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StayFrosty

(237 posts)
Sat May 14, 2016, 04:44 AM May 2016

You knew it was going to be a long primary season

When family members who previously were uninterested in politics all of a sudden started "feeling the bern" and started flooding your Facebook feed with Hillary smear jobs from Breitbart and Judicial Watch.

I'm so fucking ready for this primary to be over....I thought 2008 was bad but this is on a whole other level.

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SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
3. I'm lucky that everyone I know supports Hillary except one long-time political friend who got a job
Sat May 14, 2016, 09:47 AM
May 2016

With the Sanders campaign. To quote the Hillary-haters, you could say she was bought and sold.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
4. It's not really a long primary season. I guess that honor goes to Hillary in 2008. That said, she
Sat May 14, 2016, 10:35 AM
May 2016

was neck-and-neck with Senator Obama, so it was natural - and justified - that she stay in until the last primary election. In fact, in the end, she won the popular vote but lost on the delegate-count.

Sanders can't boast an equal justification. He's behind on the popular vote, behind on the pledged-dels, and behind on the super-dels.

There is absolutely NO reason for him to remain in the primary race while attacking Hillary Clinton as opposed to attacking Trump. None. Well...none that should matter if he were still interested in winning the Democratic Party primary - which he isn't since I'm guessing he's staying in just to get as many millions of dollars as possible into his coffers, and for no other reason. I'm certain someone on his campaign knows how to do math and have seen that there's no pathway to the nomination. So staying in only helps Trump. This is unforgivable.

George II

(67,782 posts)
6. In 2008 there was never a difference of more than about 100 pledged delegates from January...
Sat May 14, 2016, 10:49 AM
May 2016

...through June, and the lead flipped back and forth a couple of times.

This year, after the first caucus Clinton was ahead by 2 delegates, after the second state, NH, voted Sanders was ahead by 4 delegates. After that Clinton slowly increased her lead week after week. After Super Tuesday I (March 1), she had a lead of 191 delegates, and it's never been closer.

Right now her lead is 280 delegates.

There is absolutely NO comparison between 2008 and 2016.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
8. She had a lead in the popular vote by 272,809 votes. Pledged-dels flipped back and forth, yes, and
Sat May 14, 2016, 11:17 AM
May 2016

Senator Obama kept getting ahead, more and more, but she maintained her lead in the popular vote totals in the end. But popular votes don't count in our primary elections. Delegates do, and Senator Obama won by 312 1/2 total.

As I've explained in my post, Hillary Clinton was justified in staying in until the end. BS is not because he's so far behind in all categories already.

grossproffit

(5,591 posts)
5. We're lucky. This is the first election cycle that all of our friends & family are pro Hillary.
Sat May 14, 2016, 10:46 AM
May 2016

Democrats, Independents & Republicans.

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