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Alfresco

(1,698 posts)
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 04:23 AM Mar 2016

Latin Times - Bernie Sanders Stumbles On Fidel Castro Question In Miami

http://www.latintimes.com/democratic-debate-bernie-sanders-stumbles-fidel-castro-question-miami-374005
By Cedar Attanasio | Mar 10 2016, 12:08AM EST

Is this Bernie Sander’s “David Duke” moment? When asked to differentiate his brand of social from the communist leader Fidel Castro, Sanders had little to say. The Univision/CNN/Facebook debate featured video of then Mayor Sanders explaining why he believed the Cuban people had not staged an insurrection against Cuba, and why then President Ronald Reagan was wrong to think that Nicaraguans would do the same against the leftist government there. “They had forgotten that he educated their kids, gave them health care,” he said in the video, adding that the Castros had “totally transformed their society” but also qualifying his statement “You know, not to say that Fidel Castro or Cuba are perfect, they are certainly not.”

“In South Florida there are still open wounds among some exiles regarding socialism and communism. So please explain what is the difference between the socialism that you profess and the socialism in Nicaragua, Cuba and Venezuela,” Univision anchor María Elena Salinas asked.

Sanders got two chances to divorce his “democratic socialist” label from 1960s Cuban communism. At first he focused on the failures of U.S. intervention in Latin America, and historical support for regime change towards brutal dictatorships. But he didn’t really answer the question. Then the moderator gave him another shot.
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Not unlike the time that Donald Trump hesitated to “disavow” David Duke while his opponents call him racist, Sanders failed to distance himself sharply from Fidel Castro while his critics call him a communist. No worse a place could he have lobbed the flub than in South Florida, in Miami, about a five-minute walk from Freedom Tower, the Ellis Island of Cubans fleeing the Castro regime.


Bernie Sanders refused to disavow his past support for Fidel Castro.
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Alfresco

(1,698 posts)
6. I doubt he comes back to SoFl to campaign. He will be crushed here on the 15th.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 05:05 AM
Mar 2016

Michigan was a quirk. His chances for the nomination will be mathematically impossible after the 15th.

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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
11. I suspect there's still an abiding affection for Che and other radicals deep in the Bern's
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 07:17 AM
Mar 2016

heart of hearts. He will be constantly called out on this philosophical affinity if he ever makes it to the GE.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
5. So who gets more praise.. Fidel Castro or President Barack Obama?
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 05:01 AM
Mar 2016

Did he even acknowledge Obama's historical new relations with Cuba now?

Gracias Alfresco~

Alfresco

(1,698 posts)
7. Hey Cha,
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 05:26 AM
Mar 2016

I didn't watch the debate. I doubt you will see Bernie praising the POTUS anytime soon.. It will upset his core constituency.

pandr32

(11,588 posts)
14. Well, he does try to say they are friends now
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:43 PM
Mar 2016

He got slammed for his criticisms of Obama before--Obama is so popular. He now makes it seem that they are BFFs now.

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
13. He did and it was weird.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:31 PM
Mar 2016

As with a couple of other things, he made two directly contradictory statements. After sticking with his comments about the so-called great education and healthcare and ponies (okay, I added that), he later said that opening the borders to the U.S. will finally give Cubans the life "they deserve". Not that this will get any scrutiny. Nothing he says ever does. At least not yet. If he makes it to the GE, it will get ugly fast.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
10. The US's recent rapprochement with Cuba notwithstanding, Bern will NEVER be able
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 07:13 AM
Mar 2016

to distance himself from his very vocal support of radical Latino revolutionaries. THIS IS HIS KRYPTONITE!

It's not so much that 21st century Americans are still susceptible to red-baiting, but they will NOT forgive even the suggestion of betrayal.

And, his doctrinaire support of these regimes will be seen as such.

pandr32

(11,588 posts)
15. Yep--not so democratic socialist after all
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:45 PM
Mar 2016

He would justify sacrificing civil liberties for health care and education in a heartbeat.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
12. I don't think this helps him
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:11 PM
Mar 2016

with any constituency that has had direct or indirect experience with an actual revolution, or is here because of a revolution.

I think we can safely downgrade his performance through the southwest and in Florida by a bit, and more if this gets some play in the media (good luck with that).

Plus that much hoped-for landslide in California just went by the wayside.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
18. This wariness about "revolution" was discussed on Al Sharpton's recent MSNBC show:
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 01:35 PM
Mar 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/110765264

Millions of Latinos themselves (or their family members) "LEFT THEIR COUNTRIES OF ORIGIN TO ESCAPE REVOLUTION OR UNSTABLE GOVERNMENTS" and do not care to relive that here.

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