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hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:41 PM Mar 2016

One reason I keep saying Sanders will not win Brooklyn is... HRC ROOM



A lot of the new residence in northwestern Brooklyn are not registering as Democrats but as independents. And independents can not vote in our primaries. While the longtime residents who lean Democratic are most likely registered Democrats.

Also while Sanders will have strength in the northwest of Brooklyn his support will drop off quickly once you get east of the BQE/Gowanus Expressway with the likely exception of Park Slope. All the South Brooklyn communities of Bay Ridge, Sunset Park, Dyker Heights, Bensonhurst, Mills Basin, Bath Beach, Coney Island, Brighten Beach, and Marine Park will be strong for Hillary.

Also central and eastern sections like Bedford Stuyvesant, East New York, Canarsie, Flatbush, East Flatbush, Crown Heights and Flatlands will be strong for Hillary.

Sanders really has only 4 neighborhoods he can win and it is not enough. These neighborhoods get a lot of press coverage because mddia people live there but they not enough for Sanders nor even a given.

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One reason I keep saying Sanders will not win Brooklyn is... HRC ROOM (Original Post) hrmjustin Mar 2016 OP
Mahalo for your analysis, Justin! Cha Mar 2016 #1
Thanks for the info! Lucinda Mar 2016 #2
KnR sheshe2 Mar 2016 #3
K&R! DemonGoddess Mar 2016 #4
Teachout won NW Brooklyn against Cuomo in the Democratic primary geek tragedy Mar 2016 #5
But Clinton could do well in some upstate cities. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #6
it's tough to tell, she did very well against Obama there in 2008 but I think the gun geek tragedy Mar 2016 #10
College towns like Cortland will go for Sanders. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #12
comparatively there are fewer than in other places--no giant campuses like Michigan/Michigan State, geek tragedy Mar 2016 #15
Agreed and I think many of the new brooklynites are register indys. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #17
Not in Rochester JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #13
If Clinton wins upstate, it's a complete route statewide. nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #16
I would agree JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #20
haven't seen the ads--don't watch any ads on tv--we dvr everything and fast forward nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #22
That is good news. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #18
Ugh....hipsters. nt kjones Mar 2016 #7
I expect the usual whining and lying from BS Indies in NY stopbush Mar 2016 #8
Yes. They will look to make it fraud to dampen the victory. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #14
And they'll complain that it's undemocratic for NYS to require one change stopbush Mar 2016 #19
Exactly. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #21
That part of Brooklyn also has a strong Jamaican/Island & Pakistani immigrant population. KittyWampus Mar 2016 #9
Yes. Also eastern Queens. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #11

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
2. Thanks for the info!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:48 PM
Mar 2016

It should be fun watching the returns since we know where to look in order to gauge Bernie's results!

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. Teachout won NW Brooklyn against Cuomo in the Democratic primary
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:16 AM
Mar 2016

so I think he still does pretty well there.

It'll be a wipeout in the non-gentrified areas though--you can't win in NYC with only hipsters and hippies voting for you. My part of Crown Heights (Western) will be close to evenly split, a lot of white liberals here.

Lon-Guy-Land will be really tough though--they hate their tax burden as it is.

Upstate he should do pretty well, especially because Clinton is pushing the gun angle (they LOVE their guns in upstate NY).

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
10. it's tough to tell, she did very well against Obama there in 2008 but I think the gun
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:42 AM
Mar 2016

issue will help Sanders up there.

Demographics in upstate NY are fairly old, young people don't flock to places like Buffalo and Syracuse and Albany.

They know Hillary up there, they don't know Sanders.

Sanders needs to win overwhelmingly in upstate to have any chance. If he breaks even in upstate he loses by 10-15%. If he loses upstate by 10% he loses the state by 25%.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
15. comparatively there are fewer than in other places--no giant campuses like Michigan/Michigan State,
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 11:02 AM
Mar 2016

Ohio State, U of Illinois, U of Minnesota, U Wisconsin.

and I'm skeptical that he got that many students to register.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
13. Not in Rochester
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:57 AM
Mar 2016

They are very very loyal in Monroe to Louise Slaughter - and she's not 'there' for Sanders. Uh - no - Clinton wins Monroe County.

On the 'personal story' side - my mom sees very few Sanders or Trump stickers (Monroe County) out her way. It's Clinton and Kasich.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
20. I would agree
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 11:13 AM
Mar 2016

The Western NY'ers are different. I lived there for 30 years - volunteered on Clinton's Senate run in 2000 -

The same people that send Joe Robach to Albany will vote for Clinton. And it's not because she has 'Republican' tendencies - it's because she didn't forget about us when the Telecom bubble burst at the same time Kodak, Xerox and B & L went bye bye etc. etc. Those folks remember and her presence.

Have you seen the ads running on Channel 7 (we get it in NJ) showing the optix company in Rochester. And Buffalo is on an upswing. That rebirth is good for Clinton.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
8. I expect the usual whining and lying from BS Indies in NY
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:02 AM
Mar 2016

who will lyingly claim that they changed their registration to D and the state screwed up.

Of course, that would mean that in order to be eligible to vote in the D primary, they changed their registration a year ago, ie: before Sanders even announced he was running.

The lying comes so easy to them.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
19. And they'll complain that it's undemocratic for NYS to require one change
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 11:10 AM
Mar 2016

their party registration a year in advance to vote in the primary being held by a particular political party.

Lazy, low-information, self-aggrandizing types who finally found the time to dedicate 4 minutes of their lives to being involved politically, and who are upset that their grand gesture didn't change the course of history.

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