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LAS14

(13,783 posts)
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 04:10 PM Mar 2016

What's it like in a caucus?

Especially one in which the results are dominated by Sanders? Why does he have an edge in caucus states?

- Of course there's the demographic issue. Maybe caucuses are held in low population states with fewer minorities.

- Do far left democrats gravitate toward such states?

- In the caucus is a persuasive case made to vote for Sanders to keep his message strong, even if you want Hillary in the White House? The argument being that she'll be the nominiee anyway?

- Are people persuaded within the walls of the caucus for any reason?

- Is there some factor that keeps older Hillary voters home in larger numbers?

Any replies will be appreciated. I'm just curious.

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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. As I understand caucusi (?), you are subjected to "persuasive" efforts. I would
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 04:17 PM
Mar 2016

not want to be subjected to rabid Sanders' supporters tactics. I think secret ballots are preferred, but I suppose States have a right to select their process.

MFM008

(19,818 posts)
7. yeah, one Sanders guy
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 04:20 PM
Mar 2016

tried to change the rules to get rid of Super delegates. Didn't work. Sanders people were pretty aggressive

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. It suppresses the older voters and the disabled voters, we are better than tbis.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 04:18 PM
Mar 2016

I hope those in charge thinks the suppression portion before 2020.

Satch59

(1,353 posts)
11. Agree...no absentee ballots...
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 04:26 PM
Mar 2016

And they are held in a confusing way where you need to be shuffled all over the place, not easy for the elderly (and certainly the disabled) and that you need to stay there for at least 2hrs.

I caucused in CO and each side was respectful in trying to sway voters over to their side but I could see how some crazy BS'ers could cause some trouble...

Caucuses should be stopped, mostly on disenfranchisement issues.

MFM008

(19,818 posts)
4. ghastly
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 04:18 PM
Mar 2016

Local High School (my son graduated from)

It was packed like Costco 3 days before Christmas. Bodies producing heat big time, oh and odors. Kids running all over. No one could HEAR a thing hardly. You sign a paper that states your choice, and really the whole process revolves around the undecided. First 2 were for HRC then 2 switched to Sanders, yes they are lobbied heavily.
Then they count the votes. we were 36 Sanders 34 Hillary. They turned away voters for coming late. They were for HRC. 4 voters for her were turned away. Most HRC voters were over 40, but it was mixed.
Then you pick delegates for the local party to send to state convention to send to the national convention.
My sons girlfriend was one of 3 picked for Hillary.
Thank God I brought water and a hand fan.
There it is.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,201 posts)
10. Interesting
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 04:25 PM
Mar 2016

There was one person late at mine. They took their registration which had their preference. But their vote did not count.

pandr32

(11,614 posts)
16. I noted the two who you saw who switched to Sanders
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 11:00 AM
Mar 2016

I think this must have happened a lot during the high-pressure "arguments" period. My caucus was at a middle school and it was unpleasant as you describe. It was also way too pro-Bernie and intimidating for Hillary supporters. I doubt anyone switched from Bernie to Hillary--would have faced way too much hostility.
Glad you stuck it out and a big high-five to your son's girlfriend!

Treant

(1,968 posts)
5. It takes time
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 04:19 PM
Mar 2016

So the attendees tend to tilt younger, with no physical infirmities. If you're an old person with bladder issues, a caucus would not be the place for you. Young children? Find childcare or stay home.

Fortunately, in WA's case you can vote absentee if you meet their standards. About 35,000 people did.

MFM008

(19,818 posts)
9. I came in with a walker
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 04:22 PM
Mar 2016

had surgery on my foot last week, I had no problem even as packed as it was.
Kids were all over. They weren't the problem, it was all the talking and yelling by adults.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,201 posts)
6. Per the Sanders people in my caucus
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 04:20 PM
Mar 2016

Found them more polite than the ones on DU. Of course the anonymity of the internet might be the cause of rudeness. Harder to be an ass to someone's face.

The argument most raised by the Sanders supporters today was he's more electable than Hillary. Polls so far really haven't born that out.

Chichiri

(4,667 posts)
12. Here in Minnesota, you didn't actually have to attend the caucus session.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 04:29 PM
Mar 2016

You could if you wanted, but you could also just register, fill out your preference ballot, and leave. (Except that you had to wait about 2 hours. Largely outside. In winter. In Minnesota.)

And yes, the people I waited in line with were mostly young people, and hence mostly Sanders people, but they were mostly really cool people. (Again, that might be a Minnesota thing.)

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
14. I caucused for Hillary in Seattle today. Caucus is Greek for "clusterfuck."
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 06:40 PM
Mar 2016

This is NOT anyone's fault. I was a vote counter, Mr. Bear was PCO, a really smart, capable you man was in charge of our precinct, and two other men also tallied and kept track of the paperwork.

And it took ALL we had to keep things straight. People handed in paper with their first choice and, if they held onto them until after comments pro and con were given, after they'd changed their vote (none did). Then delegates and alternates were voted on after comments. And we tried very hard to have accurate tallies, which we ultimately did, but one vote disappeared between the preliminary and final votes, the young man in charge disqualified himself as a delegate (pure accident; he was great but just made a mistake) by letting his paper go home with his tired girlfriend, it was incredibly hard to hear comments in our crowded gymnasium with many precinct groups crowded together trying to talk, and frankly everyone was nervous as a cat trying to be sure no one (i.e. Bernie supporters) could accuse us of deliberate wrongdoing.

That said it was fun and very exciting. And I'm proud of my neighbors (with a couple of really rageful exceptions on Bernie's side) for working like hell to make democracy work. And all of us wish to hell we had a primary.

Cha

(297,665 posts)
15. Aww.. Mahalo for your report from Seattle, nolabear.. & all you did for Democracy @ work..
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 02:16 AM
Mar 2016

We had a Preferential Poll in Hawaii.. like Arizona but.. and a very big "But".. anyone could register as a Dem today to vote for BS.. and they did.

I felt like I was in the Twilight Zone and the only one voting for reality.. hope that's the last time they get to vote for him.

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