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ericson00

(2,707 posts)
Wed May 25, 2016, 12:59 AM May 2016

Help Stop Cornel West from Hijacking the Dem Party

I know you all heard about Sanders getting to put people on the platform committee. Here's info on one of them, Cornel West:

http://thedailybanter.com/2016/05/cornel-west-democratic-platform/
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/05/bernie-sanders-cornel-west-and-obama-hating.html
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/flashback-cornel-west-lauded-trump-as-authentic-human-being/article/2592105?custom_click=rss

Calling Obama an n-word, a war criminal, a "global" George Zimmerman?
He also supports BDS, which Hillary strongly opposes.

This shit has no place in the Democratic Party. Yesterday, I left messages at the DSCC, DCCC, DNC, and a few other orgs expressing my displeasure. I've also tweeted a bunch of people. I was hoping you all could join me and get people to join me as well. Hateful shit, and the extreme-left are not what the Democratic Party of Hillary Clinton is about.
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Help Stop Cornel West from Hijacking the Dem Party (Original Post) ericson00 May 2016 OP
Fanaticism is not healthy or productive no matter where it comes from. Maru Kitteh May 2016 #1
well said...if Hillary loses in November and the Sanders wing takes the party over, ericson00 May 2016 #5
Good jpmonk91 May 2016 #6
NO you're not doing anything remotely close to that.. because Hillary is going to be Madam Cha May 2016 #9
Hillary will not lose. fun n serious May 2016 #11
The Sanders' wing will not take over the party no matter what happens. LiberalFighter May 2016 #29
Sorry, you got your hide for speaking the truth, Maru~ Cha May 2016 #10
What you wrote is 100% unvarnished TRUTH!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2016 #17
Mahalo for this, ericson.. I'm going to do it, too.. Cha May 2016 #2
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #3
I would perfer a person on the committee which displays progressive ideas rather than Thinkingabout May 2016 #4
He is not taking the party anywhere liberals would want to go. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #7
He's going to get up there and rail for a bit BainsBane May 2016 #8
West isn't going to hijack the party, he'll just rant and rave and then people will ignore him SharonClark May 2016 #12
Outrageous!!! nt LAS14 May 2016 #13
I don't know much about this man, but the little I have seen of him wisteria May 2016 #14
Every pick he made was a deliberate slam against Hillary LisaM May 2016 #16
Keith's definitely the exception TwilightZone May 2016 #20
That made me laugh. LisaM May 2016 #22
I somehow forgot that he did that. TwilightZone May 2016 #23
lol Cha May 2016 #25
Oh, ha ha LisaM May 2016 #30
Good article about Cornel West here..... LisaM May 2016 #18
I am really dismayed by Sanders' choice of Cornel West MBS May 2016 #15
I don't think it is unsurprising. LisaM May 2016 #19
that's what I mean. MBS May 2016 #21
Just ignore him and roll right over him on the platform committee bluestateguy May 2016 #24
the CLintons and their THrid Way made a coup of the Party in the 1990s idic5 May 2016 #26
This is the Hillary Group leftofcool May 2016 #27
he should more take it to the Green Party ericson00 May 2016 #28
Party's been hijaacked already - by the corporatist CLintons idic5 May 2016 #31

Maru Kitteh

(28,341 posts)
1. Fanaticism is not healthy or productive no matter where it comes from.
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:04 AM
May 2016

And fuck ANYONE low enough to call the President such a hateful, nasty word. If he hates our party so much, he can step off and get lost. He has no place here.

 

ericson00

(2,707 posts)
5. well said...if Hillary loses in November and the Sanders wing takes the party over,
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:26 AM
May 2016

I'm getting the fuck out.

I think, quite frankly, thats what a lot of them want. They want a far-left Socialist European party or an anti-Semitic (I mean 'anti-Zionist') British Labour Party like thing.

Cha

(297,378 posts)
9. NO you're not doing anything remotely close to that.. because Hillary is going to be Madam
Wed May 25, 2016, 02:58 AM
May 2016

POTUS.

You need to keep up.

LiberalFighter

(50,983 posts)
29. The Sanders' wing will not take over the party no matter what happens.
Wed May 25, 2016, 04:43 PM
May 2016

The structure of the DNC makes that very difficult.

Response to ericson00 (Original post)

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
4. I would perfer a person on the committee which displays progressive ideas rather than
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:20 AM
May 2016

Ideas aimed against the DNC.

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
8. He's going to get up there and rail for a bit
Wed May 25, 2016, 02:50 AM
May 2016

But it amounts to nothing. The National convention has become about theater. I don't know how much influence the platform committee actually has. If anything, West's presence serves as a stark reminder of why Bernie couldn't attract the black vote. I don't know if he has never figured out how much most black people dislike West, or if he just doesn't care.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
12. West isn't going to hijack the party, he'll just rant and rave and then people will ignore him
Wed May 25, 2016, 08:29 AM
May 2016

as they usually do.

 

wisteria

(19,581 posts)
14. I don't know much about this man, but the little I have seen of him
Wed May 25, 2016, 02:00 PM
May 2016

he has been unreasonably and indignant. And, he purposely comes across as intimidating.

So this is a Bernie pick? I think he is just playing games with our Dem Party. I loath the day Sander's choose to run as a Democrat.

LisaM

(27,815 posts)
16. Every pick he made was a deliberate slam against Hillary
Wed May 25, 2016, 02:13 PM
May 2016

or Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Every single one of them, with the possible exception of Keith Ellison.

TwilightZone

(25,472 posts)
20. Keith's definitely the exception
Wed May 25, 2016, 02:37 PM
May 2016

He's a good guy and a solid Dem. Why Sanders would therefore want him on the committee is anyone's guess.

TwilightZone

(25,472 posts)
23. I somehow forgot that he did that.
Wed May 25, 2016, 04:00 PM
May 2016

It must have gotten lost in the flood of other Sanders endorsements.

LisaM

(27,815 posts)
18. Good article about Cornel West here.....
Wed May 25, 2016, 02:21 PM
May 2016
https://newrepublic.com/article/121550/cornel-wests-rise-fall-our-most-exciting-black-scholar-ghost

Funny, in 2008, I watched the State of the Black Union that Dyson refers to here. Hillary was the only candidate who attended, and IIRC, Cornel West was there, raking her and Tavis Smiley over the coals for standing in Obama's way.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
15. I am really dismayed by Sanders' choice of Cornel West
Wed May 25, 2016, 02:06 PM
May 2016

Aside from philosophical differences, which are many, he lost me permanently with his trashing of President Obama.



He will not be a thoughtful contributor to Democratic Party politics, to say the least.
Bad choice, Bernie. Unsurprising, but still - a really bad and unhelpful choice.

LisaM

(27,815 posts)
19. I don't think it is unsurprising.
Wed May 25, 2016, 02:22 PM
May 2016

As the campaign season rolls along, I'm seeing Bernie Sanders increasingly exposed as an angry and vindictive person.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
21. that's what I mean.
Wed May 25, 2016, 02:42 PM
May 2016

It's what I (sadly) expected.
I agree that Bernie is showing himself to be angry and vindictive person. . . and destructive to the interests of the Democratic Party.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
24. Just ignore him and roll right over him on the platform committee
Wed May 25, 2016, 04:06 PM
May 2016

He'll be outvoted on the committee. He is Bernie's pick. A curious pick, to be sure, but that's his choice. Likewise, I get mad when the Sanders people bitch and complain about Hillary's picks.

On the committee votes he'll be defeated in vote after vote.

 

idic5

(5 posts)
26. the CLintons and their THrid Way made a coup of the Party in the 1990s
Wed May 25, 2016, 04:24 PM
May 2016

and took the Democratic party, the party of the people ( see 'Demos'), off its rails to become the party of the corporate elite. Incredibly, the one who would be the STANDARD BEARER of the DEMOCRATIC party, this same Clintons other half, has supported an unseemly number of policies, approaches, and initiatives of the OPPOSITION party , the REPUBLICANS.

No need to go down the rabbit hole of 'progressive ' not progressive' CLinton is a fricking REPUBLICAN! And this is becially been the options to the american people since the Clinton Coup : moderate corporate Republican or Radical Insurgency, as Chomksy called the modern Republicans. Ans the people lose in this 'choice'.

This aint bashing her -- this is her record.

http://imgur.com/VzAkCQC

It is plain nonsensical to support one for the standard bearer position who aligns so much w/ the opposition, the 'enemy'. It would take our nation even further away from its ideals set down in the defacto mission stmt .. which stmt more closely aligns with traditional democratic progressive values since FDR - ie, Bernie Sanders' values of 'social democracy'.

'We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.'


some , but not all of her kinship with Republican policies, approaches, and initiatives....

as S of S:
*supporting the GOP's H-1b visa policy that allows in cheap foreign labor in IT industry
*supporting the GOP's tarsands projects (KXL, enbridge)
*supporting the GOP's unregulated fracking continuing the so called Cheney - Halliburton loophole that allows fracking to be exempt from Clean Water Act regs
*supporting the GOP's TPP initiative a one percenter's indulgence which was started by one Ger W Bush
*in her Libya military adventure, she actually exceeded the GOP / M I C
*supported GOP /corporate H-1b policy

as senator
*voting for the GOP's Iraq military option in '02-03
*voting for the GOP's Patriot Act and its renewal - '01
*voting for the GOP's Bankruptcy Reform Act '01 ( so after yo lose your job from bad 'free trade' policies, this person has the GALL to make it MORE difficult for the everyday working person to get some fresh start relief)

As first lady who was alway aligned thisclose to Bill
*supported the GOP anti gay rights DOMA bill
*supported the GOP 's desire to eliminate Glass Steagal regulations
*supported GOP /corporate H-1b policy , NAFTA and other 'free trade agreements'

 

ericson00

(2,707 posts)
28. he should more take it to the Green Party
Wed May 25, 2016, 04:41 PM
May 2016

or the fringe wing of American politics, where it belongs.

 

idic5

(5 posts)
31. Party's been hijaacked already - by the corporatist CLintons
Wed May 25, 2016, 05:09 PM
May 2016

just came across and is exhibit A of the subject line thesis

“…I’ve spent the last day in Washington, where Democrats are quietly gearing up to negotiate a 'tax amnesty' for American-based global corporations that have parked some $2.1 trillion in untaxed profits abroad (mostly in tax havens) to avoid paying their U.S. taxes.

"The U.S. corporate tax rate is 35 percent, but Obama is ready to offer 14 percent if they’ll bring the profits home; Republicans want 10 percent; some Democratic senators are willing to go even lower (Barbara Boxer is teaming up with Rand Paul to offer 6.5 percent).

"Corporate lobbyists are swarming over Capitol Hill, suggesting if they don’t get a great deal they might not just keep the profits abroad but even move their corporations abroad (like Pfizer is doing).

"It’s corporate extortion on a giant scale." -- Robert Reich

https://www.facebook.com/RBReich/photos/a.404595876219681.103599.142474049098533/1169833593029235/?type=3&theater

http://theintellectualist.co/robert-reich-democrats-are-quietly-gearing-up-to-negotiate-a-tax-amnesty-for-global-corporations/

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