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Marcus IM

(2,223 posts)
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 02:08 PM Apr 2023

BREAKING: Abortion has been safe and free in Cuba for over half a century (and still is)


Abortion has been safe and free in Cuba for over half a century

Abortion has been safe and free in Cuba for over half a century. The first abortion law dates back to 1936, and allowed abortion on the same three grounds as were just approved in Chile this year. But due to social and government tolerance, private clinics offered abortions to Cuban women who could pay for them as well as women from other countries, especially the USA before 1959. In spite of criticism from the conservative religious sector, the law was reformed in 1965 to say that it is the woman who decides, abortion needs to take place at a hospital carried out by expert staff and it needs to be totally free. Then in 1987, the Penal Code, which is still in force, established that abortion is only a crime when it is done for profit, outside of health institutions, by non-medical staff or against a woman’s will.

https://www.safeabortionwomensright.org/news/cuba-abortion-has-been-safe-and-free-in-cuba-for-over-half-a-century/





Can you imagine that the brutal dictatorship allows for this? Free countries ban abortions, right?

As a Cuban, imo, the "brutal dictatorship" is not good at being brutal nor is it good at being a dictatorship.





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Judi Lynn

(160,616 posts)
1. Good grief! Did they ever drop the ball. Guess they don't even keep a record of women's cycles.
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 03:06 PM
Apr 2023

How the heck would they ever know if one of the "womens" got pregnant, then aborted, as if nothing ever happened? How could any one put her in prison?

Gee, Cuba needs to get its act together, like a US Republican-controlled state.

Sure hope none of these pregnant non-Gawd-fearing immoral "womens" will find out about Cuba and fly to another country, then buy a ticket to Cuba from there! That would make our Forefathers cry.







Marcus IM

(2,223 posts)
2. Cuba does so little to keep up with the dystopian imagination of many Americans.
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 04:14 PM
Apr 2023

I guess the Cuban gov't is busy marshaling their meager resources needed for people to live, rather than brutalizing women, children and their families.

Can you imagine how authoritarian it must be to not have 100+ mass shootings by April? Simply awful.

I mean, by American "standards" freedom is measured by the stacks of dead bodies.

Cuba, with the highest percentage of centenarian population, does poorly in this regard.

Sad. All of this.

CUBA HAS WORLD'S HIGHEST RATE OF OVER 100-YEAR-OLDS

About 1,800 Cubans are over 100 years old, making it the country with the highest rate of centenarians, an expert said on Saturday.

Eugenio Selman-Housein, chairman of the 120 Years Club and previously head of former Cuban leader Fidel Castro's medical team, also said " life expectancy has gone up to almost 80 years"

Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/cuba-has-worlds-highest-rate-of-over-100-year-olds-expert/articleshow/3069526.cms


Judi Lynn

(160,616 posts)
4. It must be painful for them to realize Cuban children are NOT dying of gunshots in numbers
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 06:03 PM
Apr 2023

greater than from any other cause, and it must drive them to distraction Cuban mothers get first rate
prenatal care, careful monitoring for themselves, and immediate close attention with infant care and innoculations for every conceivable childhood illness from the moment they are born, with the highest doctor/patient ratio in the world.

US fascists have been trying to claim through the later years that Cuba is treating doctors as servants, paying them slave wages, and forcing them to lives of poverty, unwilling to admit Cuban medical students get free medical educations and are asked to work for the Cuban public a set number of years, under contract, in return for their free educations, rather than being obligated to pay for their schooling for years and years after.

Public service is a concept fascists just don't get, and it terrifies run-of-the-mill fascist lunatics to envision anyone not putting great wealth first above everything else as his life's goal.

Many lazy readers don't bother to learn that there are US Americans who are dedicated to following Cuban doctors around the world and talking them into moving to the US for big bucks, in order to try to drain the Cuban medical population, but it doesn't seem to have the attraction they expect it would!

Having a sense of community with respect for one's fellow man and woman simply is too foreign, too incomprehensible to certain kinds of people to realize. Can't get 'er done.

For people like them, the highest achievement of some of their lives just might be breaking into the country's Capitol, stomping around with pro-slavery flags, or US flags which double as spears, and pooping in the hallways while shouting death threats to the political opposition. Done for the common good!

Marcus IM

(2,223 posts)
6. FYI, there are no casinos in Cuba.
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 11:09 PM
Apr 2023

Gambling was one of the first things banned after the 1959 Revolution.




People burn tables and roulette wheels outside the Plaza Hotel Casino in Old Havana, Cuba, in Jan. 1959



Judi Lynn

(160,616 posts)
7. I remember reading about the revolution cleaning out all the pathetic junk the Mafia owned,
Sun Apr 9, 2023, 04:41 AM
Apr 2023

throwing it all out in the streets, setting it on fire!

Havana had been known as the Bleephouse of the Caribbean for far too long, even having served as a R & R stop for the US Navy for years, as ships pulled up and stopped there and sailors staggered all over the city on shore leave. So close to home, too, but totally unlike "home," for sure.

One can only imagine how tired citizens had to be to be associated with such a cheap, vulgar image.

Here's a quick reference I just found:





Havana was also Havana for its uncontained sensuality, but with its own history which that erotic avalanche could only react to, despite the social conventions and the dictates of tradition. Nightlife, with its increasing cabarets, casinos and nightclubs, in fact functioned as a powerful rein for a looser and more distended relation between the sexes in the midst of that equally sensual music that comprised the city’s sound, made up among other genres by the mambo, cha-cha and the feeling.

. . .

But there was another type of life, also associated to those changes, and markedly red. According to several sources, referred to by Louis A. Pérez, in 1912 there were some 4,000 sex workers in Havana, a figure that rose to 7,400 in 1931 and reached 11,500 in the late 1950s, a 55 percent increase in a bit over two decades.

Around that same time, the city also had an entire infrastructure for the oldest trade of the world: some 270 brothels were operating. Their location in certain barrios did not prevent the existence of self-employed “ladies of the night,” like the ebony goddess which the young Guillermo Cabrera Infante bumped into in the surrounding areas of the Manzana de Gómez, with whom he went to forge steel for the first time for one peso, plus the same price for the hotel room, an entire institution of Cuban sex culture that today is extinct, at least as it was known until then.

A metaphor was popularly used to name the women like those of the Manzana de Gómez, and also of the Monte and Cienfuegos streets: “fleteras” (charters), which according to Manuel Moreno Fraginals comes from a word from the military and maritime Havana of the colony. “Fletero or fletante,” Moreno affirms, “is the person who chartered a ship or part of it to transport persons or merchandise” in a township of San Cristóbal that offered a plurality of services to a population of soldiers, sailors and gamblers, and also had the so-called slaves paid by the day or “earners,” many of whom prostituted themselves to pay their masters for their freedom.

Obviously, the Americans did not introduce prostitution or gambling in Cuba. But they contributed to raising their profile in a scenario of domestic crisis, through a wide-ranging network of services and officiants when the mafia stormed Havana and a tourism of hundreds of weekly flights started coming from Miami, Tampa, New York, Chicago…, together with the visitors who came by sea from Key West or other points of the continental geography like West Palm Beach and New Orleans.

In 1950, 194,000 U.S. travelers had landed; seven years later, in 1957, they already were 356,000. They came from all classes and social groups, in keeping with a moment in which tourism had been democratized with the low prices for transportation and accommodations due to the changes in the economy and specific market strategies and competition.

All this was occurring in the context of that erotic-sensual emergence in fashion, publicity and films, in which they left at home the restrictions and taboos proper of the puritan morale. The visitors came, of course, to the rooms of those recently built shining hotels, and to gamble their money in casinos and game rooms. But they also came for “romance” with the other, no matter what their sexual orientation was, and, of course, to enjoy the rumba, the rum and cigars.

Havana, Cuba, was definitively a place where “conscience went on holidays.” The Camelot of the libido.

https://oncubanews.com/en/cuba-usa/the-camelot-of-the-libido/

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Here's an article with a couple of photos showing inside a casino or two which ended up out on the street, on fire, during the revolution:

The Havana high life before Castro and the Revolution, 1920-1950

https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/havana-before-castro-1920-1950/

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