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Fla Dem

(23,691 posts)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 02:06 PM Feb 2016

Bernie Sanders will never be president.

Last edited Mon Feb 1, 2016, 02:39 PM - Edit history (1)

If You’re Liberal and You Think Hillary Clinton Is Corrupt and Untrustworthy, You’re Rewarding 25 Years of GOP Smears

Chez Pazienza January 31, 2016
Daily Banter

Bernie Sanders will never be president. Let’s just get that out of the way right now. He stands very little chance of pulling down the Democratic nomination and no chance at all of winning a general election. His rabid acolytes can argue with this all they want but they’ll be wrong for several inarguable reasons: because the “political revolution” Bernie Sanders needs to advance his campaign and agenda is pie-in-the-sky thinking that simply doesn’t occur in representative democracies like ours, where change always comes incrementally and our entire system is designed so it can’t be remade in one fell swoop; because he’s a one-note candidate who concerns himself with nothing other than his admittedly noble lifelong obsession with wealth inequality; because America isn’t evolved enough to elect an avowed socialist, democratic or otherwise, and it unfortunately won’t get near someone who openly eschews religion; and maybe most importantly because once the GOP considered Bernie a sworn enemy rather than the perfect foil it can use to destroy Hillary Clinton, it would eat him alive. Eat. Him. Alive.

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There are reasons you may choose not to vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016, but one would hope they’re policy issues rather than problems with her personality — because the “personality” that’s been sold to the American electorate is largely manufactured, and not by Clinton herself (another facet of the smear: that she’s a phony). The reality is that Clinton was one of the most liberal members of the Senate during her time there, ranking within ten points of progressive messiah Bernie Sanders and her history as a crusader for progressive causes is precisely what so motivated the GOP to destroy her in the first place. As far as the right was concerned, Clinton stepped far over the line when she pushed for healthcare reform way back in 1993 and her activist past informed a future as a “difficult woman.” By the way, it hardly needs to be said but many of the conservative attacks on Clinton throughout the decades have been the product of rank sexism. Men rarely get labeled difficult or abrasive and their general likability isn’t often called into question. Those are all buzzwords employed specifically to knock empowered women down a peg. And Hillary Clinton has been subjected to them — and so much worse — her entire political career.

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thedailybanter.com/2016/01/hillary-gop-smears/

A great OP Ed piece, long but right on point.

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Bernie Sanders will never be president. (Original Post) Fla Dem Feb 2016 OP
K&R! stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #1
Many of those well funded and crafted GOP smears covering a 25 year span pandr32 Feb 2016 #2
24/7 workinclasszero Feb 2016 #4
Spot on, workinclasszero. Spot. On. BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #7
Yes they are, that's why I felt this piece was very appropriate. Lots of RW meddling. nt Fla Dem Feb 2016 #25
Good piece workinclasszero Feb 2016 #3
It's because - horseshoe theory! BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #5
Notice how the two ends are so close to each other? workinclasszero Feb 2016 #9
Yeep. And that's why I posted the image. BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #11
Well, thank you for letting us know that our votes or support do not count. Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2016 #6
How about you just skip this group? It's the Hillary Clinton Group. BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #8
I read everything in the Latest and the Greatest pages. Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2016 #10
Yeah, yeah. Excuses, excuses. When you responded to the OP, didn't see the bold BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #12
What was disrespectful about my post? Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2016 #13
You can vote and your vote will be counted. Sorry your feelings are hurt. Fla Dem Feb 2016 #16
My feelings were definitely not hurt. Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2016 #17
In case you didn't notice, this is the HILLARY CLINTON GROUP! Please don't come here.... George II Feb 2016 #20
It's not the straw man group. fleabiscuit Feb 2016 #24
In fact the GOP have already started revealing their plans for Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #14
spot on enid602 Feb 2016 #15
A BS supporter actually said those 30 years of slander were Clinton's "baggage"... displacedtexan Feb 2016 #18
I am ashamed of liberals who perpetuate "conservative" lies and smears Cary Feb 2016 #19
The writer dpatbrown Feb 2016 #21
Hillary has proven she can stand up to the GOP smear machine. Sanders has not. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #32
Thank you for that reminder Ellen Forradalom Feb 2016 #33
You had me at... yallerdawg Feb 2016 #22
policy .... not personality. ish of the hammer Feb 2016 #23
K & R SunSeeker Feb 2016 #26
When you start with a flawed presumption, you can argue anything. eggplant Feb 2016 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author closeupready Feb 2016 #28
Can't disagree with the history or rank sexism argument but it IS the primary season. ancianita Feb 2016 #29
k&R Firebrand Gary Feb 2016 #30
This is so true and so infuriating mcar Feb 2016 #31
And so many riversedge Feb 2016 #34

pandr32

(11,588 posts)
2. Many of those well funded and crafted GOP smears covering a 25 year span
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 02:13 PM
Feb 2016

...are regularly on display right here on DU

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
3. Good piece
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 02:13 PM
Feb 2016
..once the GOP considered Bernie a sworn enemy rather than the perfect foil it can use to destroy Hillary Clinton, it would eat him alive. Eat. Him. Alive.

Trump and the tea party are praying that Bernie can somehow knockout Hillary.

Bernie would be the biggest pushover in the GE since McGovern. It would be a republican landslide and hand the SCOTUS over to hardcore rightists for the next 40 years or so!

Bush just about destroyed this country in 8 years Herr Trump would finish the job.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
6. Well, thank you for letting us know that our votes or support do not count.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 02:14 PM
Feb 2016

Let's just skip the formalities, eh?

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
8. How about you just skip this group? It's the Hillary Clinton Group.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 02:20 PM
Feb 2016

What is it with Bernie supporters that they can't stay OUT of the Hillary Clinton Group?

Still, no matter how Bernie supporters wished differently, their preferred candidate will NOT become the Democratic Party's nominee for president.

He's already failed to convince the majority of minorities that he cares about them and their issues, and without their support, he's toast, meaning, he'll never be the Democratic Party's nominee. However, he will be richer after this and he'll have some added gravitas so he'll be able to brag that he, too, ran for president once upon a time.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
10. I read everything in the Latest and the Greatest pages.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 02:22 PM
Feb 2016

If I choose to comment, I will.

Thank you for your suggestion, though. I didn't mean to violate the echo chamber.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
12. Yeah, yeah. Excuses, excuses. When you responded to the OP, didn't see the bold
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 02:28 PM
Feb 2016
Hillary Clinton (Group) right above the reply title? It's in BOLD.

Choose to comment all you want, but in a protected group, show respect or leave.

Now back to your little echo chamber you go! Buh-bye.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
13. What was disrespectful about my post?
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 02:32 PM
Feb 2016

Again, if you want to ban my posts from this group, please go ahead. Until then, I will comment on any post that shows up in Latest or in Greatest.

Thanks again for your suggestion, though.

Fla Dem

(23,691 posts)
16. You can vote and your vote will be counted. Sorry your feelings are hurt.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 02:53 PM
Feb 2016

Just posting an opinion piece. You didn't have to read it.

George II

(67,782 posts)
20. In case you didn't notice, this is the HILLARY CLINTON GROUP! Please don't come here....
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 04:24 PM
Feb 2016

.....and start putting down those CLINTON supporters who post here.

Thank you for your cooperation.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
18. A BS supporter actually said those 30 years of slander were Clinton's "baggage"...
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 04:12 PM
Feb 2016

... which would make her lose in November.

The bullshit is, indeed, ripening.



Cary

(11,746 posts)
19. I am ashamed of liberals who perpetuate "conservative" lies and smears
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 04:15 PM
Feb 2016

It's a pity they themselves have no shame.

 

dpatbrown

(368 posts)
21. The writer
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 04:31 PM
Feb 2016

claims that Sanders will be eaten alive if he gets the nomination. Really? Does the writer think that Clinton won't get the same treatment? Come on.

Secondly, the writer brings up her time in the Senate, and how progressive she was. She voted to invade another country, and consequently total instability in the region. Her experience did nothing for her.

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
32. Hillary has proven she can stand up to the GOP smear machine. Sanders has not.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 05:23 PM
Feb 2016

He has led a sheltered life in the bluest of blue states.

Hillary did not "vote to invade" Iraq, she voted, with the vast majority of Dems, to authorize force based on conditions, including that Bush let Hans Blix finish his inspections and only go in with UN approval. Bush did neither. And he entered without an exit plan and dismissed Sadam's army, creating ISIS. That is on George Bush, not Hillary. Hillary would have never done that, as the conditions in the IWA demonstrate.

It is disgusting how some Sanders supporters prefer to blame Hillary and/or Dems for Iraq instead of the war criminal who actually committed the crime.

Oh, BTW, you are in the Hillary Group. It appears that escaped your powers of observation, as did a lot of other things.

Ellen Forradalom

(16,160 posts)
33. Thank you for that reminder
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 05:40 PM
Feb 2016

If I hear, "Hillary's Iraq war vote tells me all I need to know" one more time...

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
22. You had me at...
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 04:34 PM
Feb 2016
If You’re Liberal and You Think Hillary Clinton Is Corrupt and Untrustworthy, You’re Rewarding 25 Years of GOP Smears

It is just that clear and simple.

eggplant

(3,911 posts)
27. When you start with a flawed presumption, you can argue anything.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 05:00 PM
Feb 2016

"Bernie Sanders will never be president. Let’s just get that out of the way right now."

Um, no. Let's just get that out of the way when the primary is over.

Response to Fla Dem (Original post)

ancianita

(36,095 posts)
29. Can't disagree with the history or rank sexism argument but it IS the primary season.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 05:07 PM
Feb 2016

I like her style and don't see the words "difficult and abrasive" as anything but the whining of passive/aggressive inferiors.

The test will be this question -- every minute of her leadership -- "If a man in front of you said or did this, would you still feel/think/act the same way?"

If Hillary wins, that question should be posted on a wall of each and every West Wing office.

mcar

(42,334 posts)
31. This is so true and so infuriating
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 05:12 PM
Feb 2016

It depresses me to no end that these RW lies are touted on this site.

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
34. And so many
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 05:55 PM
Feb 2016

Sanders supporters get outraged now that the media has SLOWLY begun its vetting--only recently.

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