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CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 01:34 AM Feb 2016

The Day of Reconning Is Approaching

Everyone has to wake up sooner or later and dreams of magical unicorns have a tendency to evaporate in the cold clear light of reality every morning. For the Bernie Sanders campaign the wake up call has already been set and the phone is about to ring.

The Nevada caucuses, except for a poll by a Republican organization with questionable accuracy and polling methods, there is no recent poll data. The caucus process is so difficult to predict, the next poll is probably going the official caucus results on 2/20.

However, for those willing to spend a little time doing research, the probable outcome of 12 polls over four days starting 2/27 is pretty clear. Recently some new poll data has become available for quite a few of these 12 state primaries in it appears that the Bernie Sanders campaign is in deep and serious trouble going forward.

The following are the poll data from the most recent polls for those states:

2/27/16
South Caroline (50 delegates) - avg. 5 polls since 2/10/15 Clinton +21.2

3/1/16
Alabama (58 delegates) – no recent polls, compare to other southern states
American Samoa (10 delegates) – no recent polls
Arkansas (37 delegates) - poll -2/4/16 - Clinton +32
Colorado (77 delegates) – poll in November – Hillary +28
Georgia (112 delegates) – poll 2/4/16 – Hillary +41
Massachusetts (121 delegates) – poll in November – Hillary +25
Minnesota (94 delegates) – poll 1/20/16 – Hillary +34
Oklahoma (42 delegates) - poll 2/9/16 – Hillary +16
Tennessee (77 delegates) – poll in November – Hillary +20
Texas (237 delegates) – poll 1/26/16 – Hillary +34
Vermont (23 delegates) - no recent polls
Virginia (112 delegates) –poll 2/14 – Hillary +14

I have also gone though the available polls for the rest of the states on the primary and caucus calendars and Hillary way ahead in most and not behind in any state.

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The Day of Reconning Is Approaching (Original Post) CajunBlazer Feb 2016 OP
Really? I could have sworn he was winning in Colorado. bravenak Feb 2016 #1
Time is the arbiter of all things angstlessk Feb 2016 #2
Really, discard any poll Treant Feb 2016 #3
I agree that races tighten, but... CajunBlazer Feb 2016 #9
Vermont is an obvious Sanders pickup jmowreader Feb 2016 #4
Here are the target numbers. Chichiri Feb 2016 #5
Good info CajunBlazer Feb 2016 #8
Thanks for the info, delegate count is going Hillary's way. Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #6
Care Bears and Unicorns Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #7

Treant

(1,968 posts)
3. Really, discard any poll
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 01:53 AM
Feb 2016

before about January 15th--and discount the data from any more than a week before the primary or caucus.

Polls, and races, almost always tighten as a candidate gets exposure in the state. I expect Sanders to make an excellent showing in MA, and a good one in CO. I have Nevada currently set at a dead tie due to the lack of any real data (that tends to be my default for any state I'm not rather familiar with).

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
9. I agree that races tighten, but...
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 10:49 AM
Feb 2016

...they don't tighten 30% in three weeks. SC has tighten to the 18% to 22% range recently, but since then has remained rock steady.

One of the reason this entire race has tightened is because some people are hearing Bernie's message for the first time. The other big reason is momentum. I hate to say that because I would like to believe that momentum created by such atypical states as Iowa and NH would be meaningless to the average American voter, but apparently I was wrong.

However, the momentum is about to change - big time. It is very possible that Bernie could only win one state out of the next 12 or 13 and that would be his home state of Vermont which he is certainly expected to win. Bernie's numbers are increasing after he barely loss one state and won another by a large margin. What do you think is going to happen when people in the follow on states see that Bernie has lost say 11 states in a row and he was blown out in many.

Given a choice, you want the momentum later in a game, not earlier. Bernie may not win another state after that March 1st once people see that the "Revolution" is looking dead on arrival.

Chichiri

(4,667 posts)
5. Here are the target numbers.
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 02:28 AM
Feb 2016

The Cook Political report has released a scorecard, taking into account superdelegates and demographics, detailing how many delegates each candidate has to win to stay on track to tie for the nomination. (Right now Hillary is 7 delegates ahead of her target, and Bernie is 7 delegates behind.)

Nevada: Clinton 16, Sanders 19.

South Carolina: Clinton 28, Sanders 25.

Alabama: Clinton 28, Sanders 25.

American Samoa: Clinton 3, Sanders 3.

Arkansas: Clinton 15, Sanders 17.

Colorado: Clinton 30, Sanders 36.

Georgia: Clinton 53, Sanders 49.

Massachusetts: Clinton 35, Sanders 56.

Minnesota: Clinton 32, Sanders 45.

Oklahoma: Clinton 16, Sanders 22.

Tennessee: Clinton 30, Sanders 37.

Texas: Clinton 114, Sanders 108.

Vermont: Clinton 5, Sanders 11.

Virginia: Clinton 44, Sanders 51.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
8. Good info
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 10:27 AM
Feb 2016

It would be interesting to know how they came up with those numbers. However, if they are right, based on the Southern states alone, Sanders is in deep trouble. There is absolutely no way he is going to pull the number of delegates he needs in Virginia, Texas, Tennessee, Georgia, and Arkansas. Oklahoma and Colorado are also on the extremely difficult list for him.

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