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DeepModem Mom

(38,402 posts)
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:28 AM Nov 2015

Washington Post Editorial Board: Clinton pays an unfair price for nuanced policy response. (HRC)

The convential wisdom about Saturday night’s Democratic presidential debate is that former secretary of state Hillary Clinton, the front-runner, committed a number of gaffes that might come back to haunt her. This demonstrates that the perception of how candidates “do” in debates has little or no relation to the substance of their words.

Ms. Clinton is paying a price for attempting to inject a modicum of policy nuance into a discussion with two opponents, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and former Maryland governor Martin O’Malley, who are trailing her and have nothing to lose by spouting undiluted populism. On the minimum wage, for example, Mr. Sanders and Mr.?O’Malley insisted that it be raised over time to $15 per hour, even after the questioner posited that a leading Democratic labor economist, Alan Krueger, believes the costs in lost jobs of such a huge increase, from the current level of $7.25, could outweigh the benefits. Their answers boiled down to: “I don’t care what the leading expert says, I want $15.” So much for evidence-based policy-making....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/hillary-clintons-sensible-gaffes/2015/11/16/80eb1174-8c9f-11e5-ae1f-af46b7df8483_story.html?postshare=7711447730947020&tid=ss_tw via Washington Post

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Washington Post Editorial Board: Clinton pays an unfair price for nuanced policy response. (HRC) (Original Post) DeepModem Mom Nov 2015 OP
That was on point. BootinUp Nov 2015 #1
Ms. Clinton is paying a price for attempting to inject a modicum of policy nuance into a discussion Cha Nov 2015 #2
LOL!!! DeepModem Mom Nov 2015 #3
Yup-->Sanders and O'M "spouting undiluted populism" riversedge Nov 2015 #5
I agree. brer cat Nov 2015 #4
Oh wow.. I had to read that a couple of times to get it.. you're right.. bern! Cha Nov 2015 #6
Essentially it's about sound bites vs reality BooScout Nov 2015 #7
BS and MOM can say anything, but HRC is looking ahead and wants to keep promises. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #8

Cha

(297,503 posts)
2. Ms. Clinton is paying a price for attempting to inject a modicum of policy nuance into a discussion
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:46 AM
Nov 2015
with two opponents, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and former Maryland governor Martin O’Malley, who are trailing her and have nothing to lose by spouting undiluted populism"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/hillary-clintons-sensible-gaffes/2015/11/16/80eb1174-8c9f-11e5-ae1f-af46b7df8483_story.html?postshare=7711447730947020&tid=ss_tw via Washington Post

Fuck yeah! 'Cuse my cussing, DM M..

brer cat

(24,591 posts)
4. I agree.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 09:51 AM
Nov 2015

A bit OT, but the last sentence was a nice zing: It’s hyperbolic to assert, as Mr. Sanders does, that “the business model of Wall Street is fraud” — though if he had been talking about politics, he might have had a stronger point.

Cha

(297,503 posts)
6. Oh wow.. I had to read that a couple of times to get it.. you're right.. bern!
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:05 AM
Nov 2015
"It’s hyperbolic to assert, as Mr. Sanders does, that “the business model of Wall Street is fraud” — though if he had been talking about politics, he might have had a stronger point."

Bernie? Hyperbolic? Say it isn't so!!

brer cat

BooScout

(10,406 posts)
7. Essentially it's about sound bites vs reality
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 12:33 PM
Nov 2015

Sanders and O'Malley will say anything at this point that will grab people's attention....while Hillary on the other hand speaks about actual reality based ideas and policy.

SunSeeker

(51,646 posts)
8. BS and MOM can say anything, but HRC is looking ahead and wants to keep promises.
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 01:43 AM
Nov 2015

She doesn't want to say stuff she knows she can't do once in office. But BS and MOM don't have that issue. They will never be in the oval office.

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