Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumAbout those speech transcripts...
I posted this in GDP also - http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511645807 should anyone want to Recommend it.
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I think Hillary is doing the right thing by refusing to release her Goldman Sachs transcripts. Its the right thing because she would be the best candidate to be elected president. Its the right thing because in this extremist hateful atmosphere her comments would be cherry picked to provide more distracting irrelevant fodder for the Hate Hillary campaign. Stuff like Im happy to be here tonight. No! She should want to destroy them completely!
After being secretary of state, she went on a speaking tour as virtually all (all???) modern secretaries of state have done. Given her already healthy million dollar income as a best-selling author*, I doubt if money was the motivator. Certainly not a paltry $250,000. I expect she looked forward to sharing her view of the world, especially with people who operated internationally
a chance to make a case for certain points of view. I dont know for sure, but thats OK. Im one of those who trust her.
Yes, Hillary is a member of the establishment. For me that is not a negative. I think the establishment is a mix of good and bad**, and I want my politicians to be able to find the good in the other side. To find points of compromise so that progress toward a better, fairer, cleaner society can be made without tearing it down first. Anyway, she has experience with people smearing her with innocuous behavior and statements. Im glad shes avoiding sharing picking grounds with the Hillary Haters.
And I'm glad she talked to the Goldman Sachs people in the first place. Not too long ago Democrats were lamenting the gridlock in congress. How people no longer talked to each other. Why should we be embarrassed that Hillary will talk to Goldman Sachs people?
*Its OK for women to make lots of money, right? Or maybe she should have stayed home and baked cookies?
** More of my thoughts on the establishment http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511610868
question everything
(47,518 posts)LAS14
(13,783 posts)CalvinballPro
(1,019 posts)is the "anti-establishment" candidate? That phrase means nothing then.
And Hillary is the first woman with a viable chance at winning not just a national party nomination, but the White House itself, but she's not "revolutionary?" Another word being twisted out of context for selective purposes.
The speech obsession is about the Sanders fans assuming they already know the content and how bad it must be for her. But what happens when you assume...?
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)and I agree with other comment here that BS has been in elected office longer than Hillary, he is long time politician!
Much of what people want us to see as negative is just trying to open a door so we can partake in the hate. Come join us in the hate! No Thanks! Am good!
Thanks for sharing LAS14.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)they may or may not contain privileged material. Goldman paid well for that info to be presented to their employees...now the Bernie group wants it released to everyone for free? I suspect that in addition to wanting to parse and take quotes out of context, there is a whole lot of envy that she makes so much money giving those speeches, while Bernie got a pittance for his fantasy rape essays in the alternative newspaper.
As for establishment...Bernie's one and only stable job was working in government. Once he got elected, found a comfortable chair and sat down for the next 30+ years, he gained the mantle of establishment. Apparently it bothers him a lot so he is trying very hard to recreate his college days.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)SharonClark
(10,014 posts)No one, except Bernie supporters, thinks getting paid for giving a speech is a bad thing.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Candidate who gets things done than an anti-establishment candidate who does not get anything done. I will stick with Hillary.