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upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 08:28 AM Jun 2015

Hillary beats out Bernie in Wisconsin and Bernie people are jumping for joy!

Bernie "pulls" within 8 of Hillary? More like Hillary beats Bernie by eight.

I have never seen a more delusional group of people in my entire life. And mean too! The innuendo and swift boating of Hillary is disgusting. They deal in such denial and dishonesty it makes my head spin.

I think even Bernie would disown them if he were reading this board.

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Hillary beats out Bernie in Wisconsin and Bernie people are jumping for joy! (Original Post) upaloopa Jun 2015 OP
New to politics, huh? n/t Dawgs Jun 2015 #1
Maybe a smilie could say it better upaloopa Jun 2015 #2
Huh? My comment was an honest opinion. Dawgs Jun 2015 #8
I will vote for Hillary is she wins the nomination. safeinOhio Jun 2015 #3
Politics not personality Betty Karlson Jun 2015 #4
this is posted in the Hillary Clinton group OKNancy Jun 2015 #5
Hey....you are hedging in the wrong direction Sheepshank Jun 2015 #25
If they wanted to support the Democratic Party nominee... yallerdawg Jun 2015 #27
No problem, I love Hillary too. safeinOhio Jun 2015 #28
So what do you think............ Sheepshank Jun 2015 #29
Not much and safeinOhio Jun 2015 #30
dont like this post. mopinko Jun 2015 #6
You do realize that this group is for those that support Hillary? That is the statement of purpose still_one Jun 2015 #7
"I have never seen a more delusional group of people in my entire life. And mean too!" Dawgs Jun 2015 #9
This is the Hillary Clinton room. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #10
I know. And, my post had nothing to do with my support for Hillary. Dawgs Jun 2015 #11
We the hosts will decide that. Considering your posts about Hillary elsewhere it is inappropriate hrmjustin Jun 2015 #12
You know it's possible to support more than one candidate, right? n/t Dawgs Jun 2015 #13
Oh really? hrmjustin Jun 2015 #14
That proves what? That I don't support her or I won't vote her? Because it doesn't. Dawgs Jun 2015 #15
The point is you have not read the sop of this room. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #16
The point is you are a disrupted trying to tell a protected group what it should or should not post still_one Jun 2015 #21
How can you tell what is closed group and what isn't? yeoman6987 Jun 2015 #23
In the larest threads page there is a room title above every thread. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #31
Seems like a lot of work for everyone to have to do yeoman6987 Jun 2015 #32
Protected groups are a part of DU. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #33
Ok so I am in Hillary Clinton group now yeoman6987 Jun 2015 #35
The HRC is a room for her supporters to talk about her free of criticism. hrmjustin Jun 2015 #37
We hosts have no power to do that. The admins set this up.. however OKNancy Jun 2015 #34
Yeah I am complaining because I am getting a lot of jury requests yeoman6987 Jun 2015 #36
read my post - good grief OKNancy Jun 2015 #38
Well of course. Why teach anyone how the system works yeoman6987 Jun 2015 #40
I took the trouble to make a screen capture to show you what the setting should be OKNancy Jun 2015 #41
Alright I'll go back to your original reply. yeoman6987 Jun 2015 #42
With respect we can't solve this issue. Skinner is the only one who can deal with these kind of hrmjustin Jun 2015 #39
Ok. Thanks. I'll delete my op. yeoman6987 Jun 2015 #43
Skinner and the Admin set up the rules.. if you don't think they're fair.. ask him about it in ATA Cha Jun 2015 #44
True. Thanks for the suggestion. yeoman6987 Jun 2015 #45
i am a fan of hillary. mopinko Jun 2015 #18
Jury Results Goblinmonger Jun 2015 #17
Maybe I don't understand what safe havens or a special group means, but I was under the still_one Jun 2015 #19
The SOP and the jury system are two different things Goblinmonger Jun 2015 #22
Appreciate the explanation . I was really unsure about it. Thankd still_one Jun 2015 #24
Yipes shenmue Jun 2015 #20
The real story is that this straw poll only shows how much stronger Clinton is than eight years ago wyldwolf Jun 2015 #26

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
2. Maybe a smilie could say it better
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 08:33 AM
Jun 2015

What is with the attacks? If I said what you deserve I'd get alerted.

safeinOhio

(32,685 posts)
3. I will vote for Hillary is she wins the nomination.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 08:41 AM
Jun 2015

Will you vote for Bernie if he wins it?

I just had to ask

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
4. Politics not personality
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 08:46 AM
Jun 2015

Mr. Sanders and Mrs. Clinton have BOTH refrained from making personal attacks. What they do is laying out political positions and policies they hope to implement.

These elections are about politics. Not about Mrs. Clinton or Mr. Sanders. Not about their supporters. It's about their positions. And since quite a few of those positions overlap, we need to select a good candidate, without acrimony, to carry those policies forward, into a new presidency.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
25. Hey....you are hedging in the wrong direction
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 12:11 PM
Jun 2015

I have yet to see any one Hillary supporter who says they will not support whomever is the Dem Nominee.

As for the Sanders supporters....you cannot claim the same. just peek through this thread..over and over, Bernie supporters claiming they would not vote for hillary should she get the Dem Nomination: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6794324

Since you asked, I thought I'd tell.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
27. If they wanted to support the Democratic Party nominee...
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 12:23 PM
Jun 2015

would you expect them to after supporting Senator Sanders (I-VT) who is a confirmed DINO?

They have already made the leap away from the Party.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
29. So what do you think............
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 12:28 PM
Jun 2015

.......about those Bernie supporters who refuse to to vote for the Dem Nominee should it be Hillary?

still_one

(92,201 posts)
7. You do realize that this group is for those that support Hillary? That is the statement of purpose
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:04 AM
Jun 2015

of this group:

"Discuss the life, career, and accomplishments of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. Supporters only."

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
9. "I have never seen a more delusional group of people in my entire life. And mean too!"
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:15 AM
Jun 2015

Is that supporting Hillary's life, career, and accomplishments?

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
11. I know. And, my post had nothing to do with my support for Hillary.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:20 AM
Jun 2015

It had to do with someone using this room inappropriately. It shouldn't be done here or in any other candidates room.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
12. We the hosts will decide that. Considering your posts about Hillary elsewhere it is inappropriate
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:22 AM
Jun 2015

for you to post here.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
15. That proves what? That I don't support her or I won't vote her? Because it doesn't.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:27 AM
Jun 2015

And, it has nothing to do with the fact that a candidate's room was used to attack to others on DU, instead of using it for it's stated mission.

I don't why you're so angry.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
16. The point is you have not read the sop of this room.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:30 AM
Jun 2015

The point is the hosts of this room decide what is appropriate in this room.

The point is we don't need Sanders supporters coming in here to police us.

I don't do it to the Sanders room i would appreciate you not doing it in here.

still_one

(92,201 posts)
21. The point is you are a disrupted trying to tell a protected group what it should or should not post
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 10:05 AM
Jun 2015
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
23. How can you tell what is closed group and what isn't?
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 10:19 AM
Jun 2015

This thread is in latest threads which is open to the public.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
31. In the larest threads page there is a room title above every thread.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 02:09 PM
Jun 2015

When a post is posted in this room you will see the title of the thread and above that the room it is in when looking in the latest thread page.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
32. Seems like a lot of work for everyone to have to do
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:02 PM
Jun 2015

Why not just keep private groups out of latest threads so that you don't have DUers not in the group making comments. If you want an exclusive group, why not keep it out of areas that the nonmembers go? It would be good for the group and the nonmembers because I've noticed on many occasions that the members of a group get upset if one of the non members says something not acceptable to the group. I think the exclusive groups set up non members to fail by coming into public areas.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
33. Protected groups are a part of DU.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:05 PM
Jun 2015

It is the responsibility of a DUer to notice the group you post in.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
34. We hosts have no power to do that. The admins set this up.. however
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:07 PM
Jun 2015

Firstly, why do so many other have no problem with it?
Second, every other group appears on the latest page...

and finally if you were observant, you can could what appears on YOUR latest page. I think you just want to complain, however.

Here are my settings:

[url=http://www.servimg.com/view/11715825/1524][img][/img][/url]

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
36. Yeah I am complaining because I am getting a lot of jury requests
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:14 PM
Jun 2015

For those that had no idea that they could not be negative in a certain group. Yes so I am complaining.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
38. read my post - good grief
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:16 PM
Jun 2015

change your setting.

Oh by the way, you latest in GD will be locked shortly as META

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
40. Well of course. Why teach anyone how the system works
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:19 PM
Jun 2015

Knowledge is key I thought. I came to the board with a problem and instead of addressing it we'll get rid of it so that the misunderstandings can continue. Got it.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
41. I took the trouble to make a screen capture to show you what the setting should be
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:21 PM
Jun 2015

I actually was trying to tell you what to do to solve your problem, but for some reason.....

I'll end there.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
39. With respect we can't solve this issue. Skinner is the only one who can deal with these kind of
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:19 PM
Jun 2015

issues.

Cha

(297,257 posts)
44. Skinner and the Admin set up the rules.. if you don't think they're fair.. ask him about it in ATA
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 06:33 PM
Jun 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1259

I think you're wrong.. Group OPs can be Rec and then get on the Greatest Page just like any other thread.. so more people can see them. It's up to the member to notice where the heck they are.

mopinko

(70,112 posts)
18. i am a fan of hillary.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:50 AM
Jun 2015

not sure if i will vote for her, but admire her incredible achievements, and think she would make a fine pres.
i like bernie too. very happy to have 2 such great dems.

not sure if you are insinuating that i shouldnt be posting here. but i dont see how trashing bernie supporters has anything to do with the purpose of the group.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
17. Jury Results
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:33 AM
Jun 2015

On Mon Jun 8, 2015, 06:28 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

Hillary beats out Bernie in Wisconsin and Bernie people are jumping for joy!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/11078595

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Take this ad hominem nasty post to Hillary Mojo , hidden away for the devotees. This has no business anywhere on DU.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Jun 8, 2015, 06:32 AM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It's a safe haven so I'll let them vent. It must suck to be supporting someone you think is the anointed one and then have another candidate pull close and make it look like it may be a race. And the poster should probably realize that if they are going to call people "mean" they may want to tone down the "delusional" talk. And maybe look for the plank in your own eye and all that.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Name calling, flame bait, intended purely to disrupt. Hide.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: If personal attacks can remain then this type of post should stay in view also.

Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Ugly and hateful. This is a sick post
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

still_one

(92,201 posts)
19. Maybe I don't understand what safe havens or a special group means, but I was under the
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:57 AM
Jun 2015

impression that a groups Admins, not the general DU forum determine if a post fits the criteria of a group, not the DU jury system. Can someone clarify that for me if they know

Also, reading some of the comments from the jury on this reinforces why I do not take part in the process. It has no real standards, and some jury participants find a need to make their own personal remarks regarding the conflict, and worse, sometimes inject that bias into their decision

Groups are supposed to be a sanctuary for supporters I thought

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
22. The SOP and the jury system are two different things
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 10:15 AM
Jun 2015

Hosts of a group get to decide only on OPs (if they meet the SOP) and if DU members are blocked from the group.

Anybody on DU can alert on any post in any group in DU and then the jury takes over. As was the case here.

I'm probably one of the comments you weren't happy about (though I voted to leave) and I'm fine with that.

wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
26. The real story is that this straw poll only shows how much stronger Clinton is than eight years ago
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 12:22 PM
Jun 2015

The real story is that this straw poll only shows how much stronger Clinton is than eight years ago, when in the same poll:

Of the 389 delegates, alternates and guests who voted in 2008, 153 backed Edwards, while Hillary Clinton came in second with 83 votes and Barack Obama was third with 74.

The progressive insurgent is again sitting with ~40% of the vote, but now Clinton has closer to 50% than 20% support. The left wing activists in the party are significantly less hostile towards her than they were back then.

Also Clinton only got 55% in their poll last year essentially unopposed so it's clearly not representative of national polling of Democrats. Sanders may consolidate the "Anyone But Hillary" bloc, but unlike in 2007/8 that's now only a minority of the party.

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