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Stuckinthebush

(10,845 posts)
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 11:25 AM Feb 2016

It's getting more pathetic and desperate over there

Now there is talk of how Bernie really won Iowa and the evidence is overwhelming. Some voter in some precinct in some Iowa town said his vote wasn't counted.

It's Hillary, I tell ya!

Or it could be aliens. I'm not saying it was aliens, but....

My friends, they are getting nervous. They realize this NH thing isn't going to be the 30 point victory they hoped for. They realize that NV and SC and super Tuesday are mathematical nightmares for their candidate. They realize that the kids and the bros aren't convincing Dems to vote against the Democrat.

With apologies to Game of Thrones...

March is Coming!

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It's getting more pathetic and desperate over there (Original Post) Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 OP
Feel The Borg! 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #1
Yes, the Sanders collective is Borg like Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #2
The Berg. nt Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2016 #5
It gets uglier the more Sanders is vetted and the more politics as usual Lucinda Feb 2016 #3
We knew it would get ugly once people started looking at him Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #4
That is the problem when people start looking at politicians as heroes rather than Lucinda Feb 2016 #6
This should be the end of the status of the Iowa caucus. yallerdawg Feb 2016 #7
Did you hear that Chelsea referred to Bernie as "President Sanders"? Bleacher Creature Feb 2016 #8
Yes Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #10
They're not contesting the results. End of story. Cha Feb 2016 #9
I can't wait for "March Madness", when 52% (1941) of all pledged delegates are chosen. George II Feb 2016 #11
It's crystal clear Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #12
There were some who said Sanders would win all 50 states, that fell apart after one state. George II Feb 2016 #13
49...48...47... Do I hear 46, please? No? 45? Treant Feb 2016 #14
Sanders will win 2 states. But I hear his numbers are looking good in American Samoa. George II Feb 2016 #15
I give him clear wins in six Treant Feb 2016 #16
He'll be defeated in New York, Florida, Texas, Illinois, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. And he'll George II Feb 2016 #17
Yep! Treant Feb 2016 #18
And yet they claim conspiracy over a delegate or two in IA (if that). Bleacher Creature Feb 2016 #26
But, but, it's possible, right?...Right!? kjones Feb 2016 #19
My buddy! Iliyah Feb 2016 #29
Okay, I confess: I ate all the votes shenmue Feb 2016 #20
I knew it! Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #21
Votes are tasty shenmue Feb 2016 #22
That was you? Treant Feb 2016 #24
They are.. asuhornets Feb 2016 #23
She faked the moon landing Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #25
lol good one. n/t OhZone Feb 2016 #28
In about a month, Clinton can say, "Tell you what Bernie, I'll give you my delegates from Iowa if Hoyt Feb 2016 #27
This also excuses his lack of a proper congratulations to Sec. Clinton pandr32 Feb 2016 #30
This is not a sign of patheticness or desperation. 21st Century Poet Feb 2016 #31
You're new Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #33
No! You see, Diebold cooked the results! bluestateguy Feb 2016 #32

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
3. It gets uglier the more Sanders is vetted and the more politics as usual
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 11:33 AM
Feb 2016

seems to be the order of the day for those running the campaign.
All these attempts to imply endorsements that they didn't receive are just shady af and they can't really refute them...

Stuckinthebush

(10,845 posts)
4. We knew it would get ugly once people started looking at him
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 11:34 AM
Feb 2016

He was a cipher. Now, he's a real, flawed, non-Dem.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
6. That is the problem when people start looking at politicians as heroes rather than
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 11:39 AM
Feb 2016

politicians. Bernie is a career Washington player. And with the things like the VA that he did have some control over, he failed in many, many ways. His attempt at health care legislation in 2013 had ZERO cosponsors and never made it out of committee. The more I look, the less I see him remotely up for the job as POTUS.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
7. This should be the end of the status of the Iowa caucus.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 11:59 AM
Feb 2016

We saw the process, and for many years it has had the appearance of an "American Idol" vote!

There is nothing they can do to make this more credible.

Give every delegate to Bernie - it won't make a difference!

Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
8. Did you hear that Chelsea referred to Bernie as "President Sanders"?
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 12:05 PM
Feb 2016

I have, as there have been multiple new threads each day about it since the middle of last week!

George II

(67,782 posts)
11. I can't wait for "March Madness", when 52% (1941) of all pledged delegates are chosen.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 12:28 PM
Feb 2016

Hillary Clinton is on track to win at least 1100 of those, probably many more.

By the end of next month, including Super Delegates, Clinton will need only about 500 of the remaining 1500 delegates, and Sanders isn't ahead by a 2-1 margin in any states.

It's all in the math, folks.

Stuckinthebush

(10,845 posts)
12. It's crystal clear
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 12:51 PM
Feb 2016

But we will let them feel their NH burn. It's cute how they believe Bernie can go all the way.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
14. 49...48...47... Do I hear 46, please? No? 45?
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 01:15 PM
Feb 2016

As I said, it's like watching the Donner Party have dinner. You realize they have to, but it really makes you uncomfortable.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
16. I give him clear wins in six
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 01:23 PM
Feb 2016

Just due to the vagrancies of the electorate and weather, and a close showing one way or the other in another ten as a gift. Which still leaves him with an extremely severe delegate deficit.

George II

(67,782 posts)
17. He'll be defeated in New York, Florida, Texas, Illinois, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. And he'll
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 01:30 PM
Feb 2016

be close but lose in California.

Every Democratic primary and caucus is proportional, so even if he wins a few states he'll have to win big enough to overcome the losses in all of those big states.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
18. Yep!
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 01:36 PM
Feb 2016

None of those six I give him were BIG states.

I think Ohio will be a closer race than most think. FL, IL, TX, and PA are clear losses. NY is probably a drubbing.

Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
26. And yet they claim conspiracy over a delegate or two in IA (if that).
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 03:16 PM
Feb 2016

Kind of symbolizes the short-sightedness of their entire "revolution."

Treant

(1,968 posts)
24. That was you?
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 03:11 PM
Feb 2016

The only thing left for the rest of us was the hanging chads. Those things are tasteless and not very filling, I can tell you that.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
27. In about a month, Clinton can say, "Tell you what Bernie, I'll give you my delegates from Iowa if
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 03:18 PM
Feb 2016

you and your supporters will just move on."

pandr32

(11,588 posts)
30. This also excuses his lack of a proper congratulations to Sec. Clinton
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 03:36 PM
Feb 2016

...in their minds...even though it doesn't. Sanders should have had the graciousness and proper political etiquette to congratulate her. For Pete's sake, he wants to be POTUS...a petulant, gruff, self-important POTUS???

21st Century Poet

(254 posts)
31. This is not a sign of patheticness or desperation.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 03:39 PM
Feb 2016

Why do you call people who ask for transparency in the electoral process pathetic?

Unfortunately, caucuses seem to have a number of outdated practices which are not concomitant with getting a super clear result (coin tosses, really?), even if there is no intention of 'stealing' the election. This does not matter when there is a wide margin between two candidates but it does when the difference in votes is razor-thin.

Bernie Sanders has said that, to him, it does not matter (he is gentlemanly in defeat and he is more interested in the bigger picture) but, irrespective of whom they support, voters should be interested in making the caucus process more transparent and precise.

That is neither pathetic nor desperate but democratic and right.

Stuckinthebush

(10,845 posts)
33. You're new
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:09 PM
Feb 2016

I'll be kind.

This is the Clinton group. It is generally considered to be a safe haven. Bernie has one. Go there

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
32. No! You see, Diebold cooked the results!
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 05:02 PM
Feb 2016

And we would have evidence to back it up, but Diebold disappeared the evidence! Thereby further proving the conspiracy.

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