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Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 08:42 AM Apr 2016

Sanders' tax release claim rated as a "Whopper" by WaPo Fact Checker


Four Pinocchios
Whoppers.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/about-the-fact-checker/
Bernie Sanders’s false claim that he has released his full federal tax returns

........The Pinocchio Test

Plainly put, Sanders has not released his full federal tax return. The little he has released was the Form 1040 in 2014, which is a summary of his tax filing that gives a snapshot of his finances — not what is considered a full tax return. The Sanders campaign confirmed to The Washington Post that it has not released other tax returns prior to 2014, which is a sharp contrast to Clinton’s voluminous release of her complete tax returns.

Tapper correctly questioned Sanders, asking why “nobody has seen them [federal tax returns] at all.” Yet Sanders interrupted Tapper to reject the notion, insisting: “That is not true. Of course, we have released them in the past.” But this answer is nothing remotely close to the little federal tax records he has released to the public.

Sanders says there is nothing in his 2015 tax return that is different from what the public has “seen for the last many years.” This indicates he may have been referring to the information filed in his financial disclosures. But that’s not the same as a full federal tax return — and as a longtime member of Congress, Sanders should know that.

Sanders is not required to release his tax filings, and he clearly decided to keep them confidential. That’s his choice. But it doesn’t excuse him from misleading the public to believe otherwise with this false claim.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/04/05/bernie-sanderss-false-claim-that-he-has-released-his-full-federal-tax-returns/
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Sanders' tax release claim rated as a "Whopper" by WaPo Fact Checker (Original Post) Rose Siding Apr 2016 OP
4 Pinocchios.. it was 3 last time.. Cha Apr 2016 #1
I guess he's getting the media attention he wanted mcar Apr 2016 #2
He is hiding the tax returns, is he also hiding his money trail from lobbyists? Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #3
Definitely not the media coverage his CNN-protesting flunkies thought they'd get, right? CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #4
And, on msnbc, too.. Chris Hayes.. I'm talking to you.. Cha Apr 2016 #6
VETTING! HA! Her Sister Apr 2016 #5
Sanders is sure racking up the Pinocchios! pandr32 Apr 2016 #7
pants on fire sarae Apr 2016 #21
The faithful devotees cannot see it .. they come up with excuses n/t cosmicone Apr 2016 #8
Oh noes! St Bernard is pure of heart & walks the world in monk's robes! Jane, what have you done.... Hekate Apr 2016 #9
Makes me wonder what he is trying to hide. 4now Apr 2016 #10
KNR Thank you! Lucinda Apr 2016 #11
As I mentioned in a different thread, maybe it's Jane's taxes that are the problem. LisaM Apr 2016 #12
Don't forget that he is on record as being against Charities! Walk away Apr 2016 #13
Well, then it shouldn't matter in his tax returns, because he's already on record. LisaM Apr 2016 #15
Actually, it would, because they claimed $12000 spooky3 Apr 2016 #18
I simply meant that it shouldn't prejudice anyone if he didn't donate to charity LisaM Apr 2016 #20
gotcha! spooky3 Apr 2016 #22
12K? sheshe2 Apr 2016 #24
yes--on another thread there is a link to the (partially redacted) first 2 pp. of their 1040 spooky3 Apr 2016 #25
Agree SharonClark Apr 2016 #17
I respectfully disagree, but it doesn't change the BS problem. spooky3 Apr 2016 #19
I believe in paying experts fairly for their work. LisaM Apr 2016 #26
your pearls are rattling up a storm from being clutched so tight fpublic Apr 2016 #23
This is the Hillary GROUP! sheshe2 Apr 2016 #27
This vetting... wysi Apr 2016 #14
K&R fleabiscuit Apr 2016 #16
K&R! DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #28
Did anyone hear any media mention of the tax returns tonight? n/t nygurl Apr 2016 #29
 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
4. Definitely not the media coverage his CNN-protesting flunkies thought they'd get, right?
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 09:13 AM
Apr 2016

Welcome to being vetted, Bernie. I know it's a completely new experience for you, what with all the fawning coverage you're used to in Vermont.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
5. VETTING! HA!
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 09:17 AM
Apr 2016
During the 2006 Senate race, Sanders said he would release his tax returns if his opponent did so, and his campaign had said it was a “good idea” for political candidates to release their federal and state returns. But there is no indication that Sanders ever released his federal returns during that campaign.



2006!? What the heck? Going on?

sarae

(3,284 posts)
21. pants on fire
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 09:03 PM
Apr 2016

...and they claim Hillary is the "untrustworthy" one. Why does this man always get a free pass??

Hekate

(90,779 posts)
9. Oh noes! St Bernard is pure of heart & walks the world in monk's robes! Jane, what have you done....
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:09 PM
Apr 2016

Oh good grief, just release the damn tax returns.

LisaM

(27,827 posts)
12. As I mentioned in a different thread, maybe it's Jane's taxes that are the problem.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 04:44 PM
Apr 2016

1) Why is she preparing them instead of an accountant? That makes zero sense, frankly, at their income level and professional level (U.S. Senator, college president)

2) Did she receive a buyout when she was asked to resign from her college presidency? This is only a guess, but it intrigues me. Her career did not end on a very up note.

3) Maybe they are just a big fat mess. With a non-professional taking care of this task that should, frankly, be put into the hands of a capable CPA, maybe she just has an administrative mess on her hands.


Note: merely a guess. But we're all focusing on Bernie's taxes instead of their joint filing.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
13. Don't forget that he is on record as being against Charities!
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 04:51 PM
Apr 2016

it's possible that he hasn't donated a penny to any cause in his entire life. Maybe his greed is part of the problem too.

LisaM

(27,827 posts)
15. Well, then it shouldn't matter in his tax returns, because he's already on record.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 05:01 PM
Apr 2016

I'm not entirely unsympathetic with his position on charities because I think government should provide a lot more than it does. The reality, though, is that we live in a world where charitable contribution is necessary. I donate time and money to a few, though I'm pretty careful about it (careful as in making sure the organization is on the up and up).

spooky3

(34,467 posts)
18. Actually, it would, because they claimed $12000
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 07:53 PM
Apr 2016

In charitable contributions in 2014, per the two page filing, as someone posted on another thread.

LisaM

(27,827 posts)
20. I simply meant that it shouldn't prejudice anyone if he didn't donate to charity
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 08:45 PM
Apr 2016

If he's already on record as being anti-charity.

spooky3

(34,467 posts)
25. yes--on another thread there is a link to the (partially redacted) first 2 pp. of their 1040
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 12:37 AM
Apr 2016

that was required for something - Sen. disclosure rule? They had salary income of about $157000, plus SS, plus pension, plus some investments and other income.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
17. Agree
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 07:43 PM
Apr 2016

It doesn't make sense that a couple in their tax bracket does their own taxes. I have 3 good friends who are accountants and they want to know why Jane wants to put them out of work!

spooky3

(34,467 posts)
19. I respectfully disagree, but it doesn't change the BS problem.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 07:57 PM
Apr 2016

Unless they have a very complex situation, which they may have, packages like TurboTax automate so much that people with computer skills can do them.

But either way, there is no excuse for not disclosing them. If he wants to say he considers them private, he should say that. But if he wants credit for being open and honest, and he implies that HRC is hiding something bad by not disclosing private info about speeches, then he needs to get the info out there.

LisaM

(27,827 posts)
26. I believe in paying experts fairly for their work.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 12:40 AM
Apr 2016

They clearly don't respect the stylist profession.

fpublic

(58 posts)
23. your pearls are rattling up a storm from being clutched so tight
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:30 PM
Apr 2016

Isn't this called "concern trolling" to spend 3 paragraphs speculating that Sen. Sanders has some tax skeleton in his closet when you have no evidence of it.

Your "concern" about his tax preparation is just silly. Anyone with an 8th grade reading level can do their own taxes if they have a single income, a retired spouse, and simple assets. They don't need an accountant or tax preparer.

As a supporter of a candidate who has been vilified and conspired against forever, I would think you would see the pettiness of your strategy.

You want HRC to win and are anxious.... it's not looking good on you.

sheshe2

(83,868 posts)
27. This is the Hillary GROUP!
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 01:04 AM
Apr 2016
You want HRC to win and are anxious.... it's not looking good on you.


Your comments are not looking good on you! You took a wrong turn, you want the Sanders Group. They are over there. >
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