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Related: About this forumRachel Maddow And The Hard Truths For Bernie: Tad Devine Is Full Of Crap Edition.
Maddow, A Constant Sanders Supporter Takes On The Hypocrisy In Sanders'/Devine's New Strategy.http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/3/29/1507807/-Rachel-Maddow-And-The-Hard-Truths-For-Bernie-Tad-Devine-Is-Full-Of-Crap-Edition
It is definitely worth a watch
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Rachel takes particular exception to two new talking points:
1. That the Sanders campaign will try to have the Superdelegates overturn the will of the voters when he does not achieve the majority of pledged delegates.
And
2. That Hillary is only ahead because she ran up huge margins in states Bernie didn't bother to contest. Rachel seems particularly annoyed with that narrative and provides concrete evidence its a load of malarkey.
Tad Devine is taking the Sanders campaign down a dangerous path that could ultimately damage whatever credit Bernie has built up in this election cycle. Both of these strategies stink of politics. Thats not supposed to be Bernies brand.
Seriously, watch it! Its really fascinating.
Gothmog
(145,667 posts)This is a good report on the silliness of the Sanders campaign claim http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/bernie-sanders-campaign-offers-awkward-take-state-the-race
Its easy to imagine folks from Team Clinton saying they werent exactly going all out to win in Idaho and Utah states Sanders won easily but competitive candidates for national office dont get to use that as an excuse when things arent going as well as theyd like.
At its root, Devines argument is that Team Sanders identified a series of early, delegate-rich states, but they chose not to bother with them. Thats not just a bad argument; its the kind of message thats probably going to irritate quite a few Sanders supporters who expect more from their team.
Making matters slightly worse, Tad Devines pitch isnt altogether accurate. In Virginia, for example one of the eight primaries in which he says Team Sanders chose not to compete plenty of campaign watchers know the senator actually made an effort in the commonwealth and lost anyway. The senator also campaigned in Texas, which is another one of the states Devine said the campaign wrote off.
As for the argument that Sanders wins in every place that we compete with her, even taken at face value, its not an especially compelling argument: Team Sanders made a real effort to win in states like Arizona, Nevada, Ohio, and Massachusetts, but he lost in each of them.
Dont be too surprised if Devine walks back his comments today. Its just not a message that does Team Sanders any favors.
Update: Devine also said the Sanders campaign chose to compete for state victories, rather than compete for delegate victories. I have no idea why the campaign would deliberately choose to compete by the wrong metric that would lead to defeat, but if I were a die-hard Sanders backer, this kind of rhetoric would be incredibly frustrating.
This excuse is so very weak
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Not anymore!
all american girl
(1,788 posts)I listen to her podcast...not visuals, and I could tell she was leaning towards Bernie, but I always thought she was fair and asked hard questions from both. Lately, listening to her, I feel she is not amused by them, the Bernie campaign. I like she doesn't seem to care care what the Bernie dudes think.
stopbush
(24,397 posts)Part of keeping your job/rep as an "insightful journalist" involves getting ahead of an emerging story and cutting bait with your previous opinions so you can say "I told you so" when the shit hits the fan.
BlueMTexpat
(15,374 posts)their own worst enemies.
all american girl
(1,788 posts)Bernie bros...a hide. They don't won't to know what I use to say before berniebr**, and yes they are. They don't seem to understand that there are a lot more people than millennials...old farts like me....mom of a millennial.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,304 posts)Sounds like an excuse a child would make. No wonder Sanders is so popular among the young.
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)liberal N proud
(60,347 posts)I say tough SHIT! If you don't participate, you can't expect to get the goodies.