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CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 12:41 PM Feb 2016

Nate Silver's new predictions for Nevada Caucus & SC Primary

FiveThirtyEight 2016 Primary Forecast Nevada

Hillary Clinton has a 69% chance of winning the Nevada caucuses.

Bernie Sanders has a 31% chance of winning the Nevada caucuses


FiveThirtyEight 2016 Primary Forecast Nevada

Hillary Clinton has a 99% chance of winning the South Carolina primary

Bernie Sanders has a 1% chance of winning the South Carolina primary

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Nate Silver's new predictions for Nevada Caucus & SC Primary (Original Post) CajunBlazer Feb 2016 OP
Good news! workinclasszero Feb 2016 #1
Yay!!! pandr32 Feb 2016 #2
New Hampshire and bust!!!!! GusBob Feb 2016 #3
In the next 2 weeks we should be able to aaaaaa5a Feb 2016 #4
If nothing else, Obama had the ability to offer up new topics of discussion stopbush Feb 2016 #10
Agreed. Hillary is right! aaaaaa5a Feb 2016 #16
Looks like it is a wrap after Super Tuesday! leftofcool Feb 2016 #5
A couple of months ago I predicted that after Super Tuesday (13 days from now) Clinton.... George II Feb 2016 #31
The beginning... yallerdawg Feb 2016 #6
Like I presciently posted before cosmicone Feb 2016 #7
In 08 Obama beat Hillary in delagates but lost the comradebillyboy Feb 2016 #8
I agree with that CajunBlazer Feb 2016 #11
I foresee Treant Feb 2016 #14
That was a different scenario aaaaaa5a Feb 2016 #21
Hillary got more votes in Nevada than Obama in 08 but comradebillyboy Feb 2016 #30
Earlier today - before the new 538 prediction came out - I predicted a HRC win in NV stopbush Feb 2016 #9
But remember, Silver would still be right if Hillry wins by only 1% CajunBlazer Feb 2016 #12
He'd be right Treant Feb 2016 #15
NV ain't Iowa, trust me. stopbush Feb 2016 #17
From your mouth Treant Feb 2016 #18
A near tie would be no big deal since it is a proportional state - they would split the 31 pledged.. George II Feb 2016 #20
The optics Treant Feb 2016 #27
As I said, having lived in LV, I do have a feel for the state. stopbush Feb 2016 #22
About one in six registered voters in Nevada are either union members or have family in unions.... George II Feb 2016 #24
Yes. And one would assume that that 1 in 6 number are mostly registered Dems. stopbush Feb 2016 #25
I'll take those predictions mcar Feb 2016 #13
Minor corrections - in South Carolina, a GREATER than 99% and LESS than 1%. George II Feb 2016 #19
Now you're just being mean Treant Feb 2016 #26
. George II Feb 2016 #28
Everyone keep your eye on the prize! aaaaaa5a Feb 2016 #23
K&R. Go Hillary! lunamagica Feb 2016 #29

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
3. New Hampshire and bust!!!!!
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 12:51 PM
Feb 2016

Great 1-state strategy for your "revolution" Need some ice for that burn?

Now it makes sense, all that wailing and flailing and teeth grinding over Iowa.

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
4. In the next 2 weeks we should be able to
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 12:56 PM
Feb 2016

Get this campaign back on track. Most of the SEC primary states look good too. We just have to worry about a few Midwest and northeast caucus states and we should be okay.



Through all the hoopla, we can't forget 2 essential facts.

1- Hillary Clinton is the overwhelming favorite to win the nomination. The upcoming states will prove this.

2-Bernie Sanders ain't no Barack Obama. He can't build the same coalition. Hillary's overwhelming support among African Americans proves this. You can't win the nomination with young people and first time independent voters alone. In the modern Democratic Party you can't win the nomination without minority support.

Sometimes we get lost on the difference between battles and wars. Sanders has won a single battle (New Hampshire). Hillary will win the war. (Delegates/Nomination.)

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
10. If nothing else, Obama had the ability to offer up new topics of discussion
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 01:55 PM
Feb 2016

once he got past the "Yes we can" mantra part of the campaign.

Bernie is stuck on the "Wall Street poisons everything!" meme. His message is getting stale, rapidly.

Expect those cheers at his rallies to turn into yawns before the Spring is out.

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
16. Agreed. Hillary is right!
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 02:09 PM
Feb 2016

Bernie is a 1 issue candidate.

Bernie what do you think about global warming?

Break up the banks!

Bernie what do you think about income inequality?

Break up the banks!

Bernie what do think about racism and sexism?

Break up the banks!

Bernie what do you think about ISIL, Syria, Russia and foreign policy?

Break up the banks!


Bernie what do you think about the wage gap?

Break up the banks!

Bernie what do you think about Planned Parenthood and medical privacy?

Break up the banks!

I could go on and on. Bernie is our version of Marco Rubio. It's the same rehearsed canned speech over and over again.

George II

(67,782 posts)
31. A couple of months ago I predicted that after Super Tuesday (13 days from now) Clinton....
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 04:01 PM
Feb 2016

....would have a lead of about 100 pledged delegates, no few than 80 delegate lead. At that point, his strongest states (IA, NH, VT, maybe NV) will have voted.

The talk always is "what is the path to victory"? Unfortunately for the Sanders campaign, there will be no path to victory once the Super Tuesday primaries are over.

The remaining questions will be by how many delegates will Clinton win and on what date Sanders will concede.

comradebillyboy

(10,175 posts)
8. In 08 Obama beat Hillary in delagates but lost the
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 01:48 PM
Feb 2016

popular vote. The same scenario could happen this year with Sanders on the short end of the delegates. Then the Sanders people will demand that the rules be retroactively changed. It would be fun to watch them piss and moan. Still the best result is Hillary wins both and goes on to roll over Bernie everywhere else.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
14. I foresee
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 02:05 PM
Feb 2016

that the popular vote issue won't be a problem. Florida, Texas, Pennsylvania, and smaller states like SC, TN, AK, AL, MI, and so on will carry her well over the top.

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
21. That was a different scenario
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 02:18 PM
Feb 2016

If I recall, Hillary's popular vote totals included Michigan and Florida. Those were 2 primaries that didn't count. Obama didn't campaign in either state because of party rules.

In addition, the Obama campaign held off at the very end of the primary season because they knew they had the nomination won. For example, Hillary won the last primary (South Dakota I believe) largely uncontested because the race for the nomination was already over.

These two factors padded her popular vote total, and even then it was very close (the numbers can always be disputed because of the ridiculous caucus system).

The point is 2008 was a once in a lifetime primary. I expect Hillary to win both the popular vote (if it's even possible to legitimately count) and the delegate race comfortably.

2016 belongs to Hillary!

comradebillyboy

(10,175 posts)
30. Hillary got more votes in Nevada than Obama in 08 but
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 03:52 PM
Feb 2016

delegates are apportioned by voting district. Obama tailored his campaign to maximize delegates, not raw votes.
http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/elections/how-delegates-are-apportioned

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
9. Earlier today - before the new 538 prediction came out - I predicted a HRC win in NV
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 01:52 PM
Feb 2016

by at least 5 points.

Maybe I was lowballing that number.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
15. He'd be right
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 02:06 PM
Feb 2016

if it's a photo finish of IA. Which, dear God, I hope not because I don't need to hear another week of whining about how Sanders actually won a state he lost.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
17. NV ain't Iowa, trust me.
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 02:12 PM
Feb 2016

HRC didn't have the advantage in Iowa of the union support she has in NV. I keep telling people how important that is, but not everyone is listening.

That alone will give her a YUGE advantage over BS.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
18. From your mouth
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 02:13 PM
Feb 2016

to the Caucus Gods' ears.

I have no feel for NV at all, so I'm calling it a near-tie. But I sure hope I'm under-calling it severely for Clinton.

George II

(67,782 posts)
20. A near tie would be no big deal since it is a proportional state - they would split the 31 pledged..
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 02:17 PM
Feb 2016

....delegates closely (16-15, 15-16 or thereabout) but Clinton would come out with more delegates since she has at least 3 of the Superdelegates.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
27. The optics
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 02:48 PM
Feb 2016

of a good, clear Clinton win in NV would be nice, though, and would stop the commentary post-NH.

Of course, she won't dominate in that state by anything like +20, so they'll still talk, but...the volume will go down a bit.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
22. As I said, having lived in LV, I do have a feel for the state.
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 02:21 PM
Feb 2016

I'm really not sweating this at all.

George II

(67,782 posts)
24. About one in six registered voters in Nevada are either union members or have family in unions....
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 02:25 PM
Feb 2016

....and 4% of the registered voters are in the Culinary union, the union that Sanders' campaign alienated two weeks ago.

Unions stick together AND they work hard for their candidates.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
25. Yes. And one would assume that that 1 in 6 number are mostly registered Dems.
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 02:28 PM
Feb 2016

This is a Dem caucus. You do need to be registered as a D to participate, though you can switch your party affiliation the day of any cross over to vote in the caucus.

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
23. Everyone keep your eye on the prize!
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 02:23 PM
Feb 2016

This is a delegate race. The way the Democrats tally delgates, we are already pretty much certain to split Nevada's delegates regardless of who finishes "technically" ahead. Big wins are what matters. This is why South Carolina is important.

At the end of Super Tuesday, Hillary will have a commanding delegate lead. And because delegates are awarded proportionately, it will be impossible for Bernie to catch up.

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