels" or #DropoutHillary.. anyway he can subvert the will of the People.

The truly disgusting part about Bernie's contested convention aspirations is how he thinks he's entitled to override the will of POC/women.
https://twitter.com/theonlyadult

Mahalo, BlueMT

Light63

(233 posts)
13. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THIS. MINIMUM 4 YEARS REGISTERED AS A DEMOCRAT.
Sat May 7, 2016, 08:03 AM
May 2016

AND A NO-WAY TO BS AS A VEEP CANDIDATE!!!

FarPoint

(12,443 posts)
17. I totally agree...
Sat May 7, 2016, 09:11 AM
May 2016

Sanders is nothing more than a Hitchhiker, squatter who is most ungrateful.We need a petition!

 

IamMab

(1,359 posts)
21. 5 years sounds good.
Sat May 7, 2016, 09:36 AM
May 2016

Makes them work through at least one presidential election, to demonstrate their commitment and level of support. No support? No commitment? No primary participation.

LiberalFighter

(51,093 posts)
22. This is where you all need to do some work.
Sat May 7, 2016, 09:45 AM
May 2016

Since it happens at DNC Rules & Bylaws meetings and not at the convention it will require grassroots work in your area.

Let your Democratic county chair and other officers know the change is needed. Also, the Chair within your congressional district. It should also include a phone call to the top officers of the state party if you know them. Otherwise, send an email to the others lobbying for it.

The DNC committee consists of the state party chair and vice chair and state DNC members.

We may not be able to totally prevent them from running on the Democratic ticket but at least then they won't be able to use resources of the party.

BlueMTexpat

(15,373 posts)
23. Thanks for the process suggestions.
Sat May 7, 2016, 11:58 AM
May 2016

I know that I will let the county chair and the state chair that I worked with in MD know about this.

I will also be talking to DNC-connected people I know with the Dems Abroad here in Switzerland (ADACH). Those Dems I know here, even those who supported Bernie in the DA Global Primary, are furious right now. I've been a loyal ADACH member for years.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
29. That is a great idea!
Sat May 7, 2016, 04:38 PM
May 2016

The DNC extends an olive branch to Sanders, who has chastised them for decades, and he and his supporters poke them in the eye with it.

liberal N proud

(60,344 posts)
30. Has BS ever declared that he was going to be a Democrat?
Sat May 7, 2016, 05:29 PM
May 2016

Or just that he would campaign for the Democratic nomination?

He has done nothing to indicate that he is a Democrat.

BlueMTexpat

(15,373 posts)
31. His recent actions have shown
Sat May 7, 2016, 06:30 PM
May 2016

beyond any doubt that he put a "D" after his name for one purpose and one purpose only - to run for the Democratic nomination.

Whether he will actually repudiate the party when he doesn't succeed is still up in the air, IMO.

 

eastwestdem

(1,220 posts)
34. I spoke with my Senator in D.C. in February, and she was saying exactly this.
Sat May 7, 2016, 06:56 PM
May 2016

The talk also enlightened me to the fact that the super delegates will not support Sanders, no matter what argument he uses. They are all dedicated, mostly life-long Dems who are very party oriented. Most do not trust Sanders to carry the party mantle.

BlueMTexpat

(15,373 posts)
35. This says it all!
Sat May 7, 2016, 06:59 PM
May 2016
Most do not trust Sanders to carry the party mantle.


Thanks for letting us know that this issue will likely be addressed at a very high level.

Jake2413

(226 posts)
36. I am 69 years old and have been a Democrat all my life
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:16 PM
May 2016

and I'll tell you that Bernie Sanders is more of a Democrat then HRC will ever be.....

BlueMTexpat

(15,373 posts)
37. Buh-bye, Jake.
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:21 PM
May 2016

This is the Hillary Clinton Group. We LIKE Hillary here. You have everywhere else on DU to slur and demean her, but NOT here.

It make take some time for a moderator to get to you (I am not one), but you go straight to my Iggy List.

sheshe2

(83,908 posts)
40. You are posting in The Hillary Group. Jake.
Sat May 7, 2016, 10:49 PM
May 2016

I believe you meant to post your comment in the Bernie Group.

Sorry, your comment is not welcome in our group.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
38. Can we also arrange for a restraining order for Bernie Sanders????
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:27 PM
May 2016

Something like not letting him get closer than a mile from a registered Democrat!

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