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Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 04:06 AM Apr 2016

Feel the empty seats: Bernie Sanders sees “disappointing” turnout for Wisconsin rally

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/feel-the-empty-seats-bernie-sanders-holds-wisconsin-rally-in-75-emp


What a difference a camera angle makes. The photos being posted on social media of tonight’s Bernie Sanders rally in Madison, Wisconsin by his own supporters appear to show an entirely full Kohl Center arena, whose capacity is more than seventeen thousand. But the photo posted by a reporter for the local ABC News affiliate reveals that the vast majority of the venue was in fact empty. The local police have also confirmed the low turnout number.

WKOW Madison reporter Greg Neumann, who was reporting from the event, tweeted that many in attendance were “saying they’re disappointed by the turnout” for the event. He posted a photo revealing that while attendees had been stuffed into one specific segment of the arena, the majority of the building was vacant. The Madison Police Department subsequently tweeted that turnout for the event was just 4,400 people, meaning the building was 75% empty.

It’s not clear why the turnout for the Sanders event ended up being so small. Madison has a population of nearly a quarter million people, and the campaign appeared to expect a much larger crowd when it spent the significant sum of money required to book the Kohl Center for the evening; otherwise it could have relied on a smaller and less expensive venue. But whatever the reason, it suggests that the people of Wisconsin may not be “Feeling the Bern” in the way that some west coast cities have. State polls show that Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton are neck and neck in Wisconsin just two days before voting


Still Neck and Neck maybe it will turn for Hillary......
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Feel the empty seats: Bernie Sanders sees “disappointing” turnout for Wisconsin rally (Original Post) Iamaartist Apr 2016 OP
Wow. That's a YUGE amount of empty seats. stopbush Apr 2016 #1
It is and hope this pattern continues... Iamaartist Apr 2016 #2
whow -only 4,000 per police report riversedge Apr 2016 #3
wow is right !!! Iamaartist Apr 2016 #5
UW-Madison Police: Crowd count is 4,400............ riversedge Apr 2016 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author bjo59 Apr 2016 #4
"Senator himself told me (Reporter) he expects 4,000 here tonight" then why WASTE $$ riversedge Apr 2016 #6
right way waste the money it is unreal.... Iamaartist Apr 2016 #7
wow Iamaartist Apr 2016 #9
Maybe a little birdie told him there would only be 4000 there. livetohike Apr 2016 #16
Free birds are showing up ...lol Iamaartist Apr 2016 #17
Love it! LOL livetohike Apr 2016 #53
Maybe Devine gets a cut of venue rentals too? KittyWampus Apr 2016 #26
It's the same rally over and over. LisaM Apr 2016 #10
boring him ....... Iamaartist Apr 2016 #11
FEEL THE BROKEN RECORD! RBInMaine Apr 2016 #13
Even the birds stayed home this time. Tanuki Apr 2016 #12
LOL! livetohike Apr 2016 #14
You beat me to it liberal N proud Apr 2016 #18
Catherine Kramer flipped the birds Saturday in Nevada. Cha Apr 2016 #22
LOL SunSeeker Apr 2016 #46
The novelty is wearing off. Some in the crowd were disappointed at the livetohike Apr 2016 #15
He hit his peak mid-March pandr32 Apr 2016 #33
I agree. Boring for sure. Also, I'll bet he switched to ranting against billionaires livetohike Apr 2016 #36
For sure! pandr32 Apr 2016 #41
He can't use the "millionaires" slam anymore because he's become one jmowreader Apr 2016 #50
True, there is that, too! pandr32 Apr 2016 #54
At his Milwaukee "racial" town hall the night before, turnout was abysmal Rose Siding Apr 2016 #19
I was looking for these pics earlier.. I had seen them on The Obama Diary a couple of days ago Cha Apr 2016 #21
I watched as much of that meeting that I could stand on youtube. Rose Siding Apr 2016 #23
Oh nooooo! He says that?! good grief I don't know how anyone can stomach that.. Cha Apr 2016 #27
My bad- he said Rose Siding Apr 2016 #29
OH, HAHAHAAHA.. I believed it. Well, Cha Apr 2016 #38
Cohen's right Rose Siding Apr 2016 #39
Well considering ppl are comparing him to Jesus.... giftedgirl77 Apr 2016 #28
I suffered a typo fail. He actually said... Rose Siding Apr 2016 #30
Lol, that makes more sense. giftedgirl77 Apr 2016 #31
This so perfect!!! Her Sister Apr 2016 #32
He's an idiot grasping for his last straw. Barack Obama was born to be livetohike Apr 2016 #37
Exactly Rose Siding Apr 2016 #40
That's a riot... but it's so easy to imagine him saying it! Walk away Apr 2016 #48
That's why his parents went to so BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #42
Thank-you for Photos Iamaartist Apr 2016 #25
So much for those "inroads" pandr32 Apr 2016 #35
Thanks! I'd love to see more photos like this. :-) nt LAS14 Apr 2016 #45
That's pathetic NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #49
!!! Tarheel_Dem Apr 2016 #52
Anyone know what the cost is to rent the Kohl Center for a night? I'd be interested to find out. CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #20
Not feeling the bern, I guess mcar Apr 2016 #24
Maybe the consequences of getting to know him Her Sister Apr 2016 #34
Perhaps what happened in NV BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #43
Thanks. I needed that. LAS14 Apr 2016 #44
Feel the bernout. SunSeeker Apr 2016 #47
Let's see littlebit Apr 2016 #51

riversedge

(70,270 posts)
3. whow -only 4,000 per police report
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 04:17 AM
Apr 2016



...

WKOW Madison reporter Greg Neumann, who was reporting from the event, tweeted that many in attendance were “saying they’re disappointed by the turnout” for the event. He posted a photo revealing that while attendees had been stuffed into one specific segment of the arena, the majority of the building was vacant. The Madison Police Department subsequently tweeted that turnout for the event was just 4,400 people, meaning the building was 75% empty.

riversedge

(70,270 posts)
8. UW-Madison Police: Crowd count is 4,400............
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 05:05 AM
Apr 2016


A.J. Bayatpour Retweeted
UW-Madison Police ?@UWMadisonPolice 9h9 hours ago

Sen. Sanders has taken the podium at the Kohl Center. Crowd count is 4,400.

Response to Iamaartist (Original post)

riversedge

(70,270 posts)
6. "Senator himself told me (Reporter) he expects 4,000 here tonight" then why WASTE $$
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 04:47 AM
Apr 2016

on the Kohl Center--holds 17,000--but it is expensive to rent. It is right on the UW-Madison campus.


A.J. Bayatpour ?@AJBayatpour 9h9 hours ago

Crowd not overwhelming for Sanders rally at Kohl Center. Senator himself told me he expects 4,000 here tonight.


Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
9. wow
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 05:07 AM
Apr 2016

wow holds more then ours...is about 14000 in Kent County Mich
but then we have Auburn Hills arena outside of Detroit and Joe Louis arena holds about 22000 not sure on that number is right

LisaM

(27,820 posts)
10. It's the same rally over and over.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 05:31 AM
Apr 2016

What is there to see at this point? He's beginning to exhaust the college circuit, apparently, and these rallies are more GOTV than anything. I got in a small spat with someone the other day who was complaining that the fourth rally in the Pacific Northwest in ten days wasn't treated as national news but how is it? Same old story, same old show.

livetohike

(22,156 posts)
15. The novelty is wearing off. Some in the crowd were disappointed at the
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 07:25 AM
Apr 2016

turn out. Why? My theory is they were expecting an "event", like a jam packed rock concert, and they didn't get it.

Flame out.

pandr32

(11,601 posts)
33. He hit his peak mid-March
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 10:03 AM
Apr 2016

The message is old. Really old, actually--he has been saying the same speech, save the inserted Hillary smears for decades. He even talked of needing a political revolution. The only difference between then and now is he has switched out the old reference to "millionaires" with "billionaires" because, you know, a million bucks ain't as much as it used to be.
He is boring and predictable, and desperate.

livetohike

(22,156 posts)
36. I agree. Boring for sure. Also, I'll bet he switched to ranting against billionaires
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 10:10 AM
Apr 2016

because he and Jane are millionaires !

pandr32

(11,601 posts)
41. For sure!
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 10:57 AM
Apr 2016

I wonder how he will cover that up. He does little, from what I have been able to tell, for others, too. No charitable foundation...nothing.

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
19. At his Milwaukee "racial" town hall the night before, turnout was abysmal
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 09:07 AM
Apr 2016


Could have stacked up many more-

John WagnerVerified account ?@WPJohnWagner Apr 2
A rarity on the campaign trail. A Bernie Sanders event with empty seats. A town hall on racial issues in Milwaukee.



https://twitter.com/WPJohnWagner/status/716392211684962304

Cha

(297,497 posts)
21. I was looking for these pics earlier.. I had seen them on The Obama Diary a couple of days ago
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 09:15 AM
Apr 2016

and I couldn't find them.. but, here they are!

On racial issues.. it figures unfortunately.

Thank you, Rose~ How 1984,, "A future to believe in" .. uh huh

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
23. I watched as much of that meeting that I could stand on youtube.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 09:22 AM
Apr 2016

He really loved saying he was *edit to add: NOT* born like one of those candidates who was "destined" to be president. He said it a couple of times while relaying his humble beginnings.

Who does he imagine anyone believes was destined to be president?! Hillary?! Because oh I'm so sure that as soon as girl babies were born in the 50s that's what EVERYONE said: SHE looks like a president! Except the moms of course, many of whom were still under anesthesia.

Cha

(297,497 posts)
27. Oh nooooo! He says that?! good grief I don't know how anyone can stomach that..
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 09:38 AM
Apr 2016


I think mitt thought he was destined to be president too.. and that just didn't happen.. He has to know he's NOT going to be.. Is BS going to eat his words when he has to end his campaign?

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
29. My bad- he said
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 09:51 AM
Apr 2016

He was NOT born destined (as though some other candidate believed they WERE destined to be...)

Cha

(297,497 posts)
38. OH, HAHAHAAHA.. I believed it. Well,
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 10:12 AM
Apr 2016

the ****** still had it wrong, didn't he.

How creepy.. freaking personalized shit. And they just eat it up.

I saw a Tweet recently from Michael Cohen that sums that up..

Michael Cohen ??@speechboy71
For Sanders to be attacking Clinton personally when he has almost no chance of winning will be a sad bookmark to his campaign
7:00 AM - 27 Mar 2016
336 336 Retweets 507 507 likes

http://theobamadiary.com/2016/04/02/early-bird-chat-712/

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
39. Cohen's right
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 10:16 AM
Apr 2016

BS shredded his good guy brand which was really all he had going for him with the broader public.

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
30. I suffered a typo fail. He actually said...
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 09:52 AM
Apr 2016

He was NOT born destined (as though some other candidate believed they WERE destined to be...)

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
32. This so perfect!!!
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 10:02 AM
Apr 2016
Who does he imagine anyone believes was destined to be president?! Hillary?! Because oh I'm so sure that as soon as girl babies were born in the 50s that's what EVERYONE said: SHE looks like a president! Except the moms of course, many of whom were still under anesthesia.



lol!

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
40. Exactly
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 10:23 AM
Apr 2016

BS was probably trying to establish some sort of common ground with his audience at this meeting re:race. But look what he did- he assumed the most common ground he could express was being poor. Doesn't that assume an attribute for his audience that is a little insulting? Black does not equal poor! He's done that before.

This time it reminded me of that old Steve Martin line, "I was born a poor black child"

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
48. That's a riot... but it's so easy to imagine him saying it!
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 07:04 PM
Apr 2016

Poor Bernie...New York is busy digging a great big hole for him as we speak!

BlueMTexpat

(15,370 posts)
42. That's why his parents went to so
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 11:42 AM
Apr 2016

much trouble to alter medical and birth records in HI in 1961 when "everyone" knows that he was born in Kenya!

Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
25. Thank-you for Photos
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 09:23 AM
Apr 2016

Now if she can win there.....being a Dem your for everyone regardless who we are....

pandr32

(11,601 posts)
35. So much for those "inroads"
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 10:09 AM
Apr 2016

I guess everyone figured out that there isn't anything more to Bernie than the single issue he has lectured about for decades, and that one works better in smaller, mostly white states. Back to Vermont you go Bernie.
Without cheating--he is toast.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
49. That's pathetic
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 07:12 PM
Apr 2016

but as it's in an AA Community town hall, predictable. AAs have been staying away from him in droves.

 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
20. Anyone know what the cost is to rent the Kohl Center for a night? I'd be interested to find out.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 09:11 AM
Apr 2016

Or are there any local Hillary Group members who know of alternate sites that could have better handled a 4,400 person crowd?

BlueMTexpat

(15,370 posts)
43. Perhaps what happened in NV
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 11:45 AM
Apr 2016

this weekend was a tad too much for those who might otherwise have come.

That was the final straw for me and for others I know. Lost goodwill is VERY hard to regain.

littlebit

(1,728 posts)
51. Let's see
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:54 AM
Apr 2016

go out on a Monday night in 28 degree weather to hear the same old tired speech or sit at home all nice and warm and watch my Tarheels get beat. Damn that is a really had decision.

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