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Cha

(297,503 posts)
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:00 AM Feb 2016

DO NOT COME for Dolores Huerta if you have not been called.

meta
?@metaquest
DO NOT COME for Dolores Huerta if you have not been called.

Dolores Huerta
?@DoloresHuerta
I offered to translate & Bernie supporters chanted English only! We fought too long & hard to be silenced Si Se Puede! #ImwithHer #NVcaucus
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3:18 PM - 20 Feb 2016

Nancy LeTourneau ??@Smartypants60
To me, @DoloresHuerta is the Latina equivalent of MLK. If this is true - its completely disgusting. https://twitter.com/AmericaFerrera/status/701166307387928577

meta ??@metaquest
@Smartypants60 @DoloresHuerta As a leader w/Chavez, she is beloved and highly respected. This is indeed reprehensible & will reverberate.
12:22 PM - 20 Feb 2016 · San Francisco, CA, United States
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America Ferrera
✔ ??@AmericaFerrera
Harrah's casino site- Bernie supporters chant "English-only" to stop civil rights leader @DoloresHuerta from providing Spanish translation.
12:07 PM - 20 Feb 2016
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DO NOT COME for Dolores Huerta if you have not been called. (Original Post) Cha Feb 2016 OP
She went right under the bus. ucrdem Feb 2016 #1
But, what a way to go.. insisting she speak English? Who does that? Cha Feb 2016 #3
It was a great day for Democrats. ucrdem Feb 2016 #8
Awesome day for Reality, Si se Puede! Cha Feb 2016 #28
Good point. Sanders isn't going away so who knows what lies ahead. ucrdem Feb 2016 #32
I hear ya, ucr.. I'm very optimistic! And, right.. you don't diss Delores Huerta and expect Cha Feb 2016 #52
Sickening workinclasszero Feb 2016 #4
From the WaPo, working.. Delores Huertas' interview.. Cha Feb 2016 #54
Here's the video: the paranoia is so thick you can cut it with a knife. nolabear Feb 2016 #77
Who is left standing? sheshe2 Feb 2016 #10
La Hillary! ucrdem Feb 2016 #21
There's a diverse group under there but they're all for Hillary! Cha Feb 2016 #58
The twitter comments! bravenak Feb 2016 #2
So Sarandon is saying Delores Huerta can't believe her own ears? Cha Feb 2016 #7
Shes a naderite anywayz bravenak Feb 2016 #29
Yeah, of the "tweedledum and tweedledee" variety. Cha Feb 2016 #30
Here's the video with the "English only" phrase. brush Feb 2016 #48
Those videos back up Huerta obamanut2012 Feb 2016 #65
More insight from Wapo's interview with Delores Huertas, brave.. Cha Feb 2016 #56
It's disgusting how some Bernie supporters are trying to say that Dolores Huerta is lying. BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #5
She is a woman sheshe2 Feb 2016 #9
I know, sheshe, but it breaks my heart to see such a respected woman so badly treated BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #12
;( sheshe2 Feb 2016 #23
Including Susan Sarandon.. who does not have a good track record. Cha Feb 2016 #11
I love Sarandon as an actress but not so much as a political activist. After all, she voted Nader BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #17
She liked the "Tweedledum & Tweedledee" meme.. he took it from BS who said it first. Cha Feb 2016 #35
Well, I like Sarandon even less now. Don't hate her but close. Still, she's an exceptional actress. BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #46
I didn't see the Town Hall but good question for BS.. did he answer? Cha Feb 2016 #51
This is interesting, BlueCali, WaPo's interview with Delores Huerta.. gives more insight.. Cha Feb 2016 #55
Delores is in excellent company under that bus. She should be proud. Tarheel_Dem Feb 2016 #6
Obama too sheshe2 Feb 2016 #13
LOVE that picture of our president embracing the legend in our Congress! OMG! Feeling real BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #19
Sometimes it makes me cry. sheshe2 Feb 2016 #33
{{{Hugs}}} Sheshe. I know how you feel. And you've got a great big wonderful heart! BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #45
Heartbreaker sheshe2 Feb 2016 #50
I love that image She! Tarheel_Dem Feb 2016 #25
Thanks Tarheel. sheshe2 Feb 2016 #79
Si se Puede, she.. Gracias for the stunning pic of the President and John Lewis. Cha Feb 2016 #53
Well... sheshe2 Feb 2016 #80
Fantastic picture wysi Feb 2016 #78
Dolores enid602 Feb 2016 #14
That's just SSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOO wrong. I guess Delores is "establishment" now, and deserves.... Tarheel_Dem Feb 2016 #26
Si se Puede, Tarheel! Cha Feb 2016 #15
I have lost so much respect for Sarandon, and apparently so has Hollywood. Message to Susan: Tarheel_Dem Feb 2016 #22
Clue me in.. what does that mean? Cha Feb 2016 #37
Simply put, it means "take your ass somewhere, and sit the hell down". Tarheel_Dem Feb 2016 #39
Gracias! I just didn't know if it were some movie reference I didn't get. Cha Feb 2016 #42
I think she's where the whole "uterus" language got started. Very bad form for her. Tarheel_Dem Feb 2016 #49
Bwahahahhahahahhaha! sheshe2 Feb 2016 #81
Let us speak of old photos from days gone by . . . They still resonate deep within me - NBachers Feb 2016 #16
Beautiful photos, NBachers. Thanks so much for sharing! Looking at them made my heart BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #18
and made a lump swell in my throat NBachers Feb 2016 #20
I can relate! Makes me want to go back in time... BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #27
Awesome photos. Thanks for that. n/t Tarheel_Dem Feb 2016 #24
ooooh sheshe2 Feb 2016 #34
OH WOW.. Gracias NBachers! Amazing! Cha Feb 2016 #38
I keep coming back to look at them over and over- their impact is stronger each time. Mythical NBachers Feb 2016 #40
It is "Mythical" when you realize what they've acheived over the years.. they are hero/heroine Cha Feb 2016 #47
The lizard brain reaction against women and poc gwheezie Feb 2016 #31
... sheshe2 Feb 2016 #36
+1 betsuni Feb 2016 #43
And a Big REC... riversedge Feb 2016 #41
Gracias, rivers! Wapo's interview with Delores Huertas.. Cha Feb 2016 #57
K&R betsuni Feb 2016 #44
I stand with Dolores Huerta. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #59
Gracias, Starry! Beautiful pics then and now~ Cha Feb 2016 #60
The Bernie Rules 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #61
Hey, you nailed it once again, DejaVu Cha Feb 2016 #62
K&R! stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #63
Gracias, stonecutter! Cha Feb 2016 #70
K&R! DemonGoddess Feb 2016 #64
Huerta nails it in this comment from the WAPO article: brer cat Feb 2016 #66
That's the money quote, brer cat.. Gracias for bringing it over. I had forgotten about it Cha Feb 2016 #67
This seems a blemish for the Sanders camp. Welcoming everyone is one of the things that makes us De riversedge Feb 2016 #68
Gracias for that article rivers.. Delores Huerta knows what she saw and heard.. she has a stellar Cha Feb 2016 #69
What a sad chapter in DU's history mcar Feb 2016 #71
The latest sad chapter of the majority, mcar.. my money is on Cha Feb 2016 #72
I stand with her too mcar Feb 2016 #73
I can only imagine.. that place is infested with hate. Cha Feb 2016 #74
Kick for Delores Huerta~ Cha Feb 2016 #75
It is a shame to disrespect someone who has worked for those who has a history of Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #76
their MO is to desrespect everyone who isn't one of them.. they're their own worst enemies. Cha Feb 2016 #83
Well said, just destructive. Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #84
People like Susan UtahLib Feb 2016 #82
Very true. n/t DesertRat Feb 2016 #85

Cha

(297,503 posts)
3. But, what a way to go.. insisting she speak English? Who does that?
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:08 AM
Feb 2016

Gracias ucrdem.. good to see you!

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
8. It was a great day for Democrats.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:17 AM
Feb 2016

I suppose this will drag on for another 10 days to Super Tuesday, probably longer since Bernie's collected a sizable warchest, but for all intents and purposes the primary is over.

Whew!

Cha

(297,503 posts)
28. Awesome day for Reality, Si se Puede!
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:43 AM
Feb 2016

It's down to that.

I don't say it's over till it's over.. I'm funny that way.

But, we won Nevada!




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ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
32. Good point. Sanders isn't going away so who knows what lies ahead.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:00 AM
Feb 2016

Still I'm taking the optimistic view of the Huerta contretemps which is it's swan song of the Sanders campaign.

I was going to use a more colorful term but never mind.

Cha

(297,503 posts)
52. I hear ya, ucr.. I'm very optimistic! And, right.. you don't diss Delores Huerta and expect
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 04:46 AM
Feb 2016

Latinos the country over not to take notice.

Is she #soestablishement, too, like John Lewis, Sherrod Brown, and James Clyburn? All under the bus dwellers in their myopic view?

Gracias!

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
4. Sickening
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:09 AM
Feb 2016

Why does the Sanders campaign have so much bile for icons of the civil rights movement?

I don't get it.

Cha

(297,503 posts)
54. From the WaPo, working.. Delores Huertas' interview..
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 05:34 AM
Feb 2016
Dolores Huerta says she was shouted down with ‘English-only’ chants from a Sanders crowd

snip//

Two sources — both of whom are neutral and not affiliated with the Sanders or Clinton campaigns — told BuzzFeed News that it happened the way Huerta described.


snip//

Well, something just happened in Las Vegas that might really and truly challenge that. Dolores Huerta, longtime civil rights and farm-labor activist as well as a confidant of the late Cesar Chavez, tweeted this Saturday night from a Nevada caucus location:

And unfortunately for Sanders's supporters, there's video that at the very least backs up Huerta's claims that there was an awful lot of shouting and hissing while she was on stage at a Nevada caucus location. A caucus organizer had called for an interpreter willing to explain the process and latest updates to Spanish-speaking or Spanish-dominant caucusgoers. Huerta, clad in a Clinton campaign t-shirt, volunteered.

You can see in the video up above that wasn't so well received. Some sanders supporters may have been disturbed by the idea of a Clinton supporter interpreting events for the entire crowd. But, that alone can not explain all that Huerta said she heard from the crowd.

"It was mostly the organizers," Huerta continued, "the Bernie organizers were shouting 'no no no.' Then a Bernie person stood up and said said no, we need to have it, I can also do translation or whatever. The person who ran the caucus said, well we won’t have a translator. The sad thing about this is that some of the organizers were shouting 'English only! English only!' The Bernie organizers."

snip//

Now, Huerta is a woman in her mid-80s. So any kind of shouting or hissing required a special kind of temerity to begin with. But for those not in the know, Huerta is about as close to a living legend in Latino civil rights circles and labor activism as they come.

MOre~ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/20/dolores-huerta-says-she-was-shouted-down-with-english-only-chants-from-a-sanders-crowd/



nolabear

(41,990 posts)
77. Here's the video: the paranoia is so thick you can cut it with a knife.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 10:17 PM
Feb 2016

Whether they chanted "English only" or not, the clear message was that they did not want her speaking Spanish for fear she wouldn't translate honestly and would "sneak in" some pro Hlllary speech. The moderator says as much.

This is an incredibly paranoid crowd.





Cha

(297,503 posts)
7. So Sarandon is saying Delores Huerta can't believe her own ears?
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:16 AM
Feb 2016

Delores Huerta doesn't lie.. that's the other side's MO.

It's been verified anyway.. and besides.. the berns don't have a good track record including SS herself.


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obamanut2012

(26,094 posts)
65. Those videos back up Huerta
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 09:29 AM
Feb 2016

Especially the third one. And, it's disgraceful no Spanish translation was allowed by anyone.

Cha

(297,503 posts)
56. More insight from Wapo's interview with Delores Huertas, brave..
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 05:41 AM
Feb 2016
Dolores Huerta says she was shouted down with ‘English-only’ chants from a Sanders crowd

snip//

Two sources — both of whom are neutral and not affiliated with the Sanders or Clinton campaigns — told BuzzFeed News that it happened the way Huerta described.


snip//

Well, something just happened in Las Vegas that might really and truly challenge that. Dolores Huerta, longtime civil rights and farm-labor activist as well as a confidant of the late Cesar Chavez, tweeted this Saturday night from a Nevada caucus location:

And unfortunately for Sanders's supporters, there's video that at the very least backs up Huerta's claims that there was an awful lot of shouting and hissing while she was on stage at a Nevada caucus location. A caucus organizer had called for an interpreter willing to explain the process and latest updates to Spanish-speaking or Spanish-dominant caucusgoers. Huerta, clad in a Clinton campaign t-shirt, volunteered.

You can see in the video up above that wasn't so well received. Some sanders supporters may have been disturbed by the idea of a Clinton supporter interpreting events for the entire crowd. But, that alone can not explain all that Huerta said she heard from the crowd.

"It was mostly the organizers," Huerta continued, "the Bernie organizers were shouting 'no no no.' Then a Bernie person stood up and said said no, we need to have it, I can also do translation or whatever. The person who ran the caucus said, well we won’t have a translator. The sad thing about this is that some of the organizers were shouting 'English only! English only!' The Bernie organizers."

snip//

Now, Huerta is a woman in her mid-80s. So any kind of shouting or hissing required a special kind of temerity to begin with. But for those not in the know, Huerta is about as close to a living legend in Latino civil rights circles and labor activism as they come.

MOre~ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/20/dolores-huerta-says-she-was-shouted-down-with-english-only-chants-from-a-sanders-crowd/

Gracias~



BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
5. It's disgusting how some Bernie supporters are trying to say that Dolores Huerta is lying.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:10 AM
Feb 2016

They do NOT believe she was denigrated and simply made it up.

This is not good for Bernie. He needs to come out and tell those obnoxious supporters that they need to stop trying to paint Huerta as a liar.

sheshe2

(83,846 posts)
9. She is a woman
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:19 AM
Feb 2016

and a minority, she won't be supported.

All I will say without a hide. I will just let it fester inside me and weep.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
12. I know, sheshe, but it breaks my heart to see such a respected woman so badly treated
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:24 AM
Feb 2016

by people who profess to support Sanders. Good thing she's a fighter, like Hillary.

Cha

(297,503 posts)
11. Including Susan Sarandon.. who does not have a good track record.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:22 AM
Feb 2016
Susan Sarandon ?@SusanSarandon · 4h4 hours ago

.@AmericaFerrera I was there. Nobody frm Bernie's side said English only. Moderator did when no neutral translator was found@DoloresHuerta

Haha.. BS lost.. your remarks about "lady parts" didn't save the day, Susan.


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BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
17. I love Sarandon as an actress but not so much as a political activist. After all, she voted Nader
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:31 AM
Feb 2016

and what person in their right mind would vote for a guy for president who's never been elected to office in his entire life??

Cha

(297,503 posts)
35. She liked the "Tweedledum & Tweedledee" meme.. he took it from BS who said it first.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:17 AM
Feb 2016

I have no respect for her now.. zero.. not after her trying to reduce Hilary to her lady parts.

It's disgusting .. she and killermike.

On a HAPPY Note..


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BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
46. Well, I like Sarandon even less now. Don't hate her but close. Still, she's an exceptional actress.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:59 AM
Feb 2016

Too bad her political instincts are so out of whack!

About that beautiful image...that girl in the eggplant-colored dress...wasn't she in the audience in the townhall on Thursday night? The one who asked Bernie a very pertinent question about why he voted against the 2007 comprehensive immigration reform bill?

That picture just makes me grin from ear to ear! Thanks so much for sharing, Cha!

Cha

(297,503 posts)
51. I didn't see the Town Hall but good question for BS.. did he answer?
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 04:28 AM
Feb 2016

I don't hate her either.

I have too much love to give for people who keep it together..






BlueCali~

Cha

(297,503 posts)
55. This is interesting, BlueCali, WaPo's interview with Delores Huerta.. gives more insight..
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 05:39 AM
Feb 2016
Dolores Huerta says she was shouted down with ‘English-only’ chants from a Sanders crowd

snip//

Two sources — both of whom are neutral and not affiliated with the Sanders or Clinton campaigns — told BuzzFeed News that it happened the way Huerta described.

snip//

Well, something just happened in Las Vegas that might really and truly challenge that. Dolores Huerta, longtime civil rights and farm-labor activist as well as a confidant of the late Cesar Chavez, tweeted this Saturday night from a Nevada caucus location:

And unfortunately for Sanders's supporters, there's video that at the very least backs up Huerta's claims that there was an awful lot of shouting and hissing while she was on stage at a Nevada caucus location. A caucus organizer had called for an interpreter willing to explain the process and latest updates to Spanish-speaking or Spanish-dominant caucusgoers. Huerta, clad in a Clinton campaign t-shirt, volunteered.

You can see in the video up above that wasn't so well received. Some sanders supporters may have been disturbed by the idea of a Clinton supporter interpreting events for the entire crowd. But, that alone can not explain all that Huerta said she heard from the crowd.

"It was mostly the organizers," Huerta continued, "the Bernie organizers were shouting 'no no no.' Then a Bernie person stood up and said said no, we need to have it, I can also do translation or whatever. The person who ran the caucus said, well we won’t have a translator. The sad thing about this is that some of the organizers were shouting 'English only! English only!' The Bernie organizers."

snip//

Now, Huerta is a woman in her mid-80s. So any kind of shouting or hissing required a special kind of temerity to begin with. But for those not in the know, Huerta is about as close to a living legend in Latino civil rights circles and labor activism as they come.

MOre~ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/20/dolores-huerta-says-she-was-shouted-down-with-english-only-chants-from-a-sanders-crowd/

Gracias,


Tarheel_Dem

(31,237 posts)
6. Delores is in excellent company under that bus. She should be proud.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:14 AM
Feb 2016






These two have been called "race hustlers", and that won't be forgotten quickly. I can't presume to speak for the Latino community, but I don't think they'll take kindly to the mistreatment of one of their heroes either.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
19. LOVE that picture of our president embracing the legend in our Congress! OMG! Feeling real
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:34 AM
Feb 2016

warm and fuzzy!

sheshe2

(83,846 posts)
33. Sometimes it makes me cry.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:10 AM
Feb 2016

Sometimes it brings a smile to my face. So much love respect and history in that image. Have I ever told you that I love this President? He is the best in my lifetime.

Love you.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
45. {{{Hugs}}} Sheshe. I know how you feel. And you've got a great big wonderful heart!
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:56 AM
Feb 2016

No, you've never told me that you loved this president, but I could tell from your previous posts. I love him, too, she. He's, hands down, the best president of my lifetime, too.

Love you back.

sheshe2

(83,846 posts)
50. Heartbreaker
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 04:24 AM
Feb 2016


http://www.democraticunderground.com/110232952

A touch

I have posted images of his hands before...

Safe Hands

He has kept us safe



http://www.democraticunderground.com/110218166He has kept us safe.

I don't want him to go Blue.

Sorry, I an weepy tonight.

Hugs, gotta sleep.

Cha

(297,503 posts)
53. Si se Puede, she.. Gracias for the stunning pic of the President and John Lewis.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 04:51 AM
Feb 2016

Their love is palpable.. they throw John Lewis, President Obama, Delores Huerta, ETC.. under their damn bus at their won peril.

sheshe2

(83,846 posts)
80. Well...
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 11:05 PM
Feb 2016

Look who got tossed there, the best and the brightest, the strongest people that have always led this country forward. They think they tossed us under said bus. They are so silly, they tossed us in the bus not under it. Guess who is driving that bus forward, we are.

Remember the old Greyhound Bus Commercial? "Go Greyhound and leave the driving to us." 'Cause Cha we are moving forward.

enid602

(8,642 posts)
14. Dolores
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:27 AM
Feb 2016

And one who will be 85 next month!

BTW, I looked at the very short video of the incident on you tube. It starts out with a lot of commotion, with Dolores saying 'Pero necesitamos el espanol.' Then another Latina takes the Mike and says 'It's Dolores Huerta, my goodness.' A man says something like calm down, everyone. Clearly, she was interrupted and treated disrespectfully.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,237 posts)
26. That's just SSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOO wrong. I guess Delores is "establishment" now, and deserves....
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:41 AM
Feb 2016

to be treated disrespectfully by those who don't even know who she is.

Cha

(297,503 posts)
15. Si se Puede, Tarheel!
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:28 AM
Feb 2016

Susan Sarandon got on twitter and basically called America Ferrera a liar..

https://twitter.com/AmericaFerrera/status/701166307387928577

Did you see all the number of tweets that Delores and America sent out about this?! They don't make shite up.. the other side does.


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Cha

(297,503 posts)
42. Gracias! I just didn't know if it were some movie reference I didn't get.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:43 AM
Feb 2016

She could be for BS but she didn't have to get so silly about it.

NBachers

(17,133 posts)
16. Let us speak of old photos from days gone by . . . They still resonate deep within me -
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:30 AM
Feb 2016




Let us mourn what has been lost, and know that the struggle continues.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
18. Beautiful photos, NBachers. Thanks so much for sharing! Looking at them made my heart
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:33 AM
Feb 2016

swell with nostalgia and pride.

NBachers

(17,133 posts)
40. I keep coming back to look at them over and over- their impact is stronger each time. Mythical
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:31 AM
Feb 2016

But I can't help an affectionate chuckle when I see Bobby- he looks so . . . Kennedy . . .

Cha

(297,503 posts)
47. It is "Mythical" when you realize what they've acheived over the years.. they are hero/heroine
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 04:00 AM
Feb 2016

icons for Worker's Rights.

Yes, Bobby.. so Kennedy

Gracias~NBachers~

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
31. The lizard brain reaction against women and poc
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:59 AM
Feb 2016

From true progressives of all people is astounding. Attack, attack, attack to defend their candidate. Believe the white people
Huerta heard what she heard, there are people who back her story. The video proves nothing, it's noisey with people shouting, can't hear every word, I will give sarandon the benefit of the doubt she didn't give Huerta and perhaps she wasn't close enough to hear everything. It's disgusting. The elite progressives are whittling away at their allies, at what cost and for what? Or who?
Now I've read several threads from Bernie supporters that young people don't fall for racial divisions. How fucking tone deaf can they be? Look at blm, or maybe they don't count because some white progressives will shut their eyes to racism rather than admit their guy and liberals in general have failed to address racism. There are fucking racial divisions in this country for gods sake, saying young people only want to talk about race when it makes them feel good is just continuing that pathological white guilt that has pushed the problem deeper in our psyche without addressing it head on. To call civil rights leaders liars, corporate shills, in the tank, too stypid, too manipulated too corrupt to know who to support or know what they heard is the lowest of low. How dare they.
I'm sick of it, of for fucks sake, I'm sick of it.

sheshe2

(83,846 posts)
36. ...
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:17 AM
Feb 2016
"From true progressives of all people is astounding. Attack, attack, attack to defend their candidate. Believe the white people
Huerta heard what she heard, there are people who back her story. "


Progressives.......

Cha

(297,503 posts)
57. Gracias, rivers! Wapo's interview with Delores Huertas..
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 05:42 AM
Feb 2016
Dolores Huerta says she was shouted down with ‘English-only’ chants from a Sanders crowd

snip//

Two sources — both of whom are neutral and not affiliated with the Sanders or Clinton campaigns — told BuzzFeed News that it happened the way Huerta described.

snip//

Well, something just happened in Las Vegas that might really and truly challenge that. Dolores Huerta, longtime civil rights and farm-labor activist as well as a confidant of the late Cesar Chavez, tweeted this Saturday night from a Nevada caucus location:

And unfortunately for Sanders's supporters, there's video that at the very least backs up Huerta's claims that there was an awful lot of shouting and hissing while she was on stage at a Nevada caucus location. A caucus organizer had called for an interpreter willing to explain the process and latest updates to Spanish-speaking or Spanish-dominant caucusgoers. Huerta, clad in a Clinton campaign t-shirt, volunteered.

You can see in the video up above that wasn't so well received. Some sanders supporters may have been disturbed by the idea of a Clinton supporter interpreting events for the entire crowd. But, that alone can not explain all that Huerta said she heard from the crowd.

"It was mostly the organizers," Huerta continued, "the Bernie organizers were shouting 'no no no.' Then a Bernie person stood up and said said no, we need to have it, I can also do translation or whatever. The person who ran the caucus said, well we won’t have a translator. The sad thing about this is that some of the organizers were shouting 'English only! English only!' The Bernie organizers."

snip//

Now, Huerta is a woman in her mid-80s. So any kind of shouting or hissing required a special kind of temerity to begin with. But for those not in the know, Huerta is about as close to a living legend in Latino civil rights circles and labor activism as they come.

MOre~ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/20/dolores-huerta-says-she-was-shouted-down-with-english-only-chants-from-a-sanders-crowd/



Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
59. I stand with Dolores Huerta.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 06:39 AM
Feb 2016


My pic of her from last year (September, not November, my memory is getting shocking.)

Latina/Latino millennial students in the crowd who had just learned about her in their history class were there and were completely galvanized to participate in political struggles on hearing her call to them.



Si se puede.

Cha

(297,503 posts)
60. Gracias, Starry! Beautiful pics then and now~
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 06:45 AM
Feb 2016


Just saw this.. It didn't happen.


Jennifer Palmieri ??@jmpalmieri
Yeah. Reporting Hispanic precincts have @HillaryClinton up by 20. Yeah this doesn't appear to be the case. pic.twitter.com/FnQ0Ow6vEy"
5:19 PM - 20 Feb 2016
148 148 Retweets 148 148 likes

The Obama Diary!http://theobamadiary.com/2016/02/20/obamaandkids-a-global-smile-fest/

Guess who the "myth" is?

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
61. The Bernie Rules
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 06:48 AM
Feb 2016

If you march with King, you are above reproach for the rest of your life.

If you march with Chavez, fuck you, you're a liar.

Cha

(297,503 posts)
62. Hey, you nailed it once again, DejaVu
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 06:49 AM
Feb 2016

Just saw this.. It didn't happen.


Jennifer Palmieri ??@jmpalmieri
Yeah. Reporting Hispanic precincts have @HillaryClinton up by 20. Yeah this doesn't appear to be the case. pic.twitter.com/FnQ0Ow6vEy"
5:19 PM - 20 Feb 2016
148 148 Retweets 148 148 likes

The Obama Diary!http://theobamadiary.com/2016/02/20/obamaandkids-a-global-smile-fest/

Guess who the "myth" is?

brer cat

(24,591 posts)
66. Huerta nails it in this comment from the WAPO article:
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 09:59 AM
Feb 2016
She views it as a reflection of the way that Sanders's supporters are opting to engage in the primary process.

"It’s kind of a crash-and-burn strategy. If we can’t have it our way then we can’t have it at all," Huerta said. "I think that definitely Mr. Sanders should talk to his people. They are very aggressive, they are very belligerent in all our encounters that we’ve had with them. I think he needs to talk to his people and say you’ve got to show some respect. Its not about attacking the other side, it’s about getting our message out to people. Even when we go against Republicans, we need to be respectful."


I am appalled and dismayed that some democrats (!) would be so vile that they would debase and disrespect the greatest icons of our civil rights movements. What is "progressive" about literally taking a dump on the giants, the most respected elders, of not just our party but our nation? It makes me weep.

Thank you for the thread, Cha, as depressing as it is.

Cha

(297,503 posts)
67. That's the money quote, brer cat.. Gracias for bringing it over. I had forgotten about it
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 10:14 AM
Feb 2016

with everything else going on. Delores Huerta is very sharp.. it gets to the very crux of the matter.

"It’s kind of a crash-and-burn strategy. If we can’t have it our way then we can’t have it at all," Huerta said. "I think that definitely Mr. Sanders should talk to his people. They are very aggressive, they are very belligerent in all our encounters that we’ve had with them. I think he needs to talk to his people and say you’ve got to show some respect. Its not about attacking the other side, it’s about getting our message out to people. Even when we go against Republicans, we need to be respectful."

Oh great, berni, now Delores Huerta has your number. So much for the bros getting the upper hand @ the Nevada Caucuses.

I don't think this is going away.. not with his fans trying to smear this workers' rights icon like they did John Lewis. I'm sure that's not going over well in South Carolina and Georgia, either.

riversedge

(70,272 posts)
68. This seems a blemish for the Sanders camp. Welcoming everyone is one of the things that makes us De
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 10:55 AM
Feb 2016



Ray Lawson
?@Lawsonbulk

This seems a blemish for the Sanders camp. Welcoming everyone is one of the things that makes us Dems http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/02/20/3751830/dolores-huerta-interview/

Cha

(297,503 posts)
69. Gracias for that article rivers.. Delores Huerta knows what she saw and heard.. she has a stellar
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 11:04 AM
Feb 2016

reputation.. the bernbros don't.

This interview with the WaPo has good insight..

Dolores Huerta says she was shouted down with ‘English-only’ chants from a Sanders crowd

snip//

Two sources — both of whom are neutral and not affiliated with the Sanders or Clinton campaigns — told BuzzFeed News that it happened the way Huerta described.


snip//

Well, something just happened in Las Vegas that might really and truly challenge that. Dolores Huerta, longtime civil rights and farm-labor activist as well as a confidant of the late Cesar Chavez, tweeted this Saturday night from a Nevada caucus location:

And unfortunately for Sanders's supporters, there's video that at the very least backs up Huerta's claims that there was an awful lot of shouting and hissing while she was on stage at a Nevada caucus location. A caucus organizer had called for an interpreter willing to explain the process and latest updates to Spanish-speaking or Spanish-dominant caucusgoers. Huerta, clad in a Clinton campaign t-shirt, volunteered.

You can see in the video up above that wasn't so well received. Some sanders supporters may have been disturbed by the idea of a Clinton supporter interpreting events for the entire crowd. But, that alone can not explain all that Huerta said she heard from the crowd.

"It was mostly the organizers," Huerta continued, "the Bernie organizers were shouting 'no no no.' Then a Bernie person stood up and said said no, we need to have it, I can also do translation or whatever. The person who ran the caucus said, well we won’t have a translator. The sad thing about this is that some of the organizers were shouting 'English only! English only!' The Bernie organizers."

snip//

Now, Huerta is a woman in her mid-80s. So any kind of shouting or hissing required a special kind of temerity to begin with. But for those not in the know, Huerta is about as close to a living legend in Latino civil rights circles and labor activism as they come.

end snip//

"It’s kind of a crash-and-burn strategy. If we can’t have it our way then we can’t have it at all," Huerta said. "I think that definitely Mr. Sanders should talk to his people. They are very aggressive, they are very belligerent in all our encounters that we’ve had with them. I think he needs to talk to his people and say you’ve got to show some respect. Its not about attacking the other side, it’s about getting our message out to people. Even when we go against Republicans, we need to be respectful."

MOre~ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/20/dolores-huerta-says-she-was-shouted-down-with-english-only-chants-from-a-sanders-crowd/





Cha

(297,503 posts)
72. The latest sad chapter of the majority, mcar.. my money is on
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:42 PM
Feb 2016

Delores Huerta.. not berni sanders.

Gracias~ We WON!


Hillary Clinton Verified account 
?@HillaryClinton
The feeling is mutual, Nevada.


mcar~

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
76. It is a shame to disrespect someone who has worked for those who has a history of
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:36 PM
Feb 2016

leading groups who has and still has lots of discrimination by yelling anything while she is speaking, it doesn't matter what language they are speaking. Yes, she is supporting Hillary, doesn't mean she should be respected.

Cha

(297,503 posts)
83. their MO is to desrespect everyone who isn't one of them.. they're their own worst enemies.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 02:11 AM
Feb 2016

my money is on Delores Huerta, Thinkingabout.

Gracias!

UtahLib

(3,179 posts)
82. People like Susan
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 01:50 AM
Feb 2016

don't seem to realize that they are revealing the ugly underbelly of the Sander's campaign.

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