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DeepModem Mom

(38,402 posts)
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 11:44 PM Sep 2015

Terrifying new Survey USA Poll: Trump beats Hillary, Bernie, and Joe Biden (HILLARY GROUP)

Can this be believed? Trump has shown he knows nothing about national security or terrorism, or much of anything except business deals.

He is a textbook case of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. He talks only about himself, brags and boasts constantly. Imagine him in the Oval Office as President (with access to the nuclear codes)!

What are these people polled thinking?

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/252825-poll-trump-beats-hillary-head-to-head via The Hill

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Terrifying new Survey USA Poll: Trump beats Hillary, Bernie, and Joe Biden (HILLARY GROUP) (Original Post) DeepModem Mom Sep 2015 OP
Don't underestimate him. TDale313 Sep 2015 #1
Wow. And re. your good use of the term "low information voters" -- DeepModem Mom Sep 2015 #3
I'm in California... TDale313 Sep 2015 #8
Indeed! DeepModem Mom Sep 2015 #9
Big difference. Herr Gropenfuhrer was married to a Kennedy, she campaigned and vouched for him, BlueCaliDem Sep 2015 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author 840high Sep 2015 #6
A little about Survey USA: The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2015 #2
Oh, that's really good information. Thank you so much! DeepModem Mom Sep 2015 #5
PPP only has Sanders losing ericson00 Sep 2015 #4
Thank you! I looked at PPP at your link. (I sometimes tend to excitability.) n/t DeepModem Mom Sep 2015 #7
I call Bullshite! Cha Sep 2015 #10
LOL! DeepModem Mom Sep 2015 #12
Me, too, Cha! BlueCaliDem Sep 2015 #14
Exactly BlueCali.. it's not the last poll that's going to have the Quack leading EVERYBODY! Cha Sep 2015 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author silenttigersong Sep 2015 #11
Why? Cha Sep 2015 #16
I don't buy it for a minute. Kath1 Sep 2015 #17
If voters in this country are that dumb newfie11 Sep 2015 #18
So true Tommy2Tone Sep 2015 #20
Sadly your right on! newfie11 Sep 2015 #21
I think this survey is bad, but I still take Trump seriously. Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #19
Ring of Fire calls "Hogwash" RussBLib Sep 2015 #22
That poll is a real eye-opener even accounting for Survey-USA's record. stevenleser Sep 2015 #23
He won't be President. He'll hire it done! juajen Sep 2015 #24
Look at the inside numbers. uberblonde Sep 2015 #25
Hard to wrap my head around this idea 6chars Sep 2015 #26

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
1. Don't underestimate him.
Fri Sep 4, 2015, 11:51 PM
Sep 2015

Or the appeal his "screw the establishment" message has. Yeah, he's ridiculous, but we've elected ridiculous presidents before. Don't know if this poll is to be trusted, but there are a lot of frustrated, low information potential voters out there who will buy what he's selling.

DeepModem Mom

(38,402 posts)
3. Wow. And re. your good use of the term "low information voters" --
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 12:06 AM
Sep 2015

I notice that term often on Twitter. But I think most often it's conservatives calling us libs "low information," presumably because we don't watch Fox News!

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
8. I'm in California...
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 12:14 AM
Sep 2015

And watched my supposedly liberal state elect The Governator. Just saying we should all be careful not to take him too lightly. He's dangerous.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
13. Big difference. Herr Gropenfuhrer was married to a Kennedy, she campaigned and vouched for him,
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 12:47 AM
Sep 2015

and he just had a blockbuster hit movie come out. He also said all the right things (won't raise the auto registration fees; will head to Washington D.C. to talk to his "family friend", Bush, and "get out money back!" (Ca has always paid more to the Federal gov't than we get), and he was a mega-mega-film star.

Trump has none of the above going for him.

It's just another skewed poll bought and paid for by people who fear Hillary Clinton's candidacy.

Response to TDale313 (Reply #1)

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
2. A little about Survey USA:
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 12:04 AM
Sep 2015
The difference between SurveyUSA and other telephone polling firms is twofold. First, SurveyUSA does not use live call center employees, but an automated system. Taped questions are asked of the respondent by a professional announcer (usually a local news anchor), and the respondent is invited to press a button on their touch tone telephone or record a message at a prompt designating their selection. Secondly, SurveyUSA uses more concise language, especially for ballot propositions, than competitors. This can lead to diverging results, such as for California Proposition 76, where one version of the SurveyUSA question with a one sentence description, polled significantly differently compared to another version with a three sentence description (which was similar to a version of the question used by other pollsters, which used a five or six sentence question)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SurveyUSA

So, these results might not be especially reliable. Don't panic.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
14. Me, too, Cha!
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 12:49 AM
Sep 2015


Brace yourself for more bought-and-paid-for polls that are conducted by her adversaries who fear her, and who are doing every dirty trick in the book in order to bring her numbers down, just as they had for President Obama.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
15. Exactly BlueCali.. it's not the last poll that's going to have the Quack leading EVERYBODY!
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 01:16 AM
Sep 2015

Just LIKE they did for President Obama!

We've seen this bad movie before.

Response to DeepModem Mom (Original post)

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
17. I don't buy it for a minute.
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 01:31 AM
Sep 2015

Trump is certain to self-destruct. I think he'll say something stupid that will put him out of the running any day now.

When you look at Hillary's experience, record and views, she is clearly the best choice.

newfie11

(8,159 posts)
18. If voters in this country are that dumb
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 08:17 AM
Sep 2015

And he wins, it's time to get out of here. If we can find a place safe from him.

Tommy2Tone

(1,307 posts)
20. So true
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 09:59 AM
Sep 2015

I am sure his numbers will fall but for him to even be in the running, let alone leading a poll, says so much about this country. It also speaks volumes about how the media controls every aspect of this country. They are aided by low information voters who are too stupid to give a shit.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
19. I think this survey is bad, but I still take Trump seriously.
Sat Sep 5, 2015, 09:59 AM
Sep 2015

We are only 4 months from the primaries and he's not slowing down.

RussBLib

(9,020 posts)
22. Ring of Fire calls "Hogwash"
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 01:32 PM
Sep 2015

I saw that too and immediately thought, "BULLSHIT"

SurveyUSA shows Trump Winning the Presidency: ROF Explains Why this and all polling is now Hogwash

SurveyUSA, a national political survey company, conducted a poll on September 2 and September 3 of 1,000 U.S. adults. SurveyUSA claims that Donald Trump is beating Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden in head-to-head matchups. Corporate media is running with this survey to show that Donald Trump is the real deal, America’s next President. The Republican Party is dancing in the streets. The problem is the results of the survey are absurd, and yet no one in corporate media is questioning it.

What is the problem with the survey? The most obvious is that it doesn’t pass the smell test when you look at the results. This should be the very first clue that something went wrong in the surveying techniques. Specifically, SurveyUSA shows Trump winning 25% of black voters and 31% of Hispanic voters. This is absurd. In the elections of 2000, 2004, 2008 and 2012, blacks voted for the GOP candidate 9%, 11%, 4% and 6% of the time, respectively. Yet, SurveyUSA wants us to believe that black voters have suddenly decided that Trump is worthy of 25% of their support.


Original is here.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
23. That poll is a real eye-opener even accounting for Survey-USA's record.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 04:37 PM
Sep 2015

I said the other day that I hope Hillary's folks are planning for how they would deal with Trump.

He is a real threat at this point.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
26. Hard to wrap my head around this idea
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 10:22 PM
Sep 2015

But anything is possible. Time to figure out the anti trump strategy.

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