Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumI see several threads where supporters are saying BS won the Latino vote in NV
based on erroneous "entrance polls" rather than looking at where the actual votes came from:
Hillary Clinton won the Nevada Democratic caucuses on Saturday. She did so thanks largely to her strength in Clark County the home of Las Vegas, and the most heavily Latino part of the state.
That's important to note, because entrance polls showed Bernie Sanders winning among Latino voters by a shockingly wide margin...
But what we do know of the official voting results broken down by caucus site and by region indicates that Hillary Clinton won the parts of Nevada that are most heavily Latino.
The most heavily Latino county in the state Clark County was Clinton's stronghold. With two-thirds of its precincts reporting, Clinton had a 10-point margin over Sanders much wider than either candidates' margin of victory elsewhere in the state.
And Clinton swept the at-large "casino caucuses" in Las Vegas attended by the heavily-Latino workforce on the Strip.
http://www.vox.com/2016/2/20/11079660/latinos-nevada-sanders
Treant
(1,968 posts)then Clinton seriously overperformed on the white vote in NV.
They can't have it both ways, that's the racial divide in NV. So either Clinton doesn't have a Latino advantage, or Bernie's white advantage doesn't exist. Pick one.
'Cause, as we all know by now, Clinton won NV by quite a nice margin.
Cha
(297,503 posts)The coalition Hillary won Nevada with:
1. African-Americans.
Hillarys Nevada result with the African-American voters was 76% to 22%. Turnout from African-Americans was 13%, not that much of a drop from 2008 when this groups turnout was 15%.
2. Obama folks.
People who want to continue Obamas policies, strengthen them and making them better, not go into a different direction.
That segment was 49% of the Nevada electorate. Hillary won this segment 74% to 22%.
3. Women.
Women turned out in large numbers for Hillary. Women made up 56% of the Nevada electorate. Hillary won the women vote 57% to 41%, a huge gap. While Bernie won the male vote, the gap was a lot smaller, almost half the gap that Hillary was able to get with women.
4. Hispanics.
Early projections among Hispanics have turned out to be wrong. It appears that Hillary has won the Hispanic vote by double digits, based on strong numbers out of Clark County. Hillary appears to have won Hispanics in Nevada by double-digits.
5. Older voters.
Young voters were mostly with Bernie, but they didnt turn out. Only 18% of the Nevada electorate were voters between 18 and 29 years of age. Another 17% was the age group between 30 and 44 years of age. However, 35% of Nevada voters were from 45 to 64 years of age, and 31% of Nevada voters were 65 and over. That 31% of 65 and over voters is strongly better than what Nevada saw in 2008.
Hillary got 74% from voters age 65 and higher, and 61% from voters age 45 through 64.
Bernie won young voters, but they didnt turn out in the ways the older voters did.
6. Democrats
Its our party. Actual DEMOCRATS strongly support Hillary. Among registered Democrats Hillary won 57% to 41%. Actual Democratic party voters took the race away from Bernie today.
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MrWendel~http://www.democraticunderground.com/110751549
livetohike
(22,157 posts)Cha
(297,503 posts)in reality.
Gracias, livetohike~ Has its rewards though.
George II
(67,782 posts)...that the young people are supporting Sanders. Clinton supporters have countered with, "yes, but they have to go out and vote, and we doubt they will". That premise is borne out in your #5 above.
The other thing we've seen from some critics of the various polls is that the demographics were too skewed toward older voters, and I've responded that those age breakdowns were representative of voters, not simply supporters.
Cha
(297,503 posts)many issues that concern older voters.
5. Older voters.
Young voters were mostly with Bernie, but they didnt turn out. Only 18% of the Nevada electorate were voters between 18 and 29 years of age. Another 17% was the age group between 30 and 44 years of age. However, 35% of Nevada voters were from 45 to 64 years of age, and 31% of Nevada voters were 65 and over. That 31% of 65 and over voters is strongly better than what Nevada saw in 2008.
Where the hell were they? Why couldn't the bros get them to the caucus rooms?
George II
(67,782 posts)Cane4Dems
(305 posts)they just don't like looking at facts. Anything that is against their candidate they just claim it is false- mirroring the behavior of republicans (reminds me of how Romney people completely misjudged their support with this same type of thinking)
I used to be on the fence a few weeks ago (I even wrote a post about it) but now I am 100% in Clinton's camp.
I hope she can wrap up the nomination quickly so that she can start to focus on the general election when the rethugs are going to begin an assault on her and bill Clinton with probably 1 billion dollars in the bank.
Cha
(297,503 posts)Gracias~
George II
(67,782 posts)....for people to listen to the various supporters and then decide while IN the caucus!
The more I seen in this campaign, the more dumbfounded I become with the lack of knowledge and political "savvy" of the so-called pundits and experts.
BlueMTexpat
(15,370 posts)stopbush
(24,396 posts)RW voters in general are pre-disposed to falling for propaganda. The Big Lie technique is particularly effective - the bigger the lie, the more believeable the lie. Just look at DU since yesterday. Every shred of possible anti-Clinton smear is treated as a documented fact and run with, trumpeted to the high heavens. It's not enough to have one thread per smear. No. There must be 4, 5 threads spouting the same nonsense. Once the lie is out there, they cling to it like a rabid dog hugging a bone. No correction, no new information, no nuance later provided will shake them from the big lie initially told.
We are dealing with zealots here. Zealots who are blinded by 1. Their want of free stuff that Bernie has convinced them they are entitled to, simply through the accident of their birth, and 2. Hatred of the person or persons they think will deny them their free stuff (Hillary, the establishment, anybody over the age of 30, etc). This is about an old socialist appealing to a generation that has never had it better in many respects, but who feel that they have in their short life times dealt with more abuse and faced more challenges than people three times their age. These are people who are so self-absorbed that they view an old civil rights figure having his head bashed in as being no more of an assault on personal freedom than their not having the funds to upgrade to the latest iPhone.
This revolution can't die quickly enough as far as I'm concerned.
DavidDvorkin
(19,481 posts)still_one
(92,338 posts)"Latino Voters Delivered Some Good News For Democrats In Nevada
We might not know whether Latinos favored Clinton or Sanders, but their participation levels bode well for a Democratic nominee.
Hillary Clinton easily bested Bernie Sanders in the Nevada Democratic caucuses on Saturday. But whether that was thanks to Latino voters -- or in spite of them -- isn't clear.
That's because of contradictory results from the event. Entrance polls found that 53 percent of Latinos were supporting Sen. Sanders (I-Vt.), compared to 45 percent supporting former Secretary of State Clinton. But Clinton won caucuses in heavily Latino areas, casting doubt on whether the polling presented an accurate picture of how Latinos voted.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/latino-vote-nevada-caucus_us_56c79a0fe4b041136f170fbc
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Unfortunately, it looks like we will never know for sure, but it only make sense that she got the majority of Latinos