Hillary Clinton

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts) Fri Jan 22, 2016, 09:18 AM Jan 2016

Progressive Brothers: You Don’t Have to Hate Hillary to Love Bernie...

(and Don’t Drag Elizabeth Warren Into It)

Source: Blue Nation Review by Peter Daou

My political career was forged in the flame wars that followed the (s)election of George W. Bush. In 2001, I discovered a community of like-minded progressives at Democratic Underground and I never looked back. In the 15 years since I joined DU and began battling “Freepers,” I’ve lived in the bubbling, churning cauldron of online politics, from the rise of blogs to the advent of social media. Like anyone else who engages in vigorous online debate, I’ve been attacked and smeared and insulted and I’ve developed skin thick enough to brush it off and keep fighting.

As an anti-war protester (who grew up in a war zone), I battled the “101st Fighting Keyboard Brigade” and was labeled a traitor and an America hater. As an adviser to John Kerry, I fought the reprehensible swiftboaters in the online trenches and endured threats to my family from gun-toting, warmongering loudmouths.

In all my years of online advocacy, nothing has matched the unhinged attacks generated by my unabashed support for Hillary Clinton, someone I admire tremendously and for whom I’ve worked as an adviser. For the first time in my political career, I have a sense of what it must be like to be a feminist on the front lines of politics, where each day brings a new wave of venom from predominantly young men. That so many of these verbal assaults come from the left is deeply troubling.

Here’s my sincere question to a segment of Bernie Sanders supporters: Why do you have to hate Hillary to love Bernie? Why do you have to echo Karl Rove and the GOP in their misogynistic rhetoric? Why do you have to do the dirty work of the far right and tear down one of the most accomplished women in the history of American politics?

Read the rest at: http://bluenationreview.com/you-dont-have-to-hate-hillary-to-love-bernie/

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Progressive Brothers: You Don’t Have to Hate Hillary to Love Bernie... (Original Post) yallerdawg Jan 2016 OP

K & R Iliyah Jan 2016 #1

A very honest point of view, thanks. Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #2

I love Bernie. How can you not? lamp_shade Jan 2016 #3

I don't like bernie.. how's that? Cha Jan 2016 #4

Nor do I Treant Jan 2016 #9

Me neither kjones Jan 2016 #10

That makes four of us. I can't stand to listen to, or look at him. Nothing against NY, but that.... Tarheel_Dem Jan 2016 #13

I do not understand the emotional nonsense Cary Jan 2016 #5

Peter Daou was with #HillaryMen... yallerdawg Jan 2016 #6

Thank you for posting common sense thoughts FloridaBlues Jan 2016 #7

Look I have said it time and time again Coolest Ranger Jan 2016 #8

The psychology of it is dismayingly simple Ellen Forradalom Jan 2016 #11

More statistics to ponder. yallerdawg Jan 2016 #12

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)

1. K & R

Reply to yallerdawg (Original post)

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 09:19 AM

Jan 2016

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)

2. A very honest point of view, thanks.

Reply to yallerdawg (Original post)

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 09:24 AM

Jan 2016

lamp_shade

(14,846 posts)

3. I love Bernie. How can you not?

Reply to yallerdawg (Original post)

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 09:30 AM

Jan 2016

Hillary, however, is my candidate. If he wins the nom, I'll support him 150% but right now I just can't envision him as CIC.

Cha

(297,801 posts)

4. I don't like bernie.. how's that?

Reply to yallerdawg (Original post)

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 09:49 AM

Jan 2016

Treant

(1,968 posts)

9. Nor do I

Reply to Cha (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 12:11 PM

Jan 2016

I find him grating, dismissive of anybody who doesn't cleave to his views, overly loud, and obsessed with one subject.

kjones

(1,053 posts)

10. Me neither

Reply to Treant (Reply #9)

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 01:05 PM

Jan 2016

I'd still vote for him, of course (I'm not some vindictive idiot)
but the man has lost my respect.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,245 posts)

13. That makes four of us. I can't stand to listen to, or look at him. Nothing against NY, but that....

Reply to kjones (Reply #10)

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 01:33 PM

Jan 2016

lower east side accent is just as unpalatable for me as watching an entire episode of Jersey Shore.

Cary

(11,746 posts)

5. I do not understand the emotional nonsense

Reply to yallerdawg (Original post)

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 10:24 AM

Jan 2016

Reality is that our enemy is "conservatism." We live in a democracy. Neither Clinton nor Sanders can do much of anything without mass support.

One thing that is critical is judicial appointments. That will affect all of us, personally, for the next 30 years. Do you want Republican judges?

Cults of personality are for suckers and rubes.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)

6. Peter Daou was with #HillaryMen...

Reply to yallerdawg (Original post)

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 10:41 AM

Jan 2016

and has focused on the inherent sexist treatment regarding Hillary Clinton.

Which brings me to another myth, namely that Hillary supporters think she should be elected simply because she’s a woman. That is utter horse manure, to be perfectly blunt. Hillary Clinton is one of the most experienced, knowledgeable, disciplined and thoughtful candidates ever to run for the U.S. presidency. She is incalculably better than her GOP rivals.

The straw man accusation that Hillary’s supporters want her to win simply because of her gender is wrongheaded and frankly, another instantiation of the gender barrier.

FloridaBlues

(4,009 posts)

7. Thank you for posting common sense thoughts

Reply to yallerdawg (Reply #6)

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 10:58 AM

Jan 2016

There's a lack of it at DU for awhile now
The over the top insulting words thrown at Hillary supporters let alone her as a person and candidate is more than I want to deal with most days.
I've notice that HRC supporters post less and less at this site and for good reason.

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)

8. Look I have said it time and time again

Reply to yallerdawg (Original post)

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 11:05 AM

Jan 2016

I like Bernie. I like most of his ideas, I don't like that he is begging for my vote. I only vote for Democrats and until he changes to become a democrat and so far he hasn't I won't even entertain voting for him in the primaries. Now, if he wins the nomination and that's a big IF, I'll vote for him in the general but it will be a protest vote

Ellen Forradalom

(16,160 posts)

11. The psychology of it is dismayingly simple

Reply to yallerdawg (Original post)

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 01:07 PM

Jan 2016

Brocialists don't want someone who reminds them of Mom in charge. Mom is not cool. I really think it is about that simple.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)

12. More statistics to ponder.

Reply to Ellen Forradalom (Reply #11)

Fri Jan 22, 2016, 01:15 PM

Jan 2016

From: http://www.hillarymen.com/latest/hillary-is-the-anti-establishment-choice

There have been 46 female senators of the United States. 20 of those are now serving, the all-time high-water mark. There have been 1,919 male senators in U.S. history. That’s 98 percent male.

There have been 3 female Secretaries of State in U.S. history and 65 men. That’s just above 95 percent male.

There have been 4 female Supreme Court justices in the United States, including 3 now serving on the bench, easily the greatest representation in history. There have been 108 male justices. That’s more than 96 percent male.

There have been 44 Presidents of the United States. All men. The math is easy: that’s 100 percent male.

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