FUN!

HRC GROUPG READY!!

telling people what they want to hear just like all his other wild proposals.

is that even if the Congress passed them 100% with no opposition whatsoever, his plans would pay for only half their actual cost or even less than half.

Talk about sticker shock! His plan to raise the payroll contribution to Medicare from 2.9% to 6.2% is in reality only about 1/3 of what the tax raise would need to be, which would be 17-18%.

they will stop having to pay tuition in January.

I wonder what would happen if Bernie told them that the best possible scenario for his free college tuition plan would be that it would start 3-4 years from now. Think they'd still be on the Bernie bus with that little truth sitting there?

I'm pretty sure California would LOVE to fill their universities' rolls with Wisconsin students under Bernie's plan. It only pays the tuition for in-state students, so every in-stater that gets displaced by an out-of-stater is a student Bernietuition doesn't have to fund.

It can't be otherwise as they are supported by taxes collected from in-state residents. The primary mission of state colleges is to provide educational opportunities for state residents.

I know several state schools that thrive on out of state students.

I went to one where 70% of the student body was form out of state. It was cheaper than going to school in the state I was from.

And that's with a more-aggressive approach to recruiting out-of-staters that CA schools adopted in 2015.

Average cost for an in-state student is $12k a year. An out-of-state students pays about $23k MORE than that per year to go to college in CA.

UCLA has about 30% out-of-state, Berkley around 29%. Everyone else is below that.

There is concern in-state that residents are being squeezed out, but the system always says not true. Who knows?

In any case, I know as a father with two students in the CA system that the big problem is over crowding and not enough classes being offered. Typically, a CC will offer classes to accommodate about half the students who need to take a required course. That means that kids are forced to stay in college for an extra couple of years just to get the courses they need.

If that's not a squeeze, what is?

But it is fiscally impossible.

It sure hooked the young people though!

Do we possibly think Republican Govs are going to pay out the cost on his plan? As Hillary said it, best not going to happen.

around and giving free education for the children of the 1%, doesn't make sense.

out of state doesn't apply. so you move there in May you qualify. Free tuition is very possible in all states. Only defeatists say something can't be done. Ivy League and private colleges can drop their football entities and return to scholastic persuits. We don't need them, instead we need vocational schools, apprentiships and scholarships not tied to sports. Big colleges have lost their way, now corporations, for profit, closing schools to afford new stadiums.

They are privately funded.

Why would a state college drop their football program? They generate revenue - especially from alumni and TV - and serve as recruiting tools.

The problem with Bernie is that he believes that any plan besides his is defeatist. Apparently, so do his supporters.

BTW: lotteries - What works in NM won't work in CA. The CA lottery generates about $5.5-billion in ticket sales revenue each year. About $1.4-billion of that goes to support education, with 80% going to K-12. That $1.4-billion represents ONE PERCENT of the CA state education budget. 5% of the sales of lottery tickets covers administrative costs. The rest of the money goes to pay prize winners and for retailer compensation for selling the tickets. There's no more $ left to pay for all high school grads to have tuition free college.

It builds revenue, yes, but not for education. College football players are not paid, and coaches are the highest paid individuals in colleges. It should be more than self sustaining as a seperate entity.

I don't think I've ever seen a more confusing post. First you start talking about public school "free" tuition (which, incidentally, is not free - SOMEONE has to pay for it) and then you want to control what the Ivies and the other private colleges do.

In Idaho they sold $210.2 million in lottery tickets last year.
$136.7 million went to prizes
$12.5 million to dealer commissions
$16 million to overhead
$17 million to public schools
$11 million to the Bond Levy Equalization Fund
$17 million to the Permanent Building Fund

And we STILL have to float a bond levy in every school district every two years to make up for the state's funding shortfall.

Wishing for free tuition won't make it happen. MASSIVE, political-suicide-level, tax increases will make it happen.

His plan is - matching finds.