Hillary Clinton
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Since we continue to have this ongoing campaign of deflection, distraction and disambiguation regarding what happened, let's get back to what this really means.
Stealing Campaign Data Not a Good Fit for Bernie Sanders Brand
Will voters whove seen him as the most honest now change their minds?
Source: National Journal, by S.V. DáteWith a curt I apologize on national television Saturday night, Bernie Sanders tried to put behind him his campaigns first real scandal of the race, proof that his staff had studied data collected by rival Hillary Clinton.
It may have come too late.
Because unlike many other politicians whose statements and motives are often viewed with skepticism by voters, one of Sanderss key selling points has been his personal brand. At his rallies, supporters nearly always cite his honesty and incorruptibility as one of his strongest attributes.While the Sanders campaign downplayed the level of its snooping, the queries it ran produced lists extremely useful to its efforts in the early voting states.
With lists of Democrats who are strong Clinton supporters, who are not Clinton supporters, and who are most likely to turn out and vote come primary day, the Sanders campaign would have been able to save precious time as it sought out its own likely voters, as well as gotten a strong idea of Clintons strategy and turnout projections, Clinton press secretary Brian Fallon told National Journal. In all, the queries produced hundreds of thousands of names in about a dozen states, including Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, and Florida.These staffers then saved this information in their personal folders on the system, and over the course of the next day, we learned that at least one staffer appeared to have generated reports and exported them from the system, Dacey wrote. None of this is in dispute. Its fully documented in the system logs.
Meaning, Fallon said, that if Sanderss staff did not succeed in improperly grabbing Clinton campaign data, it wasnt for the lack of trying.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/s/126343/stealing-campaign-data-not-good-fit-bernie-sanders-brand?mref=home_top_side_3
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)Treant
(1,968 posts)That data was on the wrong side of the firewall, wearing a security skirt that was way too short.
It deserved to get pulled into the alley and copied by Sanders' team for forty minutes. It's all the data's fault and Sanders' team was clearly not to be expected to follow ethical rules governing these things.
Not. Guilty. Unless you mean Clinton, that is, in which case this is clearly all her fault. She's responsible for every hired vendor, every world spoken by every staffer, and every single event taking place in her campaign and in other campaigns when involved with hers.
Sanders is clearly not responsible for the actions of people he hired (directly or indirectly). Totally innocent.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)And that other 'group'!
So many Hillary supporters have both on 'ignore,' it is of value to recap occasionally!
Treant
(1,968 posts)Since somebody told me how to do it. It's been on my mind to simply ignore the GD: P group as well. I'll find out about important news, so no problems there.
And yes, the reason I'm ignoring Those Others is mostly because of the posting I made. Blame the Victim is an extremely weak argument.
Cha
(297,650 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)With all of the attempt to deflect the real problem I wonder what is attempted to cover up.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,240 posts)always question whether they achieved some unfair advantage from the data they stole, but then I never trusted BS & his cohorts to begin with.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Let's see how her opponents deal with "speculation" and "innuendo"!
Trump already says he doesn't like it - he should get an apology.
In tennis terms -"Advantage Hillary!"
Welcome to the Big Leagues!
Walk away
(9,494 posts)I am so glad he isn't a Democrat because he is just an embarrassment.