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Judi Lynn

(160,595 posts)
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 06:20 AM Jul 2013

Why is Latin America cooling on Catholicism?

Why is Latin America cooling on Catholicism?
Jul 22nd 2013, 16:17 by T.W.

WILD excitement greeted Pope Francis as he touched down in Rio de Janeiro on July 22nd. Brazil’s 123m Roman Catholics are doubly happy: firstly that the new Pope is making his maiden foreign trip to their country, and secondly because Francis, formerly known as Jorge Mario Bergoglio, is the first Latin American (Argentine) Pope. Nonetheless, the celebrations are more muted than in the past. Catholicism, which once had a near-monopoly on Latin American souls, is a waning force all over the region. Why are Latin Americans drifting away from Rome?

Latin America is still the world’s biggest bastion of Catholicism. About 40% of the world’s Roman Catholics live there. Brazil has the most; Mexico, smaller but more devout, is not far behind, with 93m. Mexico City’s Basilica of Our Lady the Virgin of Guadalupe vies with St Peter’s in Rome as the world’s most-visited Catholic church. But faith is fading. In 1970, 96% of Mexicans and 92% of Brazilians said they were Catholic. By 2010 the figures were 83% and 65%. In Central America the church’s decline is stronger still: its share has slipped below half in Honduras and is not far behind in El Salvador and Nicaragua.

Atheism, once virtually unheard of in the region, is now merely eccentric. But the main reason for Catholicism’s decline is the rise of other Christian brands. Protestantism claims 22% of Brazilian hearts, up from 5% in 1970 (most of that increase can be attributed to miracle-working Pentecostal churches). Part of the success is due to clever marketing: Central America’s feel-good evangelical mega-churches have growing television audiences as well as packed weekly congregations. They have been successful fishers of men in the countryside, where state services are scarce and evangelical charitable work is lapped up. During school holidays Central America teems with do-gooding yanqui Christian youths, flown in for a fortnight of latrine-digging. Many evangelicals also take a more forgiving line on social matters, where ever more Latin Americans are ignoring the teachings of the Catholic church. (More than half of Brazilian women in their late 20s cohabit with a partner to whom they are not married. As for contraception, Mexico’s birth rate is on course to sink below that of the United States.) The poor handling of child-abuse cases has hardly bolstered the Catholic church’s authority to lecture about what ought to go on in the bedroom.

Can Rome win back its flock? Pope Francis is taking a more hands-on approach than some of his predecessors: he is due to visit a Rio favela and hospital, as well as attending two events with young people in Copacabana. In Brazil the Catholic “charismatic movement”, whose handsome, extrovert priests have topped bookshops’ best-seller lists as well as the pop-music charts, is making some progress in connecting with young people. Meanwhile the Catholic church in El Salvador has set up its own television channel, which over Christmas features presenters in Santa hats. Don’t be surprised if Pope Francis, already known for his tango skills, can’t resist an impromptu samba session on the beach.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2013/07/economist-explains-15

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Why is Latin America cooling on Catholicism? (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jul 2013 OP
I don't trust the Economyst on any topic, least of all on a LatAm topic. Peace Patriot Jul 2013 #1
The timing is extremely odd, not so coincidental. As you asked, "Why?" Judi Lynn Jul 2013 #2
oh brother, you posted the story to begin with Bacchus4.0 Jul 2013 #3

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
1. I don't trust the Economyst on any topic, least of all on a LatAm topic.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 02:17 PM
Jul 2013

They are as bad as the New York Slimes, the Associated Pukes, Rotters and all the rest as to egregious bias against the LatAm Left. What are they up to here? Cuz they're up to something, no doubt about it.

Question no.1: Why did they publish this at all? It is very old news. And apart from percentage declines in public opinion polls (and we don't know what questions were asked, and we do know that opinion polls disfavor the poor), LatAm is still a very overwhelmingly Catholic region, with a new pope visiting, one of their own. Should the story be about the old news of declining percentages or should that be a mere footnote to a LatAm pope visiting LatAm with a strong anti-capitalist message?

Question no. 2: What is all this vague, opinion stuff from the reporter, such as "the celebrations are more muted than in the past." Facts, please. For instance, were the celebrations deliberately muted so as not to be ostentatious (aggravating to the poor)? HOW are the celebrations "more muted"? This broad assertion requires at least some facts to back it up. And, "Brazil has the most (Catholics); Mexico, smaller but more devout, is not far behind...". How do you figure out how "devout" somebody is? That is just bullshit writing. Why is the Economyst publishing this bullshit article at this time?

I think it's Pope Francis' anti-capitalist statements (just last week, as I recall). They've got to publish something about his trip, and it's got to be negative. Dig into the files and find the negative "spin," the reporter seems to have been instructed.

Judi Lynn

(160,595 posts)
2. The timing is extremely odd, not so coincidental. As you asked, "Why?"
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 02:56 PM
Jul 2013

U.S. American fundies have gone after LatAm in an all out assault. They had the President of Guatemala within their ranks in the 1980's, as he applied himself to genocide, they converted members of the death squads of his country, indoctrinated them to despise the Catholic Church, and as you may remember, the Holy Roller Pentecostal Church has been all over the place in the last few decades, even Cuba. People in the holy roller church services in Cuba, too, are flinging their arms in the air and rocking back and forth in some self-righteous, "holier than thou" charade on a weekly basis.

The Pentecostal-fueled Central American death squads left an indelible impression upon the survivors who live on with the stories of soldiers bashing babies heads against tree trunks, raping the women, hacking away at everyone with machetes, burning them alive in their homes, or throwing them, alive or dead, down wells.

There IS a war against the LatAm Catholic Church by those who would invade and steal the land, and enslave the people. And, of course, there's a war against the poor by some of the elites of the Catholic Church, itself.

There is an ongoing intention to take the Americas below the border and use them to the total benefit of foreign interests and the necessary turncoats and greedbags who sell themselves to foreign interests in order to assist the rape, pillage, and enslavement in true non-democratic style, or, business as usual.

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
3. oh brother, you posted the story to begin with
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 03:04 PM
Jul 2013

there has been a small but steady increase in Evangelical Christians over the past couple decades which those of us who are familiar with Latin American already know.

The most annoying thing I find is they sometimes proselytize and almost always broadcast their services outside the confines of the building where they host the service which can be extremely annoying.

Glad you've caught up with the decades long trend.

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