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Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 06:59 PM Feb 2016

I just want to make sure I have this straight (Hillary Group)

Clinton can't count on some of Bernie's supporters support if she wins the nomination, because she is taking their votes for granted/is a 3rd way oligachist/is cheating.

But it is assumed Clinton supporters will all just fall in line if he wins the nomination (Which most of us will, because we're not idiots).

That is a really weird headspace some people are occupying.

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I just want to make sure I have this straight (Hillary Group) (Original Post) Godhumor Feb 2016 OP
Of course we will vote for the Democratic candidate. Tommy2Tone Feb 2016 #1
And many of them won't because... Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #4
This is why super delegates were created Tommy2Tone Feb 2016 #25
Yep nt fun n serious Feb 2016 #36
Just an FYI basselope Feb 2016 #2
So that would make you... OilemFirchen Feb 2016 #3
I think that the correct term bravenak Feb 2016 #5
I wouldn't go that far. basselope Feb 2016 #7
You've made it clear you're not a Democrat. OilemFirchen Feb 2016 #17
Yeah, yeah yeah.. we know.. "corporate, establishment, oiligarch".. we know all the buzzwords.. not Cha Feb 2016 #20
And this is the problem with his candidacy Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #6
Go for it.. overturn the will of the majority and see how far that gets you. basselope Feb 2016 #8
I hope you feel the exact same way if Clinton is nominated by the will of the people Godhumor Feb 2016 #9
She will be the democratic nominee... basselope Feb 2016 #12
I'm sure you know your time in this group is short Godhumor Feb 2016 #16
Might be interesting to see how deep the shit-hole gets. n/t fleabiscuit Feb 2016 #28
LOL. So here's the brillant plan. "let's post in the Hillary group, and say if she is the nominee still_one Feb 2016 #32
Somehow, I doubt we'll miss you. kjones Feb 2016 #24
The majority of who? 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #10
The majority of people who participate in the democratic primary process. basselope Feb 2016 #13
Small d noted 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #14
Repeatedly. (n/t) OilemFirchen Feb 2016 #19
What majority? Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #18
If you only knew what you were talking about. William769 Feb 2016 #21
It'd be great. Cha Feb 2016 #23
I am scratching my head right now still_one Feb 2016 #33
You aren't the will of the majority. The Obama Coalition is. Cha Feb 2016 #22
Thank you, Cha! eom BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #37
No wonder the greens never get anywhere. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #31
Just an FYI jmowreader Feb 2016 #40
It's apathy that should get them banned from DU! Firebrand Gary Feb 2016 #11
I'm hoping it's just Primary Noise... DeadLetterOffice Feb 2016 #15
That is just a very small minority of Sanders supporters who are the loudest. Lil Missy Feb 2016 #26
Yeah, I was talking specifically about here on DU Godhumor Feb 2016 #27
So I guess the mass spamming of PP, NARAL, Al Franken, and other groups and individual's still_one Feb 2016 #30
Let me try to understand. When people and groups such as Lewis, Clyburn, PP, NARAL, and other still_one Feb 2016 #29
lets get smart ELI BOY 1950 Feb 2016 #34
I will vote for the Democratic Candidate in the general election Gothmog Feb 2016 #35
Im getting real tired of the mean non-Democratic Bernie Supporters - OhZone Feb 2016 #38
We the people, we who has the majority we will be voting for Hillary. Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #39
Weird Headspace peggysue2 Feb 2016 #41
agree mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #42
 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
2. Just an FYI
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 07:01 PM
Feb 2016

The reason Clinton doesn't get Sanders votes by default is b/c many of us are only coming back to the democratic party BECAUSE of Sanders.

If this is the party of Hillary Clinton, I will change my registration back to independent and likely vote green.

But, don't worry, I am in Cali so my vote doesn't matter.

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
7. I wouldn't go that far.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 07:08 PM
Feb 2016

I don't like to consider myself a democrat at all.

They have become much too corporate since the DLC and Bill Clinton.

However, I am more likely to vote for some of their candidates.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
17. You've made it clear you're not a Democrat.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 07:16 PM
Feb 2016

It's somehow comforting to read your admission that you don't like to consider yourself a democrat either. Likewise, I wouldn't want to consider you one.

Cha

(297,574 posts)
20. Yeah, yeah yeah.. we know.. "corporate, establishment, oiligarch".. we know all the buzzwords.. not
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 07:21 PM
Feb 2016

impressed. Totally lost their potency .. a few million repetitions ago.

Stuckinthebush

(10,847 posts)
6. And this is the problem with his candidacy
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 07:06 PM
Feb 2016

He is running for a nomination in the Democratic party but his supporters aren't Democrats and he isn't a Democrat.

The super delegates won't support him and the majority of Democrats will support the Democrat - Hillary Clinton. His nomination is dead on arrival.

still_one

(92,375 posts)
32. LOL. So here's the brillant plan. "let's post in the Hillary group, and say if she is the nominee
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 07:57 PM
Feb 2016

we won't vote for her. That way if Bernie does get the nomination, Hillary supporters will be so thrilled to vote for him in the GE"

yeah, logic 101, right?

A valid argument, whose conclusion is false.

Let's see how well that works out for them

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
15. I'm hoping it's just Primary Noise...
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 07:15 PM
Feb 2016

... from either side.
Once the convention is over, hopefully people will rediscover their inner Democrat and chill the hell out.

Lil Missy

(17,865 posts)
26. That is just a very small minority of Sanders supporters who are the loudest.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 07:38 PM
Feb 2016

Most will vote for the Democratic nominee.

I wouldn't worry about DU consensus. This (DU) is la-la land, not the real world.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
27. Yeah, I was talking specifically about here on DU
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 07:40 PM
Feb 2016

Not out there. No one out there ever used terms like 3rd way, oligarchy, etc, etc.

still_one

(92,375 posts)
30. So I guess the mass spamming of PP, NARAL, Al Franken, and other groups and individual's
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 07:49 PM
Feb 2016

Facebook pages who expressed support for Hillary, have no bearing how they would act if Hillary is the nominee

Good to know

still_one

(92,375 posts)
29. Let me try to understand. When people and groups such as Lewis, Clyburn, PP, NARAL, and other
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 07:46 PM
Feb 2016

individuals and groups are slammed because of their support of a particular candidate, those supporters and groups who have been treated in such an uncivil manner, may not have much enthusiasm for that "other" candidate in the general election.

Gee, I wonder why that would be........

ELI BOY 1950

(173 posts)
34. lets get smart
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:06 PM
Feb 2016

the idea that Bernie can win a general election is naive...i was at a school meeting earlier today with
people i have never met and when last nights debate came up terms like like Trotsky , Hitler and socialism came up...

i live in a blue state

we will win with hillary and loose with bernie

trust me

Gothmog

(145,502 posts)
35. I will vote for the Democratic Candidate in the general election
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 08:52 PM
Feb 2016

My money will go to candidates who I think can win

OhZone

(3,212 posts)
38. Im getting real tired of the mean non-Democratic Bernie Supporters -
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:27 PM
Feb 2016

So much hate and nastiness. If they aren't Democrats, then they were going to not vote or vote for some micro party to start with.

peggysue2

(10,839 posts)
41. Weird Headspace
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:15 PM
Feb 2016

For sure. We're suppose to ditch reality and rely on endless promises without specifics to back them up. We're suppose to chant the chant and drink the messaging that a political revolution is on the way that will sweep away the normal processes of how change in a Democratic Republic is actually accomplished, years of hard work and sweat. Because . . . Bernie Sanders has a magic wand to push all the obstacles away and will supply free milkshakes for life and pony rides. And free college, of course.

I get it. No thank you. My feet are planted on terra firm and I no more believe in Bernie's fairytales than I do Trump's bunk.

But please carry on with the fiction. And don't be shocked when the Great Vetting grinds into motion.

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