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Related: About this forumBernie the Bomber’s Bad Week (Article from the Liberty Union Party)
I found this article from the Liberty union party. It's from 1999 and they bash democrats, but IMO, it is VERY interesting to see their history with him, and the events as they happened back then.
http://www.libertyunionparty.org/?page_id=363
some highlights:
Bernie Sanders Burlington office to protest his support of the NATO
bombing of Yugoslavia and the ongoing war against Iraq. Calling ourselves
the Instant Antiwar Action Group, we decided to bring our outrage at
Bernies escalating hypocrisy directly to his office, an action that resulted
in 15 of us being arrested for trespass.
In August, 1990after the Bush administration enticed Iraq into
invading KuwaitSanders said he wasnt going to let some damn
war cost him the election, according to a staff member who was
present at the time. So Sanders backed the buildup in the Persian Gulf
and dumped on the left anti-imperialist peace movement, singling
out his former allies like Dave Dellinger for public criticism.
Sandoval, an African American faculty member at the University of
Vermont, was amazed that the official party treated her as a nonperson
and Bernie kept outflanking her to her right. She opposed the
Gulf build-up, Bernie supported it. She supported decriminalization
of drug use and Bernie defended the war on drugs, and so on ..
in their Congressional Caucus. Reciprocally, Bernie has become an
ardent imperialist. Sanders endorsed Clinton in 1992 and 1996. In
1992 he described Clinton as the lesser of evils, (a justification
he used to denounce when he was what the local press called an
avowed socialist). By 1996 he gave Clinton an unqualified
endorsement. He has been a consistent Friend of Bills from
since 1992. One student I know worked on the Clinton Campaign
in 1996 and all across Vermont, Bernie was on the stage with
the rest of the Vermont Democratic Party Leadership, while the
unauthorized Democratic candidate for his Congressional seat was
kept out in the audience.
Iraqi body count has now passed 1.5 million. Just as he has supported
every bombing of Iraq since 1992. When Clinton sent military
units to Kuwait and Saudi Arabia in October, 1994 because Iraq
moved troops inside Iraq closer to the Kuwait border (apparently
about 100 miles away), Bernie supported this because we cannot
tolerate aggression.
of Vermonts nuclear waste near Sierra Blanca, Texas, a low income
border community with a mostly Latino population that is overwhelmingly
opposed to the dump project. Environmental racism and classism
seem not to bother him.
press why he was the only member of Vermont s three member
Congressional delegation who had no person of color on his staff.
Bernie responded that were hiring the most qualified people
we can.
Cha
(297,325 posts)of Vermonts nuclear waste near Sierra Blanca, Texas, a low income
border community with a mostly Latino population that is overwhelmingly
opposed to the dump project. Environmental racism and classism
seem not to bother him.
Sandoval, an African American faculty member at the University of
Vermont, was amazed that the official party treated her as a nonperson
and Bernie kept outflanking her to her right. She opposed the
Gulf build-up, Bernie supported it. She supported decriminalization
of drug use and Bernie defended the war on drugs, and so on ..
pandr32
(11,594 posts)A little coffee chortling there
laughing.
burnie as in bridges..
Have a great day & Aloha, pandr
And ditto for the great day!
Back to packing up my house...unpacking in Hawaii will be much more pleasant
Cha
(297,325 posts)it will be so pleasant to do the unpacking.
Get back to packing!
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)livetohike
(22,147 posts)The Progressive darling isn't so pure.
Koinos
(2,792 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)who Sanders really is!
liberal N proud
(60,338 posts)pandr32
(11,594 posts)He seems to do whatever he thinks he will benefit from personally--a self-righteous, cranky, opportunist.
George II
(67,782 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)I guess they don't see him as a threat They see him as someone who will be forgotten in a few months. Not worth the time and effort to investigate (Lucky for him).
But I wish, how I wish Millennials would finally see how they were manipulated and used... in a word, conned by this man
George II
(67,782 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)hypocritical policy stances, callously taken to advance his political career.
What a false, fabricating, fishy baggage he is.
And, they have the nerve to criticize Hillary, with a straight face, for "evolving" on the issues.
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)Their platform sounds very much like Sanders' and yet they describe him as an imperialist. This should be posted on GD-P just to get the Burners' take on it.
puffy socks
(1,473 posts)Oh that's easy.
The usual steps they take in examining Bernie's past negatives...
Ignore it,
Laugh it off
Deny it
Blame Hillary and/or the DNC for a conspiracy.
sarae
(3,284 posts)thank for posting it!
After I read it, I was looking around on that website and found this:
Open Letter to Bernie Sanders by Ralph Nader dated March 6, 2014
An excerpt (I bolded certain parts):
Your staff dutifully takes my messages, forwards them to you and you do not call back. Never.
During your famous marathon address on the Senate floor in 2010, I called to congratulate you
and suggest that your cogent arguments be reproduced in a small book. Your staff took the
message to you. No return call.
and further on:
progressive force within the Senate (eg. Senator Sherrod Brown, Senator Elizabeth Warren, etc.).
You surely understand that without internal and external networking, there are no strategies to
deploy, beyond speechifying, putting forward amendments that go nowhere and an occasional
hearing where you incisively question witnesses.
You do communicate in one way repeatedly, intensely, and expressing alarm. Along
with others deemed to be on the right mailing lists, I receive many of your fundraising letters to
help Bernie get re-elected. Your letters are full of warnings about the right-wing, corporate
interests out to defeat you a shoo-in for re-election. Quick send a check to ward off the Huns.
In the two years before your election, the letters flow with predictable regularity, recounting your
record and the perils confronting your election. Once you are comfortably and predictably reelected,
Bernie returns to the Lone Ranger mode.
you can read the whole thing here:http://images.politico.com/global/2014/03/06/2014_-_3_6_-_letter_to_bernie_sanders.html
radical noodle
(8,003 posts)Just what we've been saying all along. His supporters will now throw everyone under the bus.
Thanks to lunamagica and sarae!
Koinos
(2,792 posts)Last edited Thu May 12, 2016, 04:38 PM - Edit history (1)
Thanks for finding it!
It almost sounds like he's describing Bernie during this campaign...especially in regards to the fund-raising.
Koinos
(2,792 posts)In fact, they are beginning to doubt that he has any benefit.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)to deploy, beyond speechifying, putting forward amendments that go nowhere and an occasional
hearing where you incisively question witnesses.
That's a perfect description of Sanders, his campaign and career
That's him, in a nutshell. Hillary could have attacked him on so many things, but she didn't he's lucky!
caquillo
(521 posts)"Sanders was repeatedly unresponsive to questions put to him. He evasiveness and arrogance did not serve him well. In the end, only a few people defended him.Whatever else Sanders gets for his joining the other side in the global struggle forsocial justicehe has lost the left and the peace movement here is Vermont. Maybe in the next election he will finally have to run officially as the Democrat he has been for the last 9 years! And then the people of Vermont will be free to build the anti-capitalist political movement and party that Sanders has worked so hard to block for more than a decade."
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)Really, this is left of the solar system and throws everyone under the bus. Dont say I didnt warn you. And don't boot me.
For me its just light reading LOL. Im a strange biscuit
love ya all, mostly
JULY 21, 2015
Bernie Out of the Closet: Sanders Longstanding Deal with the Democrats
by PAUL STREET
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/07/21/bernie-out-of-the-closet-sanders-longstanding-deal-with-the-democrats/
Its all very different than the story Sanders tells campus town progressives on the campaign trail. According to that narrative, he has joined with the Democrats only this year and because of his pragmatic calculation that third party candidates cannot succeed under the U.S. party and electoral system. In reality, however, the Democrats have been Sanders closet party (Miller) for the last fifteen years. Hes really just coming out of the closet now for the presidential race, in a Clinton-welcomed effort to help give the Democrats a much-needed fake-populist makeover for the 2016 elections. The great Socialist Party presidential candidate Eugene Debs (whose poster hangs in Sanders Senate office) would not be impressed.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)It really highlights his hypocrisy and dishonesty.
invading KuwaitSanders said he wasnt going to let some damn
war cost him the election, according to a staff member who was
present at the time. So Sanders backed the buildup in the Persian Gulf
and dumped on the left anti-imperialist peace movement, singling
out his former allies like Dave Dellinger for public criticism.
So tell me again how wrong Hillary was about the Iraq war. She was, and has admitted it, but his record on war turns out to be not so damn pure. And unlike him, Hillary didn't vote for Bush's misadventure so it wouldn't cost her an election.