As if that's going to fool us when they post anti Hillary digs and screeds masqueraded as helpful insight. .

...but it isn't worth our time.

... have adjusted their personal settings to disable them. (They're disabled in my personal settings. Some of them can be tiresome and distracting.)

I have 3 hides in this group since Oct. In over 5 years at DU I had 1 hide previously, and that was from lack of sentence structure, a misunderstanding.

There is no safe place to speak your mind in this forum if you are a supporter of HRC, thats a fact

by looking for means to get them banned. I have seen this same warning in the African American group for those who support Clinton.

If someone takes issue with something a poster writes in a safe-haven group, then they need to take it up with the Moderator. That's why we have them, right? Now safe-haven groups have, in addition to a Moderator, the ability to alert/hide posts at their own discretion, which makes it twice as dangerous to post.

I have my bright moments.

This is absolutely ridiculous! It's the reason why we have MODS in safe-haven groups.

Wasn't that jury-thingy created in lieu of Moderators? So shouldn't the Moderators have sole power in hiding or deleting posts in safe haven groups, not some disgruntled supporter of the other side?

This bug needs fixing posthaste. Eliminate the alert/jury thingy in safe haven groups where there are Mods. This would then make it a true safe haven. As it is now, there is no "safe" haven and Hillary Clinton supporters are still being hidden by Sanders supporters at their pro-censoring discretion.

were talking to Skinner about in ATA.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110744229

I doesn't look like Skinner wants to get involved until after the primaries. I think we are on our own until then.

Keep banning them from our safe haven until Skinner decides to act.

Apparently the Horseshoe Principle has a basis in fact. Those on both the far left and the far right are in many ways more alike than different. Among many other similarities, they both want to silence anyone's view which opposes their own.

Is there any wonder that far left governments often become dictatorships?

being undemocratic.

This, of course, they say with the pointer permanently parked on the alert button should they come across a post they don't like.

Thanks to the actions by some Bernie supporters, I've discovered that the horseshoe principle is never more clearly proven than on DU.

If interested send me a PM.

I'll send you a PM to insure we are on the same page.

is not sauce for the gander. I was the sole juror to vote against an inappropriate Bernista posting. It must be remebered that, almost by definition, a random sample of 7 posters will have a disproportionate number of ultra-Bernistas.
There is a horrible sense of dej vu here speaking as a veteran of the '08 era; I still carry the scars! Things were so bad it was nicknamed 'Obama Underground'.
Is this a harbinger of what we can expect under Sanders presidency?
Here's hoping this post is not banned.

They want to silence us, and use right-wing-style smears to continually bash Hillary Clinton--the old one-two punch. How is this democratic and when is the press going to stop taking the bait?

Batten down the hatches!

Batten down the hatches indeed! There is hurricane whether ahead.

I find it very difficult to hold my tongue! I stick a smile on my face (like Chris Christie's wife does--so fake) and try to keep it pasted there for the duration of the event. When someone asks what I think, I do tell them, though--can't stop myself! I have lost friends that way, but I have to remind myself we really didn't have that much in common if they can't handle the fact that I am a democrat and I support Hillary Clinton!

Sorry for the hide, and Thank You for the warning.

Can we lobby Skinner or Elad on this? I'm sick of it.

... no response, but I never really expected one.

No help until the after the primaries:

Can anything be done about the abuse of the alert and jury processes?]

I hope that is not frowned upon. It's only because I fervently believe Bernie not electable especially against Trump. We are not that smart today. We are an angry and fearful people made so by the media.

I don't know what it's going to take to get the Bernie backers to support HRC come the general. Even I have considered not voting for the first time ever if Bernie is nominated. I believe he'll do far more harm than good given how the Congress is elected today and into 2018. He'll have maybe 10 allies in Congress. The law is the law. And Citizens United could become even more entrenched if he gets in. It's politics pure and simple.

Team?

I've been adamant from the get-go that I don't choose a Primary candidate until the day that I vote. As such, I don't specifically advocate for or against anyone but, rather, use this time to form an opinion which will ultimately determine my decision.

That's not to say that I can't or won't come to a determination prior to voting, but I usually stay agnostic. It happened in 2008, when I thoroughly disregarded John Edwards for obvious reasons. Nor do I consider all candidates equally. I summarily disregard the hundreds of attention-grabbing egomaniacs who pollute the process. I also dismiss from my consideration candidates, like Dennis Kucinich, who want to use the Primary process specifically to advance an agenda, with no real intention nor anticipation of winning the contest.

At the beginning of this election season, I had no problem regarding each of the candidates with parity. They individually presented strengths worthy of consideration. They also, individually, presented weaknesses worthy of pause. Collectively, I was comfortable that any of them would be sufficiently competent and that each of them was worthy of my vote.

Until today, I was still stubbornly undecided. I'm done with that. The attitudes expressed by what I've determined are the core of Sanders supporters has now reached a level of toxicity that bodes ill for the process going forward and I believe that the condescension, arrogance and, now, seething animosity is a strategy driven from the top. I knew people like Senator Sanders as a youth - their zeitgeist rhetoric belied a separatist mentality based not on egalitarianism but, rather, a self-centered, destructive antipathy cloaked in palatable language. Their "revolution" was not an attempt to advance progressive solutions but, instead, to simply tear down existing institutions, with no regard as to their utility nor interest in their improvement. I didn't want to cede influence to them then, and I certainly don't want to cede power to them now.

So yes, I'm now on your team. Where do I collect my toaster?

the reason for not hiding is members saying oh well, I've seen this before and if we hide this we'd have to hide all and that's impossible. Double standard again of course.

whether valid or not, to alert, could not be more obvious. Even their vicious attacks on President Obama did not seem to rise to this maniac level. They will have no one to blame but themselves when the ugly hatred and dirty tactics backfire on them. I guess all we can do is sit tight until the GE and Skinner and Elad work out a solution. Sorry, not much help.

I 'd rather fightbon my feet then sit on my ass.

it's disappointing but here's some good news ...mothers who have had children murdered by the state will be campaigning with HRC in South Carolina including Sandra Blands Mom...Reed -Veal

Every time Camp Sanders censors a pro-Clinton user, that user takes a -20% on their chance to serve on a jury themselves. So the longer this goes on, the more the jury pool tilts towards their side.