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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,192 posts)
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:06 AM Apr 2016

Barny Frank on Bernie Sanders

It didn't take long for Bernie Sanders, who was new to Congress in 1991, to frustrate the very people with whom he might have collaborated.

"Bernie alienates his natural allies," then-Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) told the Los Angeles Times just months after Sanders first took federal office. "His holier-than-thou attitude — saying in a very loud voice he is smarter than everyone else and purer than everyone else — really undercuts his effectiveness."

Frank tempered that assessment just a few months later: "Collegiality didn't come easily," he told the Times. "But he now fits in. He's very much an outsider, but not an outsider in the sense that he is isolated."

Yet, a quarter-century later, Frank's criticism of Sanders endures.

Why has it been so hard for a fellow liberal from New England to get behind Sanders? It's not his principles, Frank said, but rather his approach.

“Is pragmatism the opposite of idealism? Or is pragmatism a necessary adjunct to idealism?” Frank, a strong Hillary Clinton supporter, said in a Tuesday interview with The Washington Post.

"I think Bernie Sanders tends to have the approach, 'Don't be pragmatic, state your ideals, state what you think is the right policy and be very wary of compromise and of accepting less than you want,'" he said, echoing comments he made on MSNBC the night before. "My view has been to fight hard for the leftward, most achievable results."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/04/06/the-case-against-bernie-sanders-according-to-barney-frank/

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Barny Frank on Bernie Sanders (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2016 OP
Yes, it endures.. bernie's consistent doncha know? Cha Apr 2016 #1
"and be very wary of compromise and of accepting less than you want," BlueCaliDem Apr 2016 #2
You have nailed him, BCD. nt brer cat Apr 2016 #9
Sanders is self imposed outsider, never works with others, his notion of being the Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #3
"His holier-than-thou attitude" defines him perfectly pandr32 Apr 2016 #4
Am glad more and more people Her Sister Apr 2016 #5
I trust Barny Frank. displacedtexan Apr 2016 #6
and by cuppa you mean a shot and a beer? dlwickham Apr 2016 #7
Alas, no. Just coffee. displacedtexan Apr 2016 #10
I loves me some Barney Frank shenmue Apr 2016 #8
The problem is that our country is a representative democracy Lucinda Apr 2016 #11

Cha

(297,652 posts)
1. Yes, it endures.. bernie's consistent doncha know?
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:15 AM
Apr 2016

Thank you for this, Yo Mama. It's no wonder he hasn't had any Senators endorse him.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
2. "and be very wary of compromise and of accepting less than you want,"
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:18 AM
Apr 2016

This is not a progressive's stance. This is a tyrant's stance. I don't care if you label yourself a Liberal, a Socialist, a Democratic Socialist, but when you show this type of rigidity, you have nothing in common with the above and everything in common with tyrants who never change their minds, never compromise, and never listen to the people they purport to serve.

This stance and that gun-protectionism he hugs so tightly, even when children are massacred, tells me he has more in common with Republicans than Democrats despite his few votes that appear progressive. His constant criticism of President Obama, his constant attacks on the Democratic Party, his pro-gun protectionism, his being Inhof's BFF, his unwillingness to release more than one year of his tax filing and only two pages of it (a la Cruz), his use of RW talking points and rhetoric against Hillary Clinton for weeks...all these and more combined makes him, in essence, a moderate Republican.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. Sanders is self imposed outsider, never works with others, his notion of being the
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:20 AM
Apr 2016

Smartest in the room probably has been his worst thought, he was in a place of many smart people. Also if he was so smartbwhyb isn't he an expert on foreign policy and other issues which have been important to Americans. Frank told the correctc story on Sanders.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
6. I trust Barny Frank.
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:27 AM
Apr 2016

That's all For now. After serving on a jury for someone who called Clinton a "merchant of death," I need another cuppa.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
11. The problem is that our country is a representative democracy
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 05:31 PM
Apr 2016

and our elected officials have the job of making policy that best reflects the will of all the people, not just the parts we agree with.

By nature, it is difficult work, and those who undertake it should approach the process exactly as Hillary and Obama do, with firm resolve in their beliefs, but also acceptance that compromise is necessary to accomplish legislation that improves the lives of ALL of the American people.

Our government is designed that way for a reason, and it is, in part, to prevent the violent upheavals in peoples lives as elections happen, and one side or the other holds momentary power. It is a safeguard, not a weak point.

IMO Sanders, and others who operate with unyeilding tunnelvision, are not the sort of leaders that are capable of leading this country towards the greater good.

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