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It is so nice to see that there are still a few Democrats on the DU. (Original Post) teamster633 May 2016 OP
^ Dem LuvLoogie May 2016 #1
Die-hard Democrat. Aristus May 2016 #2
I'm here! mcar May 2016 #3
Glad you're still here, teamster633. Us Democrats need to stay together! SunSeeker May 2016 #4
I am here! sheshe2 May 2016 #5
Ya..DU been over runned for years by the extreme left wing extremists beachbumbob May 2016 #6
Plus, the co-opting of left wing/liberal/progressive Il_Coniglietto May 2016 #11
This is pretty much reality. Smart voters know it. realmirage May 2016 #12
As Bismarck said: teamster633 May 2016 #16
I don't think they're the "extreme left." athena May 2016 #15
The radical left zealots I have encountered may seem members of the far right zealot club CajunBlazer May 2016 #17
I don't know. athena May 2016 #23
The Left. Il_Coniglietto May 2016 #25
Thank you! athena May 2016 #26
I agree. sarae May 2016 #48
And don't forget, a lot of people are in deep lurkdom. planetc May 2016 #7
Lots and lots of us Cary May 2016 #8
I think many of us have about given up on GD-P for a while. It's really crazy over there Arkansas Granny May 2016 #9
If it was just GD-P I could understand it, teamster633 May 2016 #19
Anti-Dem vipers have infected ALL forums with their venom, in one poisonous OP after another. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #39
There are a lot of them. I think the constant drumbeat of nonsense has... TwilightZone May 2016 #10
Dyed in the wool Dem here. savalez May 2016 #13
"Once it's all over, we're going to clamp down pretty hard on the BS." -Skinner Rose Siding May 2016 #14
Good to Know!! Lil Missy May 2016 #21
ucrdem is so Cool! Mahalo for that Rose~ Let the Voting End! Cha May 2016 #34
"Once it's all over, we're going to clamp down pretty hard on the BS." Her Sister May 2016 #41
ROFL! Cha May 2016 #42
ahhhhhhh your emoji! Her Sister May 2016 #44
I know.. it's Cha May 2016 #45
You are certainly not alone! CajunBlazer May 2016 #18
HiYa! Welcome! fleabiscuit May 2016 #20
HRC Group - best room in the house. eom UtahLib May 2016 #22
.. Cha May 2016 #33
Hiya! DemonGoddess May 2016 #24
Right here, teamster633. Proud Democrat who hopes you won't go anywhere. Glorfindel May 2016 #27
Glad you found us! BootinUp May 2016 #28
I've tried to stay neutral, liking both candidates at first tandot May 2016 #29
Welcome, tandot and so glad you're all Voting for Hillary~ Cha May 2016 #32
Wow. So that was a powerful event. Maru Kitteh May 2016 #37
I was neutral to the extent that there was never any question... teamster633 May 2016 #49
True-blue Dem here! eom BlueCaliDem May 2016 #30
teamster! We're here.. Welcome to Hillary's Group! How the heck did you find Cha May 2016 #31
Just dumb luck I guess. teamster633 May 2016 #35
It was meant to be! I know, right? Cha May 2016 #38
DEMOCRAT all my LIFE! Hell to the yes. Maru Kitteh May 2016 #36
New to DU, but definitely liberal! Pika78 May 2016 #40
Left Dem all my adult life! Her Sister May 2016 #43
Some of us refuse to give up liberal N proud May 2016 #46
Lifelong Democrat greatauntoftriplets May 2016 #47
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
6. Ya..DU been over runned for years by the extreme left wing extremists
Tue May 24, 2016, 07:31 PM
May 2016

and their ideological purity bs...We seen the mini hannities...murdochs all reciting the same right wing drivel...

Il_Coniglietto

(373 posts)
11. Plus, the co-opting of left wing/liberal/progressive
Tue May 24, 2016, 07:55 PM
May 2016

by certain individuals is so annoying! Some of us are very left wing, we just understand that our political system as designed by the founding fathers is one of checks and balances. It's incredibly difficult to get majorities that can enact great change all at once so you better learn how to win smaller battles that build on each other. A smart progressive wouldn't cut off their nose to spite their face.

athena

(4,187 posts)
15. I don't think they're the "extreme left."
Tue May 24, 2016, 08:18 PM
May 2016

I'm further left than anyone I know out there in the real world, and I am for Hillary. (And I live, and have always lived, in very liberal areas and have moved in very liberal circles.)

Being for Bernie does not make a person "extreme left". On the contrary, it suggests many other things, most of which are pretty far right. Unfortunately, I can't spell them out, or this post might get hidden.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
17. The radical left zealots I have encountered may seem members of the far right zealot club
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:02 PM
May 2016

Because they are very much the same. The political science Horseshoe Theory explains this phenomenon aptly. According to this widely held theory, the political spectrum should not be viewed as straight line with the the radical left near one extreme and the radical right near the other. Instead the political continuum should be viewed as being horseshoe shaped with the radical left and and radical right being closer together than they are to moderates.

This doesn't describe what they believe, but rather how they are very similar in their outlooks and actions.

Typical characteristics of both the radical right and the radical left:

- A sense that they are ideologically pure.

- A belief that they are superior in their thought process (though have laid claim to a logical thought in years.)

- A view that anyone who doesn't share their beliefs is at best "misguided" or "uninformed"

- A tendency on the left to call anyone more moderate than themselves a conservative or worse, and a tendency on the right to call anyone more moderate than themselves a liberal or worse.

- A tendency to try to silence those with whom they disagree.

- A sense of paranoia - quick to believe in conspiracy theories when their political moves go sour - after all it couldn't possibly by their fault or their candidates fault - its because the "establishment" is out to get them.

Yep, those on the radical left can easily be confused with the those radical right because they act so much alike.

athena

(4,187 posts)
23. I don't know.
Tue May 24, 2016, 10:36 PM
May 2016

I just don't want to think that misogyny and racism are leftist ideals. The only way to make sense of it all is to conclude that those who claim they are the radical left are not, in fact, on the left.

Perhaps those who make up the "radical right" are not really that far right, either? One can only hope.

Seriously, though: if being on the left means caring only about economic "equality" for white men, then what are people like me, who believe that racial and gender equality are just as important as economic equality, to call ourselves?

ETA: I have never considered myself a "moderate" or a "centrist", and I don't want to allow a bunch of Bernie supporters to redefine what being a leftist means.

Il_Coniglietto

(373 posts)
25. The Left.
Tue May 24, 2016, 10:57 PM
May 2016

The others are more economic populists. Economic inequality demands a revolution!!!!!!!!! But fighting against inequality of the sexes, races, ethnic groups, religions, sexual orientations, gender identities, physical/mental abilities, etc. is playing the "______" card

Don't let them define who we are. Damnit, we are the REAL Left! It doesn't matter if it benefits us personally or not. Fighting oppression anywhere and everywhere...it's simply the right thing to do.

athena

(4,187 posts)
26. Thank you!
Tue May 24, 2016, 11:01 PM
May 2016


I agree. I am not going to stop calling myself a leftist just because a bunch of Bernie supporters think they have the authority to define what "the left" is.

sarae

(3,284 posts)
48. I agree.
Wed May 25, 2016, 09:01 AM
May 2016

I've always considered myself far left. I considered Bernie as a candidate when this started, because I liked his ideas. But the things that eventually turned me off to his campaign were decidedly unprogressive.

I was turned off by hearing that none of the top 10 people on his campaign were women, by his tone-deaf reaction to losing Southern states, by his comment about pro-choice issues not being "what really matters", by the way I saw his campaign dismiss the idea of the first woman president as not very ground-breaking...and this is just a few of the things that I didn't like. So it really pisses me off when people try to claim that HRC supporters are the conservative Republican ones. It seems incredibly hypocritical to claim you're progressive when you consistently put women and minorities second.

Arkansas Granny

(31,518 posts)
9. I think many of us have about given up on GD-P for a while. It's really crazy over there
Tue May 24, 2016, 07:46 PM
May 2016

right now. The posters making the most noise will have to settle down once Hillary clinches the nomination. The things they're getting away with now won't be tolerated.

teamster633

(2,029 posts)
19. If it was just GD-P I could understand it,
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:17 PM
May 2016

...but GD is full of BS too. Once in awhile the really egregious posts get locked, but most of them are left standing. I gave up alerting on them because it has become an exercise in futility.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
39. Anti-Dem vipers have infected ALL forums with their venom, in one poisonous OP after another.
Wed May 25, 2016, 03:08 AM
May 2016

And, the jury system is FUBAR, having been hijacked by a few fanatics.

The HRC Group is the only safe haven for real Dems until the end of the primary process.

But, take courage. Only two weeks to go!

Welcome to your philosophical home! You are among friends.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
10. There are a lot of them. I think the constant drumbeat of nonsense has...
Tue May 24, 2016, 07:48 PM
May 2016

just caused many of them to go into hiding. Understandably.

Which, of course, was the intended result of the drumbeat of nonsense, which is sad.

Assuming the hammer falls after June 7th or June 14th or whenever, I suspect a lot of them will starting peeking out again. This place might actually be halfway pleasant again once we can focus on the real task at hand, beating Trump and improving D/R ratios in Congress.

Cha

(297,295 posts)
34. ucrdem is so Cool! Mahalo for that Rose~ Let the Voting End!
Wed May 25, 2016, 12:27 AM
May 2016


http://www.democraticunderground.com/125910422

Skinner
Once it's all over, we're going to clamp down pretty hard on the BS.
 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
41. "Once it's all over, we're going to clamp down pretty hard on the BS."
Wed May 25, 2016, 08:40 AM
May 2016
Skinner
Once it's all over, we're going to clamp down pretty hard on the BS.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/125910422

HAHA!!

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Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
44. ahhhhhhh your emoji!
Wed May 25, 2016, 08:44 AM
May 2016

gonna kill me! so cute!!!! Wanna grab it and squeeze the little emoji!!! LOL!!!!

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
18. You are certainly not alone!
Tue May 24, 2016, 09:09 PM
May 2016

With the end being near, Hillary supporters are coming out and confronting the Sanders fans on GD-P and the Sanders fans don't quite know what to make of their opponents reappearance. It is no longer the exclusive Sanders echo chamber that it once was.

In a couple of weeks real Democrats will take back that territory for good, and the Sanders fans can either jump on the Hillary band wagon, keep their thoughts to themselves, or be banned.

BootinUp

(47,165 posts)
28. Glad you found us!
Tue May 24, 2016, 11:07 PM
May 2016

Its rough, but some of us are not going to be run off. Expect it to be much more sane after the Primary.

tandot

(6,671 posts)
29. I've tried to stay neutral, liking both candidates at first
Tue May 24, 2016, 11:09 PM
May 2016

Things changed after the Nevada Convention and all those crazy conspiracy theories ... the whole family is voting for Clinton now

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
37. Wow. So that was a powerful event.
Wed May 25, 2016, 12:49 AM
May 2016

It's hard to gauge these things as we all have degrees of confirmation bias, no matter how hard we fight against it.

I'm glad that others understood how unsavory that whole business was.

Welcome.

teamster633

(2,029 posts)
49. I was neutral to the extent that there was never any question...
Wed May 25, 2016, 09:53 AM
May 2016

...as to whether I would vote for the candidate that my party chose. Full disclosure here, I was one of the first in the country to vote for Bernie. Despite having a herniated lumbar disk with excruciating sciatica, I limped into my polling place in NH and pulled the lever for the Senator from our sister state before noon on primary day. I can't really put my finger on when it was that his whole campaign began to put me off, but it didn't take long. I guess as a lapsed Catholic, I'm always suspicious of those "holier than thou" types.

Cha

(297,295 posts)
31. teamster! We're here.. Welcome to Hillary's Group! How the heck did you find
Wed May 25, 2016, 12:16 AM
May 2016

us in our little but powerful corner of the world?

teamster633

(2,029 posts)
35. Just dumb luck I guess.
Wed May 25, 2016, 12:33 AM
May 2016

Who would have thought that it would be so hard to find a place on this site that supports Democrats?

Pika78

(55 posts)
40. New to DU, but definitely liberal!
Wed May 25, 2016, 07:46 AM
May 2016

And if y'all want a statistical confirmation of where your political views lie on the full spectrum, try this quiz, it's actually kinda fun: http://www.people-press.org/quiz/political-typology/

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