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CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 06:38 PM Feb 2016

Prediction: Minorities Will Put Down Bernie’s Revolution

We have learned that the country’s changing demographics will have a major affect on future Presidential elections, perhaps starting this year. Minority segments or population of the United States are growing more rapidly then their non-Hispanic white counterpart and since minorities usually vote heavily for Democratic candidates, the GOP is expected to be increasingly at a disadvantage. However, the country’s minority voters are also expected to be a major factor in the 2016 Democratic primaries and caucuses. Hispanic and Afro American Democratic voters in particular are in large part less liberal than their white brethren and most don’t appear to be enlisting for Bernie Sanders’ revolution.

In Iowa minorities make up only 9 percent of the Democratic voting population, so as expected, entrance polls at the recent caucuses had only small groups of minorities to sample. However, if the data from those samples is accurate, Bernie is fortunate that minorities didn’t make up a greater percentage of the Iowa electorate during the caucuses. He had the backing of only 33% of the minorities who caucused while over 60% voted for Hillary Clinton.

That statistic will not matter a great deal in New Hampshire (February 9th) where minorities make up just 5% of the Democratic voters, but it doesn’t bode well for Sanders in the thirteen follow on state primaries and caucuses scheduled between February 20th and March 1st. A week after New Hampshire is the Nevada caucus (2/20). Nevada’s Hispanics make up one-fifth of the state’s voters. The state also has sizeable African-American and Asian-American populations so overall minorities make up 39% of the population of Nevada. Since most of Nevada’s minorities vote Democratic, they will make up an even larger percentage of the voters in the state’s Democratic caucuses.

Next on February 27th comes the South Carolina Democratic primary where minorities are expected to make up fully 55% of the voters. Then, four days later are the so called “Southeastern Conference Primaries”, consisting of 11 states and the territory of American Samoa, which are all scheduled for February first. The states participating will be: Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Georgia, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, and Virginia. Obviously this set of primaries is heavily weighted with Southern states, hence the nickname.

All seven of the Southern states have very large Afro American and/or Hispanic populations. Yes, I am including Oklahoma whose voting population is 27.8% minorities. In addition, the white Democrats in these Southern states are more moderate in their political views than their more liberal counterparts in Iowa and especially in New Hampshire and that does not bode well for Bernie Sanders. .......

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Prediction: Minorities Will Put Down Bernie’s Revolution (Original Post) CajunBlazer Feb 2016 OP
Prediction Treant Feb 2016 #1
Yep shenmue Feb 2016 #2
Been saying that for 6 months. Gman Feb 2016 #3
Even if Sanders win in New Hampshire, he will not be the nominee Gothmog Feb 2016 #4
Cornel West will convince African Americans to vote for comradebillyboy Feb 2016 #14
But - OhZone Feb 2016 #5
There is no revolution. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #6
This ^^^ Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #7
Breaking out the voters by issue shows it's worse than you think jmowreader Feb 2016 #8
The economy is my #1 Treant Feb 2016 #9
^^^ THIS ^^^ Tarheel_Dem Feb 2016 #10
The non white votes are very important. I live in a county Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #11
I agree CajunBlazer Feb 2016 #15
I agree with this. bravenak Feb 2016 #12
I've been saying all along Coolest Ranger Feb 2016 #13

Treant

(1,968 posts)
1. Prediction
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 06:40 PM
Feb 2016

Even us white crackers (and I am seriously white) aren't all that into him. Witness Iowa, a slight loss even given the overwhelmingly small number of minority voters.

Gothmog

(145,293 posts)
4. Even if Sanders win in New Hampshire, he will not be the nominee
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 06:51 PM
Feb 2016

Even if Sanders wins New Hampshire, it is unlikely that he will be the nominee http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/bernie-sanders-new-hampshire/

So why do I still think Sanders is a factional candidate? He hasn’t made any inroads with non-white voters — in particular black voters, a crucial wing of the Democratic coalition and whose support was a big part of President Obama’s toppling of Clinton in the 2008 primary. Not only are African-Americans the majority of Democratic voters in the South Carolina primary (a crucial early contest), they make up somewhere between 19 percent and 24 percent of Democrats nationwide. In the past two YouGov polls, Sanders has averaged just 5 percent with black voters. Ipsos’s weekly tracking poll has him at an average of only 7 percent over the past two weeks. Fox News (the only live-interview pollster to publish results among non-white voters in July and August) had Clinton leading Sanders 62-10 among non-white Democrats in mid-July and 65-14 in mid-August. Clinton’s edge with non-whites held even as Sanders cut her overall lead from 40 percentage points to 19....

But even if you put aside those metrics, Sanders is running into the problem that other insurgent Democrats have in past election cycles. You can win Iowa relying mostly on white liberals. You can win New Hampshire. But as Gary Hart and Bill Bradley learned, you can’t win a Democratic nomination without substantial support from African-Americans.

Iowa and New Hampshire do not represent the demographics of the Democratic Party and so will not help sanders

OhZone

(3,212 posts)
5. But -
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 06:57 PM
Feb 2016

there are just millions of Socialists out there just waiting to see if a Socialist could actually win a state!

NOT!

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
6. There is no revolution.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:13 PM
Feb 2016

Sometimes great and powerful things are easily revealed if you just look and pay attention. (People are beginning to pay attention.)

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
8. Breaking out the voters by issue shows it's worse than you think
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 10:35 PM
Feb 2016
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/primaries/IA

Bernie's platform should appeal to...

* people who rate healthcare their number one issue
* people who rate the economy their number one issue
* people who rate income inequality their number one issue
* married people who will benefit from his taxpayer-funded family leave program

It did appeal to the income-inequality faction; everyone else broke for Clinton. IOW the only people who actually like the guy are college students and recent graduates who believe their financial problems are someone else's fault. (Unfortunately for Bernie, the slice of the electorate who likes Bernie is ALSO the slice that likes Donald Trump.)

And come on: if you were in Congress, would YOU like to be the one who had to go back to your district and try to tell thousands of pissed-off little old ladies that you voted to cancel their Medicare?

Treant

(1,968 posts)
9. The economy is my #1
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 11:09 PM
Feb 2016

With health care #2. Strangely, I break Clinton because I don't want to watch somebody smash the economic infrastructure just because the replacement might be a little better.

Except you know how that works. The same movers and shakers that were running the first show will end up running the second because they know the subject. But having set it up, they know very well how to exploit it.

The only way around that is to choose new, inexperienced people...which means the restructuring will simply fail miserably.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
11. The non white votes are very important. I live in a county
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 08:26 AM
Feb 2016

In which whites are in the minority and the vote results are showing a change. I worked a precinct and noticed the non white voters are turning out, this is the path to turn from red to blue. Smart voters votes for Democratic candidates.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
15. I agree
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 04:51 PM
Feb 2016

I was reading about a huge voting drive Georgia which has GOP leaders there very worried that red state could soon turn purple or even blue. Texas in now one the majority minority states and could turn purple in the not to distant future.

Since Bernie doesn't seem to be able to talk to Hispanics and blacks, he is going hit a minority wall of minority voters in the South. When you hit a wall at high speed at minimum momentum comes to halt and normally that momentum is put into reverse.

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
13. I've been saying all along
Mon Feb 8, 2016, 10:44 AM
Feb 2016

that black people are going to be what carries him to the nomination. But the fact that he can't come to talk about our issues but instead focus on people who look like him speaks wonders. That's why many of us are going for Hillary.

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