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DeepModem Mom

(38,402 posts)
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 05:57 PM Jul 2015

Revealing, and somewhat disturbing: Hillary Clinton Draws Scrappy Determination From a Tough, Combative Father

"As a little girl, if Hillary Rodham forgot to screw the cap back on the toothpaste, her father would toss the tube out the bathroom window. She’d scurry around in the snow-covered evergreen bushes outside their suburban Chicago home to find it and return inside to brush her teeth, reminded, once again, of one of Hugh E. Rodham’s many rules.

When she lagged behind in Miss Metzger’s fourth-grade math class, Mr. Rodham would wake his daughter at dawn to grill her on multiplication tables. When she brought home an A, he would sneer: 'You must go to a pretty easy school.'

Mrs. Clinton has made the struggles of her mother, Dorothy Rodham, a central part of her 2016 campaign’s message, and has repeatedly described Mrs. Rodham’s life story to crowds around the country. But her father, whom Mrs. Clinton rarely talks about publicly, exerted an equally powerful, if sometimes bruising, influence on the woman who wants to become the first female president.

The brusque son of an English immigrant and a coal miner’s daughter in Scranton, Pa., Mr. Rodham, for most of his life, harbored prejudices against blacks, Catholics and anyone else not like him. He hurled biting sarcasm at his wife and only daughter and spanked, at times excessively, his three children to keep them in line, according to interviews with friends and a review of documents, Mrs. Clinton’s writings and former President Bill Clinton’s memoir."

http://t.co/LxfS5ft51H via NYTimes

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Revealing, and somewhat disturbing: Hillary Clinton Draws Scrappy Determination From a Tough, Combative Father (Original Post) DeepModem Mom Jul 2015 OP
Why is it disturbing? DURHAM D Jul 2015 #1
The description of the father's treatment of his children and Hillary's Mom... DeepModem Mom Jul 2015 #3
I have thought with her father naming her Hillary he must have realized the mointains she would have Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #2
I believe Edmund Hillary climbed Mt. Everest after she was born. nt Herman4747 Jul 2015 #6
He climbed his first mountain in 1939 Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #7
I relate.. sounds a lot like my father. :( Not fun. Cha Jul 2015 #4
I think before reading this article,it had never occured to sufrommich Jul 2015 #5
Same! And she has increasingly talked in more detail about her mother. nt DeepModem Mom Jul 2015 #8
Her father sounds like a milder version of my father. Control-Z Jul 2015 #9
Yes to everything you said. sufrommich Jul 2015 #10
Thank you for the hug. Control-Z Jul 2015 #11
No,I don't know this from experience. I have empathy with sufrommich Jul 2015 #12
That makes you a truly outstanding human. Control-Z Jul 2015 #13

DeepModem Mom

(38,402 posts)
3. The description of the father's treatment of his children and Hillary's Mom...
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 06:25 PM
Jul 2015

both physically and verbally, I think would be considered today somewhere on the abusive scale. It disturbs me that Hillary was treated in that way as a child. Clearly, she overcame!

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
2. I have thought with her father naming her Hillary he must have realized the mointains she would have
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 06:14 PM
Jul 2015

To climb. She has faced climbing many mountains and still climbing. It was somewhat easier by the time she hung out her shingle but time has made it easier on women after her. Still she advocated for issues which wasn't as popular and still has the passion to pursue them further. She is strong, smart and experienced.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
5. I think before reading this article,it had never occured to
Sun Jul 19, 2015, 09:47 PM
Jul 2015

me that she never mentions her dad.It sounds like there's good reason for that.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
9. Her father sounds like a milder version of my father.
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 12:29 PM
Jul 2015

Not just the cap on the toothpaste but squeezing from anywhere but the bottom of the tube got me knocked across the room. A report card with all As but 1 B+ got me a beating. I was always in trouble, it seemed. Couldn't seem to do things right or good enough.

I suddenly have a much better understanding of who, and why, Hillary is. The perfectionist. Always going the extra mile. I'm so glad she had her mother's support for so many years.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
11. Thank you for the hug.
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 12:57 PM
Jul 2015

I hope you don't know this from your own experience. Though, I'm afraid you probably do.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
12. No,I don't know this from experience. I have empathy with
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 01:00 PM
Jul 2015

anyone who ever felt "not good enough" and especially with people who had that poison reinforced by people who are supposed to care for them.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
13. That makes you a truly outstanding human.
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 01:21 PM
Jul 2015

I really appreciate your ability and willingness to be so empathetic.

The world needs more like you.

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