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pandr32

(11,595 posts)
1. Well he could do what Rawmoney did and release a summary
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 10:59 AM
Apr 2016

That is a good way to hide whatever he wants to hide, and then properly file when he is no longer campaigning. Perhaps Jane made a killing last year with the ad buy commissions, or there was a paid speaking engagement or something--who knows?

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
2. It should be. Only Trump has shown less of his tax statements (none) than Bernie.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 11:14 AM
Apr 2016

Since he questions Hillary's private speeches to corporations and continues to ridicule her for not releasing them (if she could since they're the property of the corporation she held the speech for), his refusing to release his full and complete tax statements (should be 14, just like Hillary Clinton has) should be pointed out.

It should also be pointed out that private speeches transcripts have never been demanded of presidential candidates to be released to the public but presidential candidates have traditionally released their complete filed tax returns. And then we should question him why he's, so far, refusing.

What do you have to hide, Bernie? Afraid maybe people will discover you're one of those "millionaires and billionaires" you've been demonizing throughout your campaign, and that you've been projecting an "every man" image that doesn't bear out when the facts are scrutinized?

George II

(67,782 posts)
4. It boggles my mind that he's earned almost $5M in the last 25 years working in the House...
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 11:22 AM
Apr 2016

...and Senate, and who knows how much his household has earned. Yet his reported net worth is about one-third that of mine (for the record, I never broke that $100K mark)

Is this the type of spender we want in the White House?

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
7. I believe I've read that he's moved all his assets under his wife's name. It's probably the reason
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:11 PM
Apr 2016

he doesn't want to release his complete and filed tax returns from before 2014 (or 2014, for that matter).

It would kill is "everyday working man" image that he's so careful to protect.

When Bernie supporters come at me (and they really shouldn't) and say that they want to see Hillary's speech transcripts, I come back at them and tell them, "After Bernie shows his full medical AND more than his 1040 Form for 2014." They usually back down then.

George II

(67,782 posts)
8. Makes one wonder, doesn't it? All those years earning the upper end of $100K (~ $150 and up)....
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:18 PM
Apr 2016

...and his wife earning about the same, and they have net worth of only $500K and about $50K in credit card debt?

The most I ever had in credit card debt was about $4000, and that was during the two or three years after I got out of college.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
10. I wouldn't be surprised if the Sanders' have transferred money into some foreign bank account
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:25 PM
Apr 2016

for later use when he finally retires from doing nothing in the Senate.

As I've contended from the start, Bernie suffers from class envy. It's the core reason he's so angry at "millionares and billionaires". He believes he's entitled to that class as well.

Sure, he might be a millionaire (hard to know since he won't release his filed Federal tax returns!) but he's nowhere near as wealthy as his colleagues. Still, a millionaire with $1 million dollars stashed in some foreign bank account, tax free, and a millionaire who can write his own campaign a $1 million dollar check, is still a millionaire by any working Americans' standards.

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
6. Just to preserve credibility. :-)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:27 PM
Apr 2016

&quot if she could since they're the property of the corporation she held the speech for),"

I think they are, actually, her property.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
9. I don't think they are. They paid for those speeches. I'm certain they're property of the
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:19 PM
Apr 2016

corporation who paid for them and they might contain proprietary info. So I don't believe anyone should ask for those transcripts since no one's ever asked for speech transcripts before in any presidential primary or general election.

So why hold Hillary to a double standard? Because she's a woman?

HOWEVER, presidential candidates have always, ALWAYS, released their filed, full, and complete tax returns (so we know they're not hiding shit) so why hasn't Bernie? He's only released his IRS 1040 Form and ONLY for 2014. What's the hold up? He's been in Congress for 25+ years so he should produce 25+ years of his Federal tax returns - and not just the 1040 Form.

It will shock his supporters to know he's one of those "millionaires" he so loves to demonize (hypocritically, I may add) - a person who could write his campaign a $1 million dollar check - something not even Obama was able to do.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
5. It should be
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:12 PM
Apr 2016

I certainly could release mine to prove I'm not a millionaire-billionaire part of the third-way oligarchy establishment. Why can't he?

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
11. Perhaps THIS has something to do with the Tax secrecy.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:36 PM
Apr 2016
Sanders and Wife Steered Campaign, Nonprofit Money to Family and Friends

Public records show pattern of payments to Democratic presidential candidate’s inner circle

http://freebeacon.com/politics/sanders-and-wife-steered-campaign-nonprofit-money-to-family-and-friends/

And THIS:
A new report suggests that Democratic presidential candidateSen. Bernie Sanders and his wife have repeatedly done the most socialist thing ever: funnel thousands of campaign and nonprofit dollars toward family members and friends.

According to an investigation by the right-leaning Washington Free Beacon, Sanders’s spouse of 27 years, Jane O’Meara Sanders, and his stepdaughter, Carina Driscoll, both drew sizable salaries from Sanders’s House campaigns between 2000 and 2004. Public records examined by the online paper reportedly show O’Meara Sanders was paid “more than $90,000 for consulting and ad placement services” between 2002 and 2004, while Driscoll received $65,000 from the campaign over the course of four years.

But while it’s not unheard of for campaigns to bring family members on board, the Free Beacon’s revelations about Sanders’s wife’s tenure as the president of Burlington College will certainly raise eyebrows. During her time there, the college paid nearly $500,000 to the Vermont Woodworking School, run by Driscoll, for classes, according to the Free Beacon. The college also reportedly paid tens of thousands of dollars to an all-inclusive Caribbean resort run by Jonathan Leopold,the son of a family friend, for a study-abroad program. Between 2009 and 2011, when O’Meara Sanders stepped down, Burlington College paid around $68,000 to the resort. The Free Beacon reports that payments to both the woodworking school and the resort stopped soon after she left.

A request for comment from the Sanders campaign was not immediately returned.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/01/bernie-sanders-family-money

Vanity Fair also reported that:
"Infamously, O’Meara Sanders was not known for her fiscal responsibility while president of Burlington,"

But this was immediately attacked by Weaver, sayng,"..Everything here has been churned through stories before. Just because a partisan source regurgitates them does not make it news.”

Right, Mr Weaver, doesn't this sound exactly what bernies campaign has done to Hillary on a daily basis. .."churned through stories..partisan regurgitation"

Google has more..if you"re interested :

https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&client=ms-android-att-us&source=android-browser&q=jane+sanders+charitable+caribbean+tax+shelter

livetohike

(22,156 posts)
13. Vetting. Time for it to begin. Long over due.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:47 PM
Apr 2016

What will Sanders do with all of this campaign money once he loses?

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
14. Jane's "Charitable Caribbean Tax Shelter" needs a look,
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:51 PM
Apr 2016

Considering the edgy Burlington College land deal/Bank Loan she orchestrated.

Trustability??
Hardly, & others feel the same way.

Group calls for fraud investigation into Jane Sanders' land deals

http://www.wcax.com/story/30935632/group-calls-for-fraud-investigation-into-jane-sanders-land-deals

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