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comradebillyboy

(10,148 posts)
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:06 PM Mar 2016

Salon Throws Elizabeth Warren Under the Bus

Thanks for nothing, Elizabeth Warren: How the Democratic Party’s rock star missed her chance, hurt the progressive agenda
The appetite was there for a truly progressive candidate to topple the Clinton machine. That candidate did not run
Michael Garofalo

"Elizabeth Warren could have been the biggest political story of 2016. Well, at least, the biggest story other than Donald Trump. Right now, she could have been coasting toward a Super Tuesday landslide and locking up the Democratic nomination. It doesn’t take a wild imagination to picture it.

Instead, Warren is nowhere to be found, unless you’re a Democratic donor on the receiving end of DNC email blasts signed by the Massachusetts senator. Raising money like this — or lending her name to these emails — might be her biggest contribution to the Democrats in the 2016 cycle. And unfortunately, that’s why Super Tuesday is likely to seal the nomination for Hillary Clinton tonight."

http://www.salon.com/2016/03/01/thanks_for_nothing_elizabeth_warren_how_the_democratic_partys_rock_star_missed_her_chance_hurt_the_progressive_agenda/

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Salon Throws Elizabeth Warren Under the Bus (Original Post) comradebillyboy Mar 2016 OP
Not much room left under there sharp_stick Mar 2016 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2016 #11
And now they have to make room ... NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #21
Maybe Senator Warren is like a lot of Democrats. yallerdawg Mar 2016 #2
I'm one of those Democrats. BlueCaliDem Mar 2016 #8
So if Bernie loses, it's all BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #3
Well they have to find a reason besides their candidate KitSileya Mar 2016 #4
I've noticed that. charlyvi Mar 2016 #20
they have to blame someone dlwickham Mar 2016 #13
Rumor is that not long after today's primary win by Clinton, Warren will endorse her. George II Mar 2016 #5
OH Clinton /Warren 2016 please Please please!! HillareeeHillaraah Mar 2016 #6
Bernsters have already swarmed her so she has nothing to lose with them pandr32 Mar 2016 #7
It could very well be that Warren wanted to endorse Bernie Sanders, but that, after seeing how his BlueCaliDem Mar 2016 #9
Salon... MrWendel Mar 2016 #10
YUP... Historic NY Mar 2016 #14
Yup, it's Elizabeth Warren folks misterhighwasted Mar 2016 #12
Michael Garofalo, I admire your acting, so I want to dedicate this song. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #15
Who Needs Rush Limbaugh? otohara Mar 2016 #16
Apparently Bernies appeal couldn't stand on it's own, and needed Warren to prop it up? kjones Mar 2016 #17
If I may… fleabiscuit Mar 2016 #18
Elizabeth Warren has far more to gain Loki Mar 2016 #19

Response to sharp_stick (Reply #1)

NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
21. And now they have to make room ...
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 09:49 PM
Mar 2016

... for entire states to fit under that damned bus.

They've been trying to wedge SC in since Saturday to make room for tonight's states - ya know, the other states that we should ignore because they don't matter.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
8. I'm one of those Democrats.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:44 PM
Mar 2016

I'll vote for a true-blue Democrat before I waste my vote on another DINO.

But Hillary is just a FAR better candidate than any running on either side. She's got what it takes to take this country further than President Obama has already done (which is already impressive!), and we're all going to do so well under her leadership and political savvy. After all, she's married to the Democrat who brought us peace, prosperity, 22 million jobs, and higher wages, and I'm certain she'll do even better than him.

I'm so excited!

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
4. Well they have to find a reason besides their candidate
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:18 PM
Mar 2016

They'll let him stay in the bus until he endorses Hillary, and then he goes under the bus too - and they'll share the blame.

charlyvi

(6,537 posts)
20. I've noticed that.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:47 PM
Mar 2016

It's never, ever Bernie's fault. I'm getting very tired of that. Very tired. Bernie can never fail, it's just everyone else failing Bernie.

dlwickham

(3,316 posts)
13. they have to blame someone
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:10 PM
Mar 2016

can't blame Sanders because he's their messiah and you certainly can't blame the bernbros

 

HillareeeHillaraah

(685 posts)
6. OH Clinton /Warren 2016 please Please please!!
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:41 PM
Mar 2016

What a powerful ticket that'd be. And I think it would begin to heal the fractures in the party.

A girl can dream...but I'd settle for an endorsement

pandr32

(11,584 posts)
7. Bernsters have already swarmed her so she has nothing to lose with them
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:43 PM
Mar 2016

...and she did urge Sec. Clinton to run in the first place. It would make sense for her to endorse the winning candidate as well. I hope your referred to "rumor" is correct.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
9. It could very well be that Warren wanted to endorse Bernie Sanders, but that, after seeing how his
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 12:51 PM
Mar 2016

supporters treated Hillary, her supporters, and most importantly, her colleagues in both the Senate and the U.S. House, she decided to switch to Hillary but didn't want to be hurled under the bus this early in the game. I have no doubt she'll endorse Hillary Clinton soon since she's got nothing to lose now. Not that it matters to me. I was more interested if Rep. Elijah Cummings, Jim Clyburn, John Lewis, and above all, President Barack Obama would endorse - and I'm happy as can be that they've all come to Hillary's side...although PBO still has to officially endorse, but we all know who he prefers, thanks to Jay Carney.

"I don't think there is any doubt that he wants Hillary to win the nomination and believes that she would be the best candidate in the fall and the most effective as president in carrying forward what he's achieved," said Carney, a CNN contributor.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
15. Michael Garofalo, I admire your acting, so I want to dedicate this song.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:43 PM
Mar 2016


Please go back to playing the Hulk, or acting in light romantic comedies, because you rant against Warren is ridiculous and shows a lack of knowledge in history and the American reality. Warren is a Progressive Rockstar, a true liberal, a brilliant woman, and a great Senator. Even if she had supported Sanders, she would not have saved him.

It is the rank and file of the Democratic Party's big tent that is rejecting Sanders.
 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
16. Who Needs Rush Limbaugh?
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 01:46 PM
Mar 2016

When you've got Salon demonizing Hillary on a daily basis - sometimes as many as three columns are devoted to trashing Hillary, then their articles are passed on to other sites like AlterNet.

kjones

(1,053 posts)
17. Apparently Bernies appeal couldn't stand on it's own, and needed Warren to prop it up?
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:01 PM
Mar 2016

Or they're disappointed that they had to settle for Bernie instead of Warren?
Or that they really don't care, and just wanted anyone who they thought
could beat Hillary?


Oh, I actually went to the top of the full link and got the answer...
"The appetite was there for a truly progressive candidate to topple the
Clinton machine. That candidate did not run."


So I guess, it was anyone but Clinton...Warren first choice...Bernie was
a settle.

So isn't this kind of....actually throwing both Warren AND Bernie under
the bus?

Like, what in the hell???

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)
18. If I may…
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:11 PM
Mar 2016

Humbly suggest an article. This is NOT a hatchet job and provides a view I believe we should all ponder.
———

Sorry, Dreamers: It’s Time to Say Goodbye to Bernie Sanders

An elegy for a man too decent for the job.
BY T.A. FRANK

“…How was Sanders parochial? Simply put, he cared a lot about our increasingly rigged economy—and it is a doozy—but only that. Presidents must show much interest in other things, especially global affairs, which they handle nonstop. That’s a major component of Clinton’s pitch for herself: that she can manage a dangerous world. She represents a “muscular” foreign policy, which is a nice way of saying she’s happy to pull out the guns. Now, that’s not necessarily the best or safest stance. Many Democrats would prefer a less interventionist foreign policy. But Sanders was a limp champion of such an alternative. He stressed that he had voted "No" to authorizing force in Iraq, but he never offered much of a worldview to explain the decision, which meant that it was hard to tell what framework he might bring to future decisions. Clinton’s vulnerability stayed mostly unexploited…”

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/02/time-to-say-goodbye-to-bernie-sanders

Loki

(3,825 posts)
19. Elizabeth Warren has far more to gain
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 02:20 PM
Mar 2016

by endorsing the Democratic Candidate for President when that is decided. She is a smart woman, and will probably be the next woman to occupy the White House. Yes, that would be the answer to my prayers.

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