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hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 03:33 PM Jun 2015

We was just told that half of HRC supporters on this site are going to vote gop if...-HRC Room


HILLARY CLINTON ROOM


...Sanders wins the nomination.

Not one HRC supporter on this site has said they would not support the nominee but plenty of Sanders supporters have said they will not support Hillary if she is the nominee.

I am just so sick of people who make accusations against us and they can't back it up.

We are loyal to the party!
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We was just told that half of HRC supporters on this site are going to vote gop if...-HRC Room (Original Post) hrmjustin Jun 2015 OP
he's full of it OKNancy Jun 2015 #1
Yes. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #2
True shenmue Jun 2015 #4
FFS dlwickham Jun 2015 #3
i would like them to address their puma issue. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #11
the PUMA thing is so 2008 dlwickham Jun 2015 #40
Yea, all five of them. leftofcool Jun 2015 #71
Well Old Codger Jun 2015 #5
I saw that. murielm99 Jun 2015 #6
I think some Sanders supporters here are gettingbtired of it as well. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #12
Yes we are. MuseRider Jun 2015 #16
Thank you. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #21
I agree as well. MelissaB Jun 2015 #34
A lot just moved to Sanders when they realized Warren wasn't going to run. misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #49
They are just going to have to get used to her being president. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #58
Yup. Agschmid Jun 2015 #66
Oh FFS. okasha Jun 2015 #7
And he refuses to back up his claim. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #13
He can't. okasha Jun 2015 #17
But it won't stop him from attacking us. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #24
No. okasha Jun 2015 #26
Yes. I think many see it as a baseless attack. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #31
Consider the track record of some of those folks. JoePhilly Jun 2015 #8
Agreed. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #14
I promise I will not vote Republican. I also will not vote to further entrench the 0.1%. GoneFishin Jun 2015 #9
your milquetoast response is not in support of any Dem candidate Sheepshank Jun 2015 #68
It's hard to take them seriously when they post junk like that. I actually like Sanders, Hoyt Jun 2015 #10
I agree. Sanders is a good man but his chances of winning a general election are not good. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #15
Funny. I told a member of the Socialist group OKNancy Jun 2015 #19
One thing the actual facts show clearly okasha Jun 2015 #20
Exactly. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #23
THIS ^ Indeed. misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #50
If... yallerdawg Jun 2015 #18
We have our eyes on the prize. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #22
Kicking. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #25
Is that thread still up? MuseRider Jun 2015 #28
i will send you a pm. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #29
Good gracious. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #27
There is a large green party contingent on DU. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #30
Which is what a write-in for Sanders or a Green vote would amount to. okasha Jun 2015 #32
Its gonna get uglier, so brace ourselves and take the "high road" Iliyah Jun 2015 #33
Yes. I am glad i challenged him and he couod not back up his claim. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #35
I saw that. You handled it well. misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #51
Thanks. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #60
Gee, maybe someone with a star will throw up a poll and we can vote on it...! MADem Jun 2015 #36
Done. okasha Jun 2015 #37
Thanks!!!!!!! nt MADem Jun 2015 #38
Thank you. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #42
Link please!!!!!!!!! sheshe2 Jun 2015 #69
Here us go! MADem Jun 2015 #72
Thank you, MADem~ sheshe2 Jun 2015 #73
Should be interesting results. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #43
I will vote for the Democratic Nominee Agnosticsherbet Jun 2015 #59
I will support the Democratic Nominee no matter what Gothmog Jun 2015 #39
Me too. Unthinkable not to. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #44
Don't let it get to you ... NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #41
The green party/Democratic Party divide is showing jtself on DU. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #45
I think it's more a matter of ... NanceGreggs Jun 2015 #46
Yes some are very obvious. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #57
That's horseshit! leftofcool Jun 2015 #47
Agreed! hrmjustin Jun 2015 #56
Weird because that's a flat out lie, along with "Hillary is just being opportunistic misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #48
it is all about taking her down. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #61
Is this not called Democratic Underground? guillaumeb Jun 2015 #52
Yep. I wish some would remember it is a Democratic leaning site. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #62
I knew quite a few women who are conservative (more or less) who said they were going to LiberalArkie Jun 2015 #53
I think Hillary will do well with GOP women. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #63
The people posting that shit are the same one's that giftedgirl77 Jun 2015 #54
Yes and they need to be called out on that. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #64
Skimmed the thread again, and at the end I read this gem OKNancy Jun 2015 #55
i love it. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #65
Nice! Cha Jun 2015 #67
That accusation is bull! sheshe2 Jun 2015 #70
Same here. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #74

dlwickham

(3,316 posts)
40. the PUMA thing is so 2008
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 07:50 PM
Jun 2015

you had a few Hillary supporters, or so they said, who said they would never support Obama

I'm willing to bet that the majority of Bernie supporters on here will not vote for Hillary but will vote Green or another third party



 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
5. Well
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 03:51 PM
Jun 2015

I am not a big Hillary fan,I will vote for Sanders in any primary I vote in..BUT if Hillary is the Dem nominee I will back her and vote for her....

murielm99

(30,745 posts)
6. I saw that.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 03:54 PM
Jun 2015

Look at many of the histories of the people. A lot of them have more than a thousand posts, but they are only active during the primary seasons. They come here only to disrupt.

I don't think Bernie would be happy with many of his so-called supporters here.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
34. I agree as well.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 06:04 PM
Jun 2015

This is getting ridiculous. I'll support the nominee no matter who it is. People on both sides of this issue are really ticking me off. I'm pulling for Bernie, but will vote for Hillary if she wins the nomination. I am a Democrat.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
49. A lot just moved to Sanders when they realized Warren wasn't going to run.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 09:12 PM
Jun 2015

Same group, same despicable hate, without knowing what they're talking about. Just repeating the same old debunked lies.
Maybe they'll all leave when Hillary is swon in as Madam President.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
7. Oh FFS.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 03:55 PM
Jun 2015

I'm a third-geneation straight-ticket Democrat. The only reason I stopped ticking the single box is that the Texas Democratic Party was in.political ICU for years, and there were down ticket races with no Democratic candidate. I've been voting Libertarian or Green for those slots not because I wouldn't vote for a Dem but to actively deny a vote to the batsht crazy Texas R's.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
26. No.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 05:14 PM
Jun 2015

But every time he does it, the attacks will look sillier. I think he's hit the point of diminishing returns already.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
68. your milquetoast response is not in support of any Dem candidate
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 02:19 PM
Jun 2015

why are you posting in this group?

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
10. It's hard to take them seriously when they post junk like that. I actually like Sanders,
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 04:16 PM
Jun 2015

particularly his desire to see us more like Scandinavian countries (although I would prefer a lot more diversity).

But, I don't think he can win the general election. In the highly unlikely event he did, he would be thwarted by Congress at every turn and get us nowhere. On the other hand, Clinton is highly electable and can accomplish a lot.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
19. Funny. I told a member of the Socialist group
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 04:59 PM
Jun 2015

who I like a lot by the way, that I would like a Scandinavian model too.
One has to be reasonable. Our country is not there yet, and not in the near future either.
For some reason pragmatism and realism is frowned on around here.

Liberal thought always wins in the end, we are just discussing ( fighting) about how fast it will happen.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
20. One thing the actual facts show clearly
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 05:01 PM
Jun 2015

is that Sanders submits some terrific legislation but can't get it passed. Hillary, on the other hand, knows how and when to cajole, make a horse trade or jawbone the opposition into submission. That's how LBJ got the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act passed. It works.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
18. If...
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 04:59 PM
Jun 2015

Senator Sanders (I-VT) is the Democratic Party nominee for president, I would vote for him. Yes, I would vote for a DINO like Sanders and would never consider supporting or even contemplating a vote for a Republican for president. I do not believe 'anyone but' applies to Sanders, the way it seems to apply to our Hillary.

Fortunately, no worries! Most Democrats remain committed to winning in 2016!

MuseRider

(34,111 posts)
28. Is that thread still up?
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 05:15 PM
Jun 2015

I was not able to locate it. If you feel comfortable posting the link or PMING me I would appreciate it. I know many, many good Sanders supporters but I have to think that some of these people are trolling to cause just this kind of problem.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
27. Good gracious.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 05:14 PM
Jun 2015

I just saw two people say they would write in Sanders or vote Green if HRC got the nom. I would be as likely to go play in traffic as vote GOP.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
32. Which is what a write-in for Sanders or a Green vote would amount to.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 05:29 PM
Jun 2015

It may not be as easy as they think. In Texas, we used to be able to write in anyone. On a couple occasions, where there was no opposition to a local crook, I wrote in one of my cats. Now, there's not even a write in spot on the ballot unless a candidate has declared him/herself a write-in candidate and has submitted the required number of supporters' signatures and other.paperwork to the election officials.

Sanders has said he won't be a spoiler, and I believe him. There won't be any write-ins for him in Texas.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
36. Gee, maybe someone with a star will throw up a poll and we can vote on it...!
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 06:54 PM
Jun 2015
If HRC does not win the primary, who will you vote for in the general election?

The Democratic nominee

The Republican nominee

A Third party candidate (please specify downthread)

I will not vote

Prefer not to respond


Be interesting to see what the results might be..!

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
41. Don't let it get to you ...
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 08:13 PM
Jun 2015

Just remember that in the great scheme of things, what gets said on DU is basically of no consequence.

There are alleged Sanders supporters here whose only intent is to draw voters/supporters away from HRC. And their reasoning is obvious: Hillary is the front-runner and still polls well against all GOP contenders. Knocking down HER numbers is all that matters.

Are there honest Sanders supporters here? Absolutely. But by and large, they are NOT the ones bashing Hillary in order to make their candidate-of-choice seem more appealing.

As for the "won't vote for HRC if she's the nominee" folks, I guarantee you that a good number of them have never voted (D) in their lives, and wouldn't even if Bernie was the nominee.

Sad to say, a lot of posters here are easily led - and will claim not to vote (D), or not vote at all, because they want to align themselves with a certain outspoken clique.

Being an HRC supporter on DU is not "cool" - but in RL, it means you're with the majority of your fellow Party members.

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
46. I think it's more a matter of ...
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 08:50 PM
Jun 2015

... the RW trolls/actual Democrats divide that's showing itself on DU.

Think about it. If the GOP had a clear frontrunner who was beating all Dem contenders in polls/surveys, and I wanted to be disruptive on Republican sites, what would serve my purpose better than to try and convince posters there that their frontrunner can't win the general, and some much-admired (but unlikely to win) candidate should have their support instead?

In the unlikely event that Bernie started polling better than HRC in one-on-one polls against GOP contenders, you would see a lot of so-called Sanders supporters here suddenly posting about how Bernie isn't such a great idea after all.

Some are more obvious than others. But many are VERY obvious.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
57. Yes some are very obvious.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 10:18 PM
Jun 2015

Next year the rules get stricter. Hopefully it exposes the gop moles here.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
48. Weird because that's a flat out lie, along with "Hillary is just being opportunistic
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 09:04 PM
Jun 2015

..when she uses feminism."

Good god, Hillary Rodham spoke on behalf of fairness & feminism since her colllege days.
40 effing years of fighting for equality & feminist issues in the US AND around the world. This remark here on DU is just a sample of the ignorance of those who throw out lies about her.
They are no different than the likes of Joni Ernst.
Truth is people that admonish Hillary on an issue like feminism, clearly don't know what she stands for.
Just borrow the RW lie to prop up their candidate.
What an embarrassingly ignorant thing to accuse HRC of.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
52. Is this not called Democratic Underground?
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 09:43 PM
Jun 2015

If so, can one assume that most people posting here are.........Democrats? If so, can one assume that people who are Democrats generally vote for the...........Democratic person in an election?

Why all the silliness, no, make that lunacy, of claiming that if (insert your favorite candidates name here) is not the nominee, I will certainly vote for the GOP candidate?


Whoever is the Democratic nominee will have my vote. The nominee, whoever he/she is, may not be the perfect candidate in my eyes, but he/she will have my vote.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
53. I knew quite a few women who are conservative (more or less) who said they were going to
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 09:46 PM
Jun 2015

vote for Hillary the first time around. They were tired of the Republicans. But when it came down to the general, "White McCain" or "Ni#$$r Muslem Obama" guess who got their vote. Primaries and General in the conservative states (can't say South anymore) are 2 different things. I know the regular normal Democratic Party voter will vote for the party nominee. I am sure there will be a lot of people who will be for HRC in the Primary but may not vote D in the general. These people need to be found and talked to, to convince them that it is important who they vote for. Frankly I think Palin may have helped HRC in the south. They accepted a woman running for the office and that is a big step down here. Maybe in another 20 years or so, race won't make any difference, I hope the gender difference is over with.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
54. The people posting that shit are the same one's that
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 09:47 PM
Jun 2015

flat out say they won't vote for Clinton if she's the nominee.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
55. Skimmed the thread again, and at the end I read this gem
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 10:01 PM
Jun 2015

6000eliot

176. Why don't you embroider your concern for Hillary onto a throw pillow,
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then she can place it on the sofa in the Oval Office once she's elected.

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I love this poster!!

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