Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forum7%. Don't forget, 7% (HRC Group)
This is my own analysis, so no blue links here.
Anyway, exit data shows that 3% of the Democratic primary voters were Republicans while 7% of Republican primary voters were Democrats. And this points to "strategic" voting backfiring horribly.
"Strategic" voting is when, in open primary states, voters purposely cross to the other side to vote for the candidate they feel will be easiest to beat. The only time it is advised to strategically vote is when your real primary looks like such a sure thing it won't hurt anything by voting the other side.
7%.
7% crossed over, and it is almost an ironclad guarantee that the vast majority were Clinton voters who thought Michigan was in the bag thanks to the the double digit leads in polling.
7% in a race where we lost by how much again?
So, this is really, really simple. If you're in an open primary state, until the nomination is secure or beyond reach, ignore polling, ignore the temptation to go vote for Trump to give Clinton an easier path, and pull the lever for HRC.
Pretend every race is a horserace and dead even, because 7%. Don't be a part of the 7% in a race decided by much, much less.
yardwork
(61,651 posts)Trump is going to appeal to a certain type of Democrat, unfortunately.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)but read an article where people mentioned they were voting strategically in Michigan.. I posted a thread about one.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/03/09/1498595/-Never-Piss-in-Someone-Else-s-Pool
There are many reasons probably and articles coming out with more info like 538:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-the-polls-missed-bernie-sanders-michigan-upset/
Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)crossed over to vote for Trump because they think he is a softer target in the GE. It did not help in their primary but we will overcome.
displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)Pay no attention to the headline. Scroll down to the graph on who cross-voted:
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/3/9/1498102/-Abbreviated-Pundit-Round-up-The-day-after-Tuesday-a-big-win-for-Bernie
Had this been a closed primary, BS would have been obliterated.
UtahLib
(3,179 posts)PM Martin
(2,660 posts)These things should be open to the respective partisans only.
Pathwalker
(6,598 posts)The Republican administration, run by Snyder was totally shocked! Shocked! I tell you by the level of participation in this primary, and so they ran out of ballots. Some precincts simply sent voters away, while others, like Lansing found copiers and began copying ballots so the people could vote. There was record turnout because for the first time in quite a while, Michigan's voice mattered, and people wanted to be heard. But Synder's administration - and that includes the S.O.S. can't even handle a primary election.
cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)They are in Texas.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)good to know!
cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)If the parties run the primaries then it would be the parties fault if they were low on ballets, wouldn't it? This is not an attack on Hillary, just a question.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)She never said he was her friend. She said that he praised her well organized Sec of State office. She is a very thorough kinda person. He had the same job before so he knew something about that.
In the real world people have to deal with all kinds of people. There is no luxury to be pure when the world out there is full of crazies.
cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)If you want to talk about a post I made elsewhere post there. I'm not going to take your bait.
charlyvi
(6,537 posts)for what it's worth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_primary
State and local governments run the primary elections, while caucuses are private events that are directly run by the political parties themselves.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)not from Michigan so don't know the answer.
Hillary's Group is awesome!
With her! Trust her!!!
Pathwalker
(6,598 posts)that the SOS office prints the ballots, distributes them to the counties, which then disperse them to the local voting places. The polling places are run by locals of both parties. The spokesperson on TV apologized on behalf of the SOS's office, stating that they had underestimated the level of participation. Every station at my voting station has a Democrat AND a Republican at every table. I don't know if this is statewide, or just a local thing, because we don't trust each other.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)"A total of 1,322,742 voters participated in the Republican primary, while 1,193,169 voted in the Democratic primary."
http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2016/03/2016_michigan_primary_voter_tu.html
A difference of more than 100,000 voters!
Difference between HRC and BS was less than 20,000 people.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)7% of 1,322,742 Republican votes is 92,591 votes.
The difference between BS and HRC was 18,427 votes.