Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumWhy Bernie's crushing Trump.
Michael Tomasky at the Daily Beast:
I dont think theyd (Republicans) even have to go into his radical past, although they surely would. Michelle Goldberg of Slate has written good pieces on this. He took some very hard-left and plainly anti-American positions. True, they might not matter to anyone under 45, but more than half of all voters are over 45. And then, big-P politics aside, theres all that farkakte nonsense he wrote in The Vermont Freeman in the early 70s about how we should let children touch each others genitals and such. Fine, it was 40-plus years ago but its out there, and its out there.
General election polls dont reflect anything meaningful until nominees are chosen and running mates selectedthat is, July. They especially dont reflect anything meaningful when respondents know very little about one of the candidates theyre being asked about. Superdelegates know this, and its one reason why theyre not going to change. I dont blame Sanders for touting these polls; any politician would. But everyone subjected to hearing him do so is entitled to be in on the joke.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/24/bernie-sanders-is-crushing-donald-trump-head-to-head-and-it-doesn-t-mean-a-thing.html
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/24/bernie-sanders-is-crushing-donald-trump-head-to-head-and-it-doesn-t-mean-a-thing.html
ladym55
(2,577 posts)They didn't do such a good job in the last governor's race--which is why Kasich got a second term so easily. It took the Repubs just a few weeks to expose all the vulnerabilities--all were stupid, but all sunk the entire Democratic ticket.
People need to understand that the Bern has NOT been vetted in any way. He would last maybe three weeks before being totally destroyed by Rove and Co.
TwilightZone
(25,472 posts)It's been a cakewalk to this point. The GOP hasn't touched him hoping he'll pull off a miracle.
pandr32
(11,594 posts)He has been enjoying a cakewalk with the GOP's blessing.
teamster633
(2,029 posts)But they'll give Bernie a pass...how many miracles are required for sainthood? Maybe that would explain his trip to Rome.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)I said, don't you think it's odd that the Republicans call everyone a socialist, but now there's an ACTUAL, self-proclaimed socalist running and they've said NOTHING?
They've been trying to get Sanders the nomination from the start, knowing he would easily be torn apart in the general. Thankfully their plan has not worked.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)cost over ten years and the shouts of free free free. His best reward is not having to go through the GE
Cha
(297,378 posts)BS can tout them till forever.. not going to get him the Nom.
Mahalo, kstewart~
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)In fact, I have heard more Democrats defend Debbie this week than ever before. She went from being universally unpopular to being a victim just doing her job.
Bernie is wasting everybody's time but there is going to be a big party when he finally gets kicked to the curb!
Arkansas Granny
(31,521 posts)Too Easy: How Republicans Would Tear Apart an Unvetted Bernie Sanders in the General Election
http://www.thepeoplesview.net/main/2016/5/19/this-ends-now-the-bernie-sanders-opposition-research-the-media-refuses-to-release
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)...Bernie supporters, being DINOs, don't back Clinton the same way. Remember, these are the same people who abandoned a Democratic state supreme court candidate in Wisconsin, letting a GOP judge get elected instead.
Yes, Bernie never being vetted properly has a lot to do with it, but not everything.
To the jury: this post is my opinion only, and it is my opinion that people who denigrate and deride black voters, who disrespect and dox women, and who endorse violence as a political tool are simply not Democrats.
TwilightZone
(25,472 posts)I've often wondered if some Sanders supporters were voting for Trump in these polls (if nothing else, just out of spite), especially when the same polls asking the same people the same questions showed such a significant gap. Clinton supporters are, for the most part, much more adamant about voting for the nominee in November, regardless.
It's a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy for the Sanders supporters. By influencing the head-to-head polls in a negative way, they can continue to trumpet them (pun intended) as the only thing that should matter anymore.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Yes, Republicans would pounce on that like a cat onto a mouse. Republicans equate socialism (which I don't have a problem with, to a degree) with communism. Two very different concepts, but no matter. We'd see red-baiting in all its glory; Republicans LOVE the '50s. They miss the cold war like jilted lovers.
And socialism is just the start. They'd hit on that nasty, misogynist essay, the tepid record in Congress, not releasing his taxes, and much, much more.