Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumInsiders: Clinton Still on Track to Win Iowa and New Hampshire (HILLARY GROUP)
Despite a barrage of bad headlines, lagging poll numbers and mounting evidence that she's in a dogfight with Bernie Sanders, Democratic insiders overwhelmingly think Hillary Clinton would win Iowa and New Hampshire if the contests were held this week.
Driving the high degree of confidence in Clinton's chances is a belief that her field organization is too formidable for Sanders to overcome. "Best campaign infrastructure ever built," said an uncommitted New Hampshire Democrat. "They can overcome any deficit."
Both in Iowa and New Hampshire, eight out of 10 Democrats surveyed said Clinton would win if the contests were held this week. Those responses come even as the Vermont senator pushed past Clinton in an Iowa poll released Thursday, something he has already done in New Hampshire....
Although the polls say otherwise right now, I think Hillary will win the primary," a New Hampshire Democrat said. "It is still early, she retooled her campaign to better reflect her authenticity, trustworthiness and exceptional qualifications. Polls have been proven wrong, especially in NH!"
While few insiders discounted the polls, or the notion that Sanders is riding a wave of momentum, some hold the view that Sanders has peaked, and that the organization, money and historic nature of the Clinton campaign still position the former secretary of state best for when voters actually head to the polls....
Politico: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/clinton-survives-213529#ixzz3lRuF5yeY
onehandle
(51,122 posts)What condiment goes best with crow?
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DeepModem Mom
(38,402 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)enough. One journalist told him to be careful what he wished for. She said once we start reporting, we start digging, and supporters don't always like what we turn up. I don't know if the journalist knows something that hasn't been disclosed, or if she was just making generalizations.
pandr32
(11,584 posts)...that would be rather unpalatable for many.
B.S.'s avowed support of the Sandinistas and loud public praise of Daniel Ortega for one.
Sanders, for some reason while still mayor with larger ambitions, went to meet him. Aside from the fact that he must not have bothered to research enough to find out that the Sandinistas had imposed a State of Emergency in Nicaragua, had systematically stripped everyone's guaranteed rights away, had shut down all independent media and forced everyone to broadcast State programming only, had committed genocide of 70,000 indigenous people, had murdered tens of thousands of "political enemies", had imprisoned tens of thousands of political prisoners, sanctioned the widespread use of torture, acted as paid assassins for Pablo Escobar and his cartel...killing public figures and enemies of the cartel within Columbia, built an airstrip for the cartel to smuggle cocaine into the U.S.
He also tried to meet with Fidel Castro who blew him off. What was Sanders thinking and doing, anyway? How does any of this support his claim of being a socialist democrat?
It kinds of reminds me of the pictures of McCain with who he thought were regular rebels fighting for freedom from the Assad regime...later they were identified as members of ISIS.
Anyway...hardly great stuff for someone with presidential ambitions.
My husband, a Vietnam vet who was drafted and given the choice of going to Vietnam or jail is not very impressed with Sander's tactic of applying for conscientious objector status and now wanting to cherry-pick which wars are immoral and which ones aren't, especially after Sanders openly supported the Sandinistas. All the military members in my family agree that the last war that was really about freedom was WWII.
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)pandr32
(11,584 posts)...and can't help but notice the extensive list of resources and bibliography. Propaganda does tend to influence recorded history to some extent...but no way does it explain all the sources cited.
B.S.'s avowed support, his strange travel planes to visit Ortega there, and the rest of it is easily verifiable.
FloridaBlues
(4,008 posts)Once they start getting into 34 yrs of voting records and personal business, he may not be able to stay on the pedestal they have placed him on for long.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)Once that genie is out of the bottle, they may come to regret it. As was pointed out on "On Point" today, well over half the country emphatically states that they would never vote for a "Democratic Socialist". And even though polls show HRC slipping, not a single poll shows BS winning against ANY republican, AFAIK.
Rose Siding
(32,623 posts)The spotlight will burn the Bern
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)
than she was in 2008, in Iowa.
In Sept 2007, Hillary was far ahead in the polls, with Edwards and Obama trailing.
She's now, one point behind Sanders, according to the latest poll. That is mind blowing.
I'd say that she's all ready peaked in Iowa. Everyone all ready knows who she is. She's losing support. She's lost 20 points in Iowa since May. Her campaign is on a downward trajectory.
There are less than four months before the Iowa caucuses, so who knows what will happen. However, to suggest that she's going to win, is a rather large statement to make when you are on such a steep decline.
I don't see how she corrects this. She's not an unknown, who just has to get out there and let everyone know who she is. They know plenty.
I think these statements are a last-resort spin to lots of very bad news for Clinton.
Cha
(297,240 posts)is buying what you're pushing.
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)Does Biden look likes really running?
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)56 points behind in SC. He's still struggling in the single digits among people of color, and that includes Asians & Latinos. I don't know what eventually happens in IA & NH, but the nomination process has to come to the rest of the country, eventually.
pandr32
(11,584 posts)...and doing an awesome job. I expect her campaign to keep her very busy and as a result we should see an uptick in the selected polls you mentioned (Nate Silver just gave her fabulous odds to win). We will see her being very presidential-like, so no worries, though somehow I am not sure you actually care.
FloridaBlues
(4,008 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)This is happening. The debates have not started, this will deliver more information to who is more experienced and capable of handling the job of president. The first course of campaigning has only started, more is to come.
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)Gothmog
(145,242 posts)I am a strong believer in a strong ground game and GOTV operations
postatomic
(1,771 posts)As a Caucus State it is still going with the Horse and Buggy Primary venue. The Caucus System is very antiquated. I think I read where the GOP is dumping a few Caucus States. I wish the DNC would do this.
Long Time Democrats in Iowa, especially in Western Iowa, aren't going to put up with a bunch of faux Democrats who are one time members for a candidate that no one really knows if he's a Democrat, a convenient Democrat in name, or a Socialist who wears a Democratic Hat when he has to but then goes back to his roots. Someone who has never spoke well of Democrats.
And New Hampshire has a strong core of long-time Democrats. We don't see polls that reflect the demographics accurately. Lots and Lots of Republicans are participating in these polls.
Don't freak out about "Polls". Once BS has the full light of the media shining on him, which I guess his supporters want, it's not going to go well for BS. He is not fully vetted but believe me.... there are plenty of people outside of the BS camp that are doing that right now. A few 15 second PAC ads showing BS bashing Democrats will sink his ship.
So, don't stress out about "Polls" in this bizarre Primary. They don't mean shit.
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)are sure to sink him!