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Walk away

(9,494 posts)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 06:52 PM Mar 2016

How do I really feel about Bernie Sanders, his campaign and Hillary Clinton our future POTUS....

Last edited Tue Mar 29, 2016, 07:20 PM - Edit history (1)

It's amazing to me that the "Progressive Millennials" have entrusted their "Revolution" to Bernie Sanders. He has been one of the most uninspiring and ineffective revolutionaries imaginable during his decades of lackluster service. Naming post offices is a poor lead up to changing the world.

I almost feel sorry for his small group of hardcore followers. In November the election is over and the media will go on to the next shiny object to dangle in front of the Most Easily Led. The lion's share of Bernie's followers will move on leaving his loyal Naderites and Lefty Libertarians to mourn the loss of their revolutionary dreams. Thankfully, a woman who has decades of experience, knowledge and service will be taking over the presidency from the remarkable Barack Obama.

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How do I really feel about Bernie Sanders, his campaign and Hillary Clinton our future POTUS.... (Original Post) Walk away Mar 2016 OP
That is simple for me. I love Hillary and can't stand Sanders anymore. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #1
OMG is it bad that I pretty much feel and do the same thing kydo Mar 2016 #7
He was being interviewed a little while ago by Erin Burnett, I switched to "Wheel of Fortune".... George II Mar 2016 #13
he has nothing new to say. it's the same old DesertFlower Mar 2016 #29
Me too bravenak Mar 2016 #33
Me too. katmille Mar 2016 #41
Hillary Clinton is competent to be president NastyRiffraff Mar 2016 #2
Bernie Sanders makes me puke. n/t cosmicone Mar 2016 #3
Me Too! otohara Mar 2016 #18
Me too Iamaartist Mar 2016 #46
Love your gif! BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #55
The funny thing - I remember him being a lot more pragmatic when he was on sweetloukillbot Mar 2016 #74
+1 bravenak Mar 2016 #21
A Facebook friend of a friend nailed it perfectly 72DejaVu Mar 2016 #4
Bingo! LisaM Mar 2016 #5
Hah! This is it exactly! The narcissim is textbook! synergie Mar 2016 #9
Or he's that guy running the neighborhood homeowners association. n/t pnwmom Mar 2016 #10
OMG that's IT!! NastyRiffraff Mar 2016 #14
Aggghhh! You took me right there! Walk away Mar 2016 #17
I was lucky not to have an association in my neighborhood. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #67
nailed it! redstateblues Mar 2016 #52
You may have hit it. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #68
LOL ^^^^^^ Loki Mar 2016 #72
"He" lives next door to me. MADem Mar 2016 #75
LOL. pnwmom Apr 2016 #80
The same bastard that won't let me park in front of my own condo, claiming it's his spot! kerry-is-my-prez Apr 2016 #79
LOL bravenak Mar 2016 #23
OMG - you nailed it. DURHAM D Mar 2016 #39
The PAID deflectors in his campaign The Paid fun n serious Mar 2016 #6
That part is saddening bravenak Mar 2016 #22
Yes, and Sanders only released 1 year of his taxes. What is he hiding? fun n serious Mar 2016 #25
Is this all true? bravenak Mar 2016 #27
Yes it is. fun n serious Mar 2016 #28
This is why he calls for transcripts bravenak Mar 2016 #30
I hope so. I think it's coming before New York. fun n serious Mar 2016 #31
Here is a link fun n serious Mar 2016 #32
I see bravenak Mar 2016 #35
Very possible Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #34
Right. Not believable. fun n serious Mar 2016 #38
And they forget that Clinton is taking it easy on him by not mentioning any of this. CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #60
I think it's time to start to really vett him. fun n serious Mar 2016 #61
#ReleaseYourTaxesBernie nt CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #62
Yes! 1 year is not enough. nt fun n serious Mar 2016 #64
So, looking at that return DemonGoddess Mar 2016 #63
Odd isn't it? fun n serious Mar 2016 #65
Well I posted that to Facebook. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #69
Thank you! nt fun n serious Mar 2016 #70
WAIT WAIT WAIT KittyWampus Mar 2016 #37
The first two would be Censored! Cha Mar 2016 #8
I'm for Hillary mcar Mar 2016 #11
Hillary will make a good president treestar Mar 2016 #12
He'll help her!!! Walk away Mar 2016 #26
I can't watch him anymore either. fun n serious Mar 2016 #15
K&R brer cat Mar 2016 #16
KnR sheshe2 Mar 2016 #19
I feel sorry for them too. bravenak Mar 2016 #20
K&R. nt UtahLib Mar 2016 #24
K&R! DemonGoddess Mar 2016 #36
he's Ron Paul wilt the stilt Mar 2016 #40
So does that make Susan Sarandon... Walk away Mar 2016 #42
bwahahahaha DemonGoddess Mar 2016 #43
I actually think... JSup Mar 2016 #45
I can't stand him. NurseJackie Mar 2016 #44
Kick & recommended. William769 Mar 2016 #47
Thank you, Walk away! Cha Mar 2016 #48
Thank you for this post. murielm99 Mar 2016 #49
I read some history...trying to assertain what makes Bernie tick Sheepshank Mar 2016 #50
I'm a hippie that eventually had to grow up redstateblues Mar 2016 #54
The sound of Bernie's voice makes me physically ill redstateblues Mar 2016 #51
KICK! DemonGoddess Mar 2016 #53
Bernie is a Sanctimonious Blatherer who is ideologically rigid and intellectually inflexible. kennetha Mar 2016 #56
Berns is a delusion kid who believes Dawson Leery Mar 2016 #57
About a month ago the scene from "The Way We Were" came to mind... KittyWampus Mar 2016 #59
+1,000,000 Dawson Leery Mar 2016 #77
Bernie is disingenuous and nauseating n/t cosmicone Mar 2016 #58
Perfectly stated! pandr32 Mar 2016 #66
Sanders is nothing special. creon Mar 2016 #71
Remember reading about HRC giving a recent speech for The Brookings Institution? fleabiscuit Mar 2016 #73
Yeah the bullying Legends303 Mar 2016 #76
Feel good about Hillary SharonClark Mar 2016 #78
She's just much better equipt for the job. shadowandblossom Apr 2016 #81
 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
1. That is simple for me. I love Hillary and can't stand Sanders anymore.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 06:56 PM
Mar 2016

I turn the TV off when I see him.

George II

(67,782 posts)
13. He was being interviewed a little while ago by Erin Burnett, I switched to "Wheel of Fortune"....
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:16 PM
Mar 2016

...(appropriate switch!)

katmille

(213 posts)
41. Me too.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:48 PM
Mar 2016

I just turned to husband when MSNBC announced Wednesday night lineup of back-to-back interviews with Hillary and Bernie, and said, "I'll watch Hillary, but not Bernie." I'm done with him. I know his song and dance and I'm so tired of his negative campaign. People talk about holding their noses and voting, well, that's exactly how I would vote for Bernie if, by some crazy turn of events he got the nomination.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
2. Hillary Clinton is competent to be president
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 06:59 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie Sanders is not.

I know that sounds lukewarm; I actually think Hillary will make a great president, and Sanders an awful one.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
18. Me Too!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:35 PM
Mar 2016


I used to listen to him every Friday and then came the primary talk and he never said he was disappointed - just millions of Americans were, he never said who that "somebody" was he wanted to primary the president, but it was clear he was that somebody but didn't have the balls to come out and say it.

sweetloukillbot

(11,089 posts)
74. The funny thing - I remember him being a lot more pragmatic when he was on
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 06:05 PM
Mar 2016

At least before 2008. I guess it's easier to be pragmatic when you're in the minority.

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
4. A Facebook friend of a friend nailed it perfectly
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 07:19 PM
Mar 2016

I will try to paraphrase her as closely as possible/ She said:

When we were in college we all knew that one guy who always thought he knew more than anyone else, he always thought he was more moral than anyone else, and he always shouted down anyone who dared to offer any challenge to anything he said. Then we left college and forgot all about him, until Bernie Sanders ran for president, and the we all though "Oh, my god, he's still around."

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
14. OMG that's IT!!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:19 PM
Mar 2016
I spent about 10 horrible years in a very nice house in a very nice neighborhood, with a HORRIBLE Homeowners Association, due to the evil, manipulative, dishonest, bullying "chairman" as he called himself. He was just like Bernie, down to the accent, the messy hair and the rumbled clothes! He always had stains on his shirt. I usually get along with people, even difficult people, but I had a running battle with this jerk. He tried to tell everybody what kind of flowers we could plant! And he hated my herb garden.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
17. Aggghhh! You took me right there!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:34 PM
Mar 2016

That's why I will only live in a private home! I can just imagine Bernie hating my herb garden!!!

LiberalFighter

(51,138 posts)
67. I was lucky not to have an association in my neighborhood.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:53 PM
Mar 2016

While most of the other neighborhoods in my city have HAs.

The advantage of first being outside the city and then being annexed.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
75. "He" lives next door to me.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:01 AM
Mar 2016

Everything is "wrong," and "everyone" should be "outraged," but he has no solutions for anything.

He is avoided by EVERYONE in the neighborhood. Incessant complaining, incessant know-it-all-ing, but if you suggest he get off his ass and fix it, he'd rather rail about "them." Doesn't matter which "they," either.

He used to gripe about my dog all the time, my little dog that would go out in the back yard at nine every morning and bark at a few squirrels for ten minutes, have a good pee, then come back in the house. Even called the dog police (who told him to get bent).

Then, in WONDERFUL revenge, two families with small, shrieking children moved in--one next door to him, one right behind the first family (both are in eyeball sight of my house). They kept having babies, too--AND, they got DOGS. Dogs that bark, bark, bark. Then, the guy next door to the shrieking kids family got a new dog after their old dog died. More barking! Then, the people across the road from him got a nice, bark-y dog.

I like dogs--if a dog is barking, someone that doesn't belong (be it a squirrel in the morning, or a burglar at night) is in the area. So bark away, neighborhood dogs--you do a better job than the cops!

Bow wow wow yippie yo yippie yea, mon frere~~!!!!!

kerry-is-my-prez

(8,133 posts)
79. The same bastard that won't let me park in front of my own condo, claiming it's his spot!
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 12:40 AM
Apr 2016

Knew I had seen him somewhere before!

DURHAM D

(32,611 posts)
39. OMG - you nailed it.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:13 PM
Mar 2016

I know him so well.
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I just tried to forget about him and certainly won't be around anyone like him in real life.





 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
6. The PAID deflectors in his campaign The Paid
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 07:30 PM
Mar 2016

offensive Buttons Campaign organizers are passing out.. There is no denying it anymore FEC report is out and if you look at who got paid and what they do.. It's Ugly. The Rahm/Hillary signs in Chicago... It was all PAID peeps from his campaign.

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
28. Yes it is.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:48 PM
Mar 2016

He released only 1 year of taxes. Just a guess... I think he hid his 30 MIL under his wife's name the year before and now only wants to release 1 year.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
35. I see
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:56 PM
Mar 2016
"It appears that Ms. Sanders misrepresented confirmed donations in order to get that loan," said Brady Toensing, an attorney and Vice Chair of the Vermont Republican Party.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,274 posts)
34. Very possible
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:54 PM
Mar 2016

The guy makes six figures. He's 16 years older than me and if he's telling the truth his net worth is less than mine.

 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
60. And they forget that Clinton is taking it easy on him by not mentioning any of this.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 11:38 AM
Mar 2016

Clinton is running the positive campaign Sanders promised, and he's running the dirty campaign that all his supporters were so certain would come from Hillary. And since his supporters operate on clearly subjective ethics, it's all good. "Anything in service of BERNIE," should be the new campaign slogan.

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
63. So, looking at that return
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:30 PM
Mar 2016

I made 24K last year. I PAID a bit over 1K in taxes between federal and state. He got a 4K REFUND???????

JSup

(740 posts)
45. I actually think...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:09 PM
Mar 2016

...some of the more abusive and prolific posters are the same people.

I used to read things on the Paul sites; same style and paranoia.

I understand the paranoia, I do. During Occupy Wall Street my boyfriend was watching some of the first protests live (I was uninterested, but I could see it) and so I saw, live, the girls get pepper sprayed by the jackass cop. And then I watched the news, mostly Fox, edit the videos to be short enough that they could say "We don't know what happened, maybe they provoked him before the start of this clip, maybe they deserved it". I was stunned and terrified that the news could just flat out lie like that; I'd been hearing them called liars for years but I tend to not believe negative things without proof for myself (not wiki, not blogs or anything from the internet).

I fell down the rabbit hole for a good while after that; how could I trust anything at all? I started seeing conspiracy in everything, which was scary because I knew I was seeing conspiracy in everything. I did all I could to correct my distrust of everything, but I'll never trust like I did before.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
44. I can't stand him.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:07 PM
Mar 2016

I truly cannot understand why he's so worshipped by his followers. I often wonder if their adoration is genuine, or if it's just an act intended to annoy or to over-compensate.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
50. I read some history...trying to assertain what makes Bernie tick
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:52 PM
Mar 2016

He's actually never played well with others, with society. He never held down a full time, long term job prior to becoming Mayor at age 39. He's a hippy that never grew up, that still can't do anything except earn a living from the tax payer. Nothing wrong with hippies per se...but to expect a majority of Dems to march to his drum is delusional.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
54. I'm a hippie that eventually had to grow up
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:18 AM
Mar 2016

I spent 40 years thinking it was wrong to be successful and resenting those that were. I recovered and have done OK. I hear a lot of envy and resentment among Sanders supporters disguised as caring for others. I think the whole brouhaha about the speeches is all about envy- which Bernie stokes as he increases his net worth every year.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
51. The sound of Bernie's voice makes me physically ill
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:00 AM
Mar 2016

I pity the people of Vermont having to hear that awful sound on a regular basis

kennetha

(3,666 posts)
56. Bernie is a Sanctimonious Blatherer who is ideologically rigid and intellectually inflexible.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:08 AM
Mar 2016

I actually find him unbearable to listen to.

I've been thinking a fair amount about why some find him so attractive. DOn't really get it. But I tend to think of him as a candidate of the Id -- all passion and desire and emotion, with no real thought and unconstrained by reason.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
57. Berns is a delusion kid who believes
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:20 AM
Mar 2016

he is going be the one history remembers for doing what the Bolshevieks could not.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
59. About a month ago the scene from "The Way We Were" came to mind...
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 11:28 AM
Mar 2016

Katie's room in college with the Stalin poster…

creon

(1,183 posts)
71. Sanders is nothing special.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 05:33 PM
Mar 2016

He is a long time fixture in DC; a member of the "Establishment".
He is a professional politician, with all that entails.
He is not a savior; he is not anti establishment.

He is a socialist in a country that has no Socialist Party.

He is 74; and, 2016 is his chance. He is going for broke.

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)
73. Remember reading about HRC giving a recent speech for The Brookings Institution?
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 05:53 PM
Mar 2016

I think they are way out of the league for BS to speak there. I’m almost frightened as much by his simplistic “revolution” as I am of Dump.

BROOKINGS
Jonathan Rothwell | March 25, 2016 9:50am

Make elites compete: Why the 1% earn so much and what to do about it

“…Myth 1: Capital vs. labor share

In his recent and otherwise valuable book, Saving Capitalism: For the Many, not the Few, Robert Reich claims that the share of income going to workers has fallen from 50 percent in 1960 to 42 percent in 2012. Meanwhile, corporate profits have risen. In short: trillions of dollars have gone to capitalists instead of workers. The sensible policy responses, as Reich and others have stressed, are to increase taxes on corporate income and capital gains, and widen capital ownership.

These might be a good idea for other reasons, but the basic facts currently being used to justify them are wrong. Between 1980 and 2014, corporate profits actually represented a lower share of GDP (4.9 percent) than between 1950 and 1979 (5.4 percent)….”

~~
“…Myth 2: Super skills lead to super riches

It is certainly true that rising relative returns to education have driven up inequality. But as I have written earlier, this is true among the bottom 99 percent. There is no evidence to support the idea that the top 1 percent consists mostly of people of “exceptional talent.” In fact, there is quite a bit of evidence to the contrary….”

~~
“…Myth 3: Technology

Some entrepreneurs grow enormously rich as a result of founding a company with an innovative product. This applies to Mark Zuckerberg, as well as to Bill Gates and other mega-stars of the tech sector. Venture capitalist Paul Graham has recently written about this as an important aspect of inequality, and he’s correct. It is. But again, it has little to do with the rise of the 1 percent….”

http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/social-mobility-memos/posts/2016/03/25-make-elites-compete-why-one-percent-earn-so-much-rothwell

 

Legends303

(481 posts)
76. Yeah the bullying
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 01:31 AM
Mar 2016

of the Sander's supporters is nauseating to listen to sometimes, they attack Hilary more then they defend Sanders. Just because you're not for Bernie means you're not a true Democrat or Liberal I've been told.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
78. Feel good about Hillary
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:35 PM
Mar 2016

I want Hillary in the WH and Bernie in the Senate. Not so thrilled with some aspects of both campaigns.

shadowandblossom

(718 posts)
81. She's just much better equipt for the job.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 02:54 AM
Apr 2016

I don't want to have to choose from the lesser of two evils when I have a candidate I'd be proud to vote for. She's ten times better than anyone else running and I'm tired of the bigotry. I don't mind differences in preference, don't like her, or her policies, fine, each to their own... but the bigotry and hatred and double standards... the effort to censor other voices, these things are really hard to stomach.

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