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DURHAM D

(32,611 posts)
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 09:47 PM Oct 2015

Gloria Steinem: why the White House Needs Hillary Clinton

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/19/gloria-steinem-hillary-clinton-white-house



I know Hillary Clinton mostly in the way we all do, as a public figure in good times and bad, one who became part of our lives and even our dreams. I once introduced her to a thousand women in a hotel ballroom. Standing behind her as she spoke, I could see the binder on the lectern with her speech carefully laid out – and also that she wasn’t reading from it. Instead, she was responding to people who had spoken before her, addressing activists and leaders she saw in the audience, and putting their work in a national and global context – all in such clear and graceful sentences that no one would have guessed she hadn’t written them in advance. It was an on-the-spot tour de force, perhaps the best I’ve ever heard.

But what clinched it for me was listening to her speak after a performance of Eve Ensler’s play Necessary Targets, based on interviews with women in one of the camps set up to treat women who had endured unspeakable suffering, humiliation, and torture in the ethnic wars within the former Yugoslavia. To speak to an audience that had just heard these heartbreaking horrors seemed impossible for anyone, and Hillary had the added burden of representing the Clinton administration, which had been criticised for slowness in stopping this genocide. Nonetheless, she rose in the silence, with no possibility of preparing, and began to speak quietly – about suffering, about the importance of serving as witnesses to suffering. Most crucial of all, she admitted this country’s slowness in intervening. By the time she sat down, she had brought the audience together and given us all a shared meeting place: the simple truth.


When she left the White House and decided to run for the US Senate from her new home in New York State – something no first lady, not even Eleanor Roosevelt, had dared to do – I was blindsided by the hostility toward her from some women. They called her cold, calculating, ambitious, and even “unfeminist” for using political experience gained as a wife. These were not the rightwing extremists who had accused the Clintons of everything from perpetrating real estate scams in Arkansas to murdering a White House aide with whom Hillary supposedly had an affair. On the contrary, they mostly agreed with her on the issues, yet some were so opposed to her that they came to be called Hillary Haters. It took me weeks of listening on the road to begin to understand why.


This is a long article and worth your time.
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Gloria Steinem: why the White House Needs Hillary Clinton (Original Post) DURHAM D Oct 2015 OP
Powerful Evergreen Emerald Oct 2015 #1
K & R, great article, thanks for sharing. Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #2
Powerful read from a true feminist (and I love her "Ms" title and use it to this day!). BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #3
Yes, good read! yallerdawg Oct 2015 #8
"It matters to an awful lot of people" ~ It sure matters to me! BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #9
Must read. Thanks for posting GusBob Oct 2015 #4
Great read. brer cat Oct 2015 #5
A few weeks ago I had a long conversation with my sister on this subject. DURHAM D Oct 2015 #7
"In a classic sense, they were trying to kill the messenger." SunSeeker Oct 2015 #6
I personally know a few women like that...and they're virulent Hillary-haters. BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #10
Yup. What horrible lives those haters must lead. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #11

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
1. Powerful
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 09:55 PM
Oct 2015

I have always liked Steinem. I will never forget when she was on Phil Donahue talk show talking feminism and a smart ass guy stood up and asked if she was a lesbian. She responded: "that depends, are you the alternative?" She is a great American treasure.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
3. Powerful read from a true feminist (and I love her "Ms" title and use it to this day!).
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 10:07 PM
Oct 2015

If ever the United States would elect a woman president, it has to be Hillary Clinton. She's got it all, seen it all, and has the battle scars to prove that she knows how to survive in a quintessential pro-male country. Her powerful and masterful debate performance pretty much sealed the deal for us.

As a woman, a mother, and a strong independent who considers herself an equal to my husband, I am honored to be a supporter of our future woman president, President Hillary Clinton, and I and my group of 41 young voters, will cast our votes for her come June 2016 and then again in November 2016.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
8. Yes, good read!
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 09:44 AM
Oct 2015

In my professional salutations to women, I have always used Ms. out of respect.

Defining a woman by her marital status always felt profoundly sexist to me once Gloria Steinem pointed it out!

Another point she makes, about the older women who knew they would never see a woman president when Hillary lost the primary, that is very poignant.

Many people dismiss the notion that gender should matter in an election. And before you know it, a couple centuries pass.

What it means to be American and the land of opportunity and we have unlimited potential, all this has a big hole in it until we smash that one last glass ceiling.

It matters to an awful lot of people.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
9. "It matters to an awful lot of people" ~ It sure matters to me!
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:02 AM
Oct 2015

Because it matters for my daughter who is as independent as her mother.

We feel we've gotten the best of all worlds with Hillary Clinton as president. She's the most qualified, most understanding, most pragmatic, most connected (in Congress and beyond), most fearless, most experienced of the five running for the Democratic nomination. As her slogan reads, she's a Progressive, but a progressive who gets things done. Oh...and she's a woman.

brer cat

(24,588 posts)
5. Great read.
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 10:55 PM
Oct 2015

I appreciated her insights into "Hillary hate" which I struggle to understand and counter.

Highly recommend reading the entire article. K&R and thanks, Durham D, for sharing.

DURHAM D

(32,611 posts)
7. A few weeks ago I had a long conversation with my sister on this subject.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 09:22 AM
Oct 2015

We were totally stumped and to be honest a little pissed at some female friends and relatives that have said stupid and nonsensical things about Hillary.

We gave up on trying to understand but this article provides insight into where they are coming from as their Hillary hating says way more about them then it does about Hillary. It is sad.

SunSeeker

(51,620 posts)
6. "In a classic sense, they were trying to kill the messenger."
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 11:33 PM
Oct 2015

Steinem makes the interesting conclusion as to why some women, especially women who are much like Hillary, married to powerful men, end of being some of the most virulent Hillary Haters:

It dawned on me that if a sexual connection is the only bond between a husband and wife, an affair can make her feel replaceable – and perhaps cause her to be replaced. This was not only emotionally painful but devastating when it also meant losing social identity and economic security as well. I began to understand that Hillary represented the very public, in-your-face opposite of the precarious and unequal lives that some women were living.


http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/19/gloria-steinem-hillary-clinton-white-house

Great article.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
10. I personally know a few women like that...and they're virulent Hillary-haters.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:10 AM
Oct 2015

Now I understand why. These women are married to wealthy men who hold the checkbook and who see a strong woman like Hillary Clinton as a threat to their masculinity. Naturally, their dutifully loyal wives believe the same thing.

Then there's this woman who is a self-made mulit-millionaire, who owns a 10,000 sq/f home in South Pasadena and a beach house at one of California's most exclusive beaches (a client of my husband's), and she's all 100% pro-Hillary! This woman created something in her kitchen that she was able to market to Whole Foods and other grocery giants and made millions doing so. She's the most down-to-Earth, kind, compassionate, and independently wealthy woman my husband's met so far - and she loves and supports Hillary Clinton.

SunSeeker

(51,620 posts)
11. Yup. What horrible lives those haters must lead.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:15 AM
Oct 2015

I can't imagine being married to someone who didn't think of you as his equal.

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