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all american girl

(1,788 posts)
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:00 PM Mar 2016

Is it just me, or are the bernie folks really nasty today.

Man, I thought I swore a lot, and everything they write is just horrible. I'm thinking that they realize that Bernie didn't do that well with Rachel last night. I've been listening to her show via the podcast, and haven't made all the way through Bernie yet, and I have to say, so far he was no where near as good as Hillary. When the east coast primaries come, it's going to be unbearable around here.

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Is it just me, or are the bernie folks really nasty today. (Original Post) all american girl Mar 2016 OP
Pssssttt... asuhornets Mar 2016 #1
I know, but wow, this morning it was at it's best. all american girl Mar 2016 #5
At this point it has become more an Anti-Hillary movement charlyvi Mar 2016 #12
For a group of people who act like Bernie is god all american girl Mar 2016 #23
Ding, ding, ding! BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #24
I think it must be a small very vocal minority. bullimiami Mar 2016 #2
My husband was asking me if it was this bad in 2008 all american girl Mar 2016 #7
Agreed. Treant Mar 2016 #16
It was bad for Hillary supporters in 2008, or so I thought, until this. LisaM Mar 2016 #40
I think some are not Bernie fans but rather anti Hillary. upaloopa Mar 2016 #3
"Multi paragraph prepared OPs" OMG that made me laugh all american girl Mar 2016 #8
That's exactly how I feel nini Mar 2016 #11
And page after page of Bernie pictures on one OP SharonClark Mar 2016 #34
I think some of them are paid responders. Fla Dem Mar 2016 #39
We have known this for months now upaloopa Mar 2016 #41
Wow. Seriously. Maru Kitteh Apr 2016 #64
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #4
Oh, you are bad all american girl Mar 2016 #6
Agreed chillfactor Mar 2016 #9
Insanely nasty today. It started with them going thermonuclear on Barney Frank taught_me_patience Mar 2016 #10
I've noticed that also all american girl Mar 2016 #21
it's like a "cult". DesertFlower Apr 2016 #51
Noticed that today Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2016 #50
Is this new? workinclasszero Mar 2016 #13
They've got me all riled up today, I know that much. Serenity now! nt CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #14
I Got One of Those Adult Coloring Books otohara Mar 2016 #17
I play Wordbrain and solve jigsaws with puzzle bug (both are free apps). displacedtexan Mar 2016 #37
I've just switch my DU bookmark from GD:P to Hillary Group. CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #58
Aren't they always??? I think he just attracts that personality type! Walk away Mar 2016 #15
I think its the DC ballots GvilleDem Mar 2016 #18
Agreed Raissa Mar 2016 #20
I was an independent, before it was the cool thing to do all american girl Mar 2016 #22
I was independant GvilleDem Mar 2016 #43
Cult, anyone? charlyvi Mar 2016 #30
yesl DesertFlower Apr 2016 #52
Leave The DNC? LOL otohara Mar 2016 #33
They're losing and feeling the bern in sensitive places. n/t cosmicone Mar 2016 #19
Lol!! fun n serious Mar 2016 #47
If they win WI, no matter how closely, they will be particularly cocky book_worm Mar 2016 #25
Oh dear god...they are going to drive me crazy. all american girl Mar 2016 #27
It's just insufferable in general... sweetloukillbot Mar 2016 #38
Everyday bravenak Mar 2016 #26
Just another day in Paradise.... FarPoint Mar 2016 #28
I'm off to watch The X files. Mama needs a break from here. all american girl Mar 2016 #29
Good tastes Raissa Mar 2016 #31
The worst part: CrowCityDem Mar 2016 #32
Then they were griping about how much money Rachel Maddow makes! LisaM Mar 2016 #44
sometimes i think this site should be renamed DesertFlower Apr 2016 #53
Right? They are trying to gaslight us. LisaM Apr 2016 #56
Love Rachel for being real on this BS crap! Cha Apr 2016 #49
Just nasty today? FloridaBlues Mar 2016 #35
It's transcended politics. Basic LA Mar 2016 #36
It's called desperation. They realize that Bernie won't get enough delegates to clinch the Arkansas Granny Mar 2016 #42
hillary gets blamed for everything. someone DesertFlower Apr 2016 #54
Cant they just make one topic one post MattP Mar 2016 #45
just once i'd like to log on and not see DesertFlower Apr 2016 #55
Right now they're complaining about HRC's "tone". The tone around DU .... Hekate Mar 2016 #46
Today? nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #48
You are correct Gothmog Apr 2016 #57
It's all just Slip, Sliding Away Fla Dem Apr 2016 #59
They're actually deluded enough to think he's going to carry New York Tarc Apr 2016 #60
BSers are sensing the end, desperation has set in. liberal N proud Apr 2016 #61
It is the delegate count. creon Apr 2016 #62
Easier for me b/c just have stayed in HRC Group Her Sister Apr 2016 #63

all american girl

(1,788 posts)
5. I know, but wow, this morning it was at it's best.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:11 PM
Mar 2016

I live overseas, so I'm always behind. This morning I got up and was looking here. There was all this crap about Hillary that has be on here all the time. I turned to my husband and said I thought Bernie probably didn't do well on Rachel. Damn I'm good, because I was right. They really only seem to know how to insult everyone around them...very childish

charlyvi

(6,537 posts)
12. At this point it has become more an Anti-Hillary movement
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:27 PM
Mar 2016

than a pro-Bernie movement. From the top of his campaign down. Democrats are noticing.

bullimiami

(13,103 posts)
2. I think it must be a small very vocal minority.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:07 PM
Mar 2016

Pretty obnoxious though.

In over 12 years I don't recall anything like it on here.

all american girl

(1,788 posts)
7. My husband was asking me if it was this bad in 2008
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:16 PM
Mar 2016

It was bad, but not this bad. I was undecided, and couldn't vote-my state was a caucus state and we were overseas-so I had no skin in the game. I was getting sick of it then. Some of these people are a bit zealot. I thought Obama was the messiah...boy was I wrong.

Treant

(1,968 posts)
16. Agreed.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:48 PM
Mar 2016

'08 was bad--at the time, I was an Obama leaner, but wouldn't've blinked if Clinton had gotten the nomination.

This is at least twice as bad. Possibly because the candidate is performing just strongly enough to be a competitor, but not strongly enough to be a serious competitor. He's only going to attract the most strident--and least realistic--people in terms of ardent supporters.

LisaM

(27,830 posts)
40. It was bad for Hillary supporters in 2008, or so I thought, until this.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:11 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie looked terrible last night. When he was attempting to answer the abortion question, he railed about Trump and Cruz being on the crazy train, and he kept shouting in a creepy way, 'WOMEN ARE PUNISHED? WOMEN ARE PUNISHED?", before brushing it off women's issues in favor of his spiel. In contrast, Hillary was at her absolute best, calm, determined, completely on point. She did not shift it to another issue.

The narrative today is Trump vs. Hillary. After all the other crap Trump has pulled, Tweety, of all people, did him in last night. He may win the nomination, but he's over. No woman who is the least big left of sanity will forget what Donald Trump said about punishing women, whether or not he tried to pull it back. Damage done, game over. Even GOP pundits were groaning at his poll numbers with women.

Sanders was outmatched by Rachel Maddow and outplayed by Hillary in the response to Trump. He seemed angry last night. He shouted during the entire interview. His face was bright red. That he didn't want to be there was blindingly obvious (and it wasn't even an in-person interview).

In sharp contrast to both of the shouting men, Hillary allowed herself to be tracked down - in person - and gave Rachel a lot of extra time, combined with an extremely mannered response.

Note to Bernie: women's issues are economic issues. Give us a raise from .72 on the dollar to the whole dollar and watch the income gap narrow significantly.



upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
3. I think some are not Bernie fans but rather anti Hillary.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:09 PM
Mar 2016

You never see some of them say anything positive about Bernie.

And they all show up around the same time with their multi paragraph prepared OP's they got from somewhere else.

They will be gone after the convention

all american girl

(1,788 posts)
8. "Multi paragraph prepared OPs" OMG that made me laugh
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:18 PM
Mar 2016

and it's so true. My fav is when the are a 1000 threads of a horrible Hillary thing, and they get out of joint about 2 about Bernie...what a joke.

Fla Dem

(23,741 posts)
39. I think some of them are paid responders.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:57 PM
Mar 2016

Google "Paid Political Responders". They have a job to do to vilify the front runner, in this case HRC and to drive wedges between the 2 camps. I think that explains to some degree the posters who post with the multi paragraph responses. The have scripts all ready to respond to any positive thread about Hillary. In this case it would be a GOP effort to drag HRC down because they don't want to go up against her in the general election.

Maru Kitteh

(28,342 posts)
64. Wow. Seriously.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 07:51 PM
Apr 2016

I've always wondered how the hell one goes about becoming a paid troll, who hires them, all that stuff. I find it amazing. How do they gauge productivity? Who supervises them to make sure they don't wander too far off the farm? How does that work?

Response to all american girl (Original post)

 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
10. Insanely nasty today. It started with them going thermonuclear on Barney Frank
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:25 PM
Mar 2016

and now they are tied up in knots trying to explain Bernie's comments on Maddow about fundraising for down-ticket dems.

all american girl

(1,788 posts)
21. I've noticed that also
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:29 PM
Mar 2016

There is no amount of explaining to them that this is dumb. Whatever Bernie does is A-OK with them. There is no critical thinking, just following...it's creepy.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,192 posts)
50. Noticed that today
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 12:38 AM
Apr 2016

Falling all over themselves to defend Susan Sarandon then bashing Barney Frank.

Hey Bernie Bros ever hear of Dodd/Frank? Unlike Sanders Barney Frank actually sponsored legislation that dealt with Wall Street excesses.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
13. Is this new?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:33 PM
Mar 2016

Maybe they are more desperate than usual because the primaries are winding down and Bernie is still far behind.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
17. I Got One of Those Adult Coloring Books
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:56 PM
Mar 2016

totally worth the money during this insane primary season.

I get lost in "Lost Ocean"

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
37. I play Wordbrain and solve jigsaws with puzzle bug (both are free apps).
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:49 PM
Mar 2016

I can only take so much bern in a day.

 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
58. I've just switch my DU bookmark from GD:P to Hillary Group.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 09:15 AM
Apr 2016

No point in wading through that cesspool if I don't have to.

GvilleDem

(41 posts)
18. I think its the DC ballots
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:10 PM
Mar 2016

I woke up to some very nasty posts. Threats to leave the corrupt DNC over the stupid ballots in DC. I'm pretty sure they believe Bernie really isn't going to be on the ballot, and all their unconfirmed suspicions are now true. I know one bernie fan, she unfriended 3 people for putting down her meme declaring "BE WARNED DNC: We now have enough support to make our own party."

In the conversation I could see its becoming an 'Us or the Other' kind of deal. Kind of like the republicans, they aren't seeking truth, they are seeking things which confirm what they believe is the truth. Having a single actual legit thing to be upset about. Its like throwing gasoline onto a bonfire.

Raissa

(217 posts)
20. Agreed
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:27 PM
Mar 2016

I've seen the same in my facebook. Lots of leaving the Democratic Party talk, but the people talking on my page are Independants that registered this cycle.

all american girl

(1,788 posts)
22. I was an independent, before it was the cool thing to do
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:37 PM
Mar 2016

My husband's grandfather told me that if you want to make changes happen you have to be part of a party to make those changes. I registered as a dem after that. The man was right...and oh, he was a republican that was big in northwest Iowa politics. Yeah, my husband isn't pure enough to be part of the bernie fan club. When I married him he was a republican. You have to stick with a party, through the highs and lows.

GvilleDem

(41 posts)
43. I was independant
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:28 PM
Mar 2016

I didn't really like the democratic party because they never stood up for anything when the going got tough. Ironically that makes me the bluest democrat there ever could be this cycle, and I don't plan on going back to the green party any time soon.

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
47. Lol!!
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:34 PM
Mar 2016

Btw.. reading Twitter looks like a lot of facts Bernie id not going to like coming out soon. #PushBack

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
25. If they win WI, no matter how closely, they will be particularly cocky
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:56 PM
Mar 2016

but then starting April 19 the race shifts back to favor HRC with a series of closed primaries beginning with NY & PA.

all american girl

(1,788 posts)
27. Oh dear god...they are going to drive me crazy.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:00 PM
Mar 2016

It's either the cockiness or the victim hood over everything.

 

CrowCityDem

(2,348 posts)
32. The worst part:
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:22 PM
Mar 2016

The treatment of Rachel Maddow has bordered on the absurd. She is clearly one of the few people on mainstream cable news who is unabashedly liberal, and she is being trashed as a corporate shill because she has the audacity to treat both candidates with the same level of respect. The question she asked Bernie about raising money for down-ticket Dems wasn't complicated. There was no other acceptable answer besides, "yes".

Likewise, criticizing her for pointing out the severe 'truth massaging' Devine did regarding their effort in the South isn't evidence the she's trying to torpedo Bernie's campaign. It's another episode that wouldn't have happened if the campaign had given the right answer the first time.

For as relentlessly as Hillary gets pounced on for things she and her campaign say, of which many of the complaints were completely justified, Bernie's supporters shouldn't cry foul when his mistakes are called mistakes.

LisaM

(27,830 posts)
44. Then they were griping about how much money Rachel Maddow makes!
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:10 PM
Mar 2016

It never ends. They've run out of new material about Bernie - and we're seeing that it was thin to begin with - so it's either absolutely incessant attacks on Hillary, cries of voter fraud aimed at the DNC, and now bleating about Bernie not being on the DC ballot when it's clearly an administrative oversight that will be fixed. There was one a few minutes ago saying that the person had donated to Bernie and thanking Hillary for inspiring him to do so. How old are these people, 12?

LisaM

(27,830 posts)
56. Right? They are trying to gaslight us.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 01:35 AM
Apr 2016

I got a bit more aggressive today and I thank Rachel and Tweety for that. Trump and Bernie exposed!

 

Basic LA

(2,047 posts)
36. It's transcended politics.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 05:52 PM
Mar 2016

And a lot of the time, it's not even about Bernie. Just raw-sewage hatred of Hillary.

Arkansas Granny

(31,528 posts)
42. It's called desperation. They realize that Bernie won't get enough delegates to clinch the
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:28 PM
Mar 2016

nomination and they need someone to blame for that. So, they blame Hillary. They've convinced themselves that Hillary is so horrible that she's responsible for Bernie's lack of appeal to the majority of Democrats. It's probably going to get worse until Hillary has the delegates needed for the nomination. Then they either support the candidate or go elsewhere.

DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
54. hillary gets blamed for everything. someone
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 01:20 AM
Apr 2016

dies in hondurus -- its hillary's fault. sometone loses thier job. it's hillary's fault.

MattP

(3,304 posts)
45. Cant they just make one topic one post
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:35 PM
Mar 2016

There is like 100 posts on each anti Hillary topic, it clogs up everything

Hekate

(90,793 posts)
46. Right now they're complaining about HRC's "tone". The tone around DU ....
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:20 PM
Mar 2016

...feels like a certain place that shall not be named has emptied out in our direction. The level of discourse ...

Fla Dem

(23,741 posts)
59. It's all just Slip, Sliding Away
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 10:07 AM
Apr 2016

Slip sliding away, slip sliding away
You know the nearer the convention, the more you slip sliding away

Whoah and there were these Bernie fans, they came from all around
They wore their passion for this man like a thorny crown
They said Bernie, I live in fear
My love for you's so overpowering, I'm afraid that I will disappear

Slip sliding away, slip sliding away
You know the nearer the convention, the more you slip sliding away

Yes, as they get nearer to the end of this relationship, "they're feeling the pain" of the loss.


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Tarc

(10,476 posts)
60. They're actually deluded enough to think he's going to carry New York
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 12:09 PM
Apr 2016

They took a wrong turn off Reality Road a ways back.

liberal N proud

(60,344 posts)
61. BSers are sensing the end, desperation has set in.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 01:31 PM
Apr 2016

Just keep growing your ignore list until it is over.

Make sure you put them on your Jury blacklist as well.

creon

(1,183 posts)
62. It is the delegate count.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 01:59 PM
Apr 2016

The issue turns on delegates.
What Sanders people say here does not matter; it is just empty words.
What matters are votes in the primaries and the delegates won in those primaries.

I am not a fan; and, this is not a football game.

I will vote for the Democratic nominee; whether it be Clinton or Sanders.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
63. Easier for me b/c just have stayed in HRC Group
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 02:04 PM
Apr 2016

Just 16 of my posts were in GD when I decided to post on Tulsi Gabbard Islamophobia at one point.
http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/curious-islamophobic-politics-dem-congressmember-tulsi-gabbard

Other than that just encountering the strays that wander here.

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