"chavez family and hundreds of OTHER criminal organizations" just a bit suspect. (sounds a bit reichwingish to me)

Let us know what you come up with. Chavez seems to have done pretty well for himself or the Venezuelan presidency pays really well.

with a great deal of skepticism. the implied charges of corruption see to that.

assertions pulled out of thin air, with certain agendas.

and, again, don't care what any of those people are worth.

and Beyonce 300 million continues.

Kim K 40 million (2010)

Tom Brady 100 million

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/nfl/tom-brady-net-worth/

you get the idea.

why on earth do you bring up more and more people to prove a point that is of no interest to me whatsoever?

For the sake of example, the George W Bush was suddenly worth a billion dollars and that was posted on DU. You would really respond with you don't care?

even given that Bush was born to a wealthy family, while even Obama's money is likely a result of his fame as a star politician. Nevertheless, they did not enrich themselves with the office of president. Chavez obviously did through corruption. Its the Bolivarian way!!!

of course this isn't the first corrupt leader we've ever seen in Latin America but $1 billion is alot given that Paul McCartney isn't even worth that much. Way to go Hugo!!!!

family is corrupt, nothing new there.

Read the article. The only mention of Chavez is speculation on how the handful of Venezuelan billionaires will do under Chavez's successor. http://www.forbes.com/sites/ricardogeromel/2013/03/05/what-does-chavezs-death-mean-for-venezuelas-billionaires/

Bacchus4.0 has been doing a disinformation number on Chavez here at DU for quite a while. It's time to stop.

By the way, did you ever hear of early efforts in the CIA's unending war against Fidel Castro, the era of Operation Mongoose? Once you start reading of the CIA psyop war, you will find a deep interest growing to know more, and you'll realize this was only ONE area of their skullduggery against a leftist, and it represents only the tiniest part of their total program against him and he is only one of the very many they have tried to destroy. They have also made over 600 attempts to murder him, which they have publically admitted, which were blocked by Cuba's secret service.

This information was finally uncovered through the Freedom of Information Act, LONG after the actual events.

Regarding a very similar jerk-off routine they concocted to use against Fidel Castro, in their Operation Mongoose program:

~snip~
Consider Operation Good Times, an attempt to "disillusion the Cuban population with Castro's image by distribution of fake photographic material." Craig proposed disseminating "a desired photograph, such as an obese Castro with two beauties in any situation desired, ostensibly within a room in the Castro residence, lavishly furnished and a table briming (sic) over with the most delectable Cuban food with an underlying caption (appropriately Cuban) such as 'My ration is different.'"

The image of a fat, satisfied Castro "should put even a Commie Dictator in the proper perspective with the underprivileged masses," Craig advised.

Most of Craig's plans never got off the ground, but other materials released by the ARRB document the anti-Castro propaganda operations that were actually conducted. On the one hand there were the overt operations, those openly supported by the United States. These included Voice of America broadcasts and State Department statements focusing on Cuba -- messages that were tailored (to the extent possible) to enhance the secret plans of Operation Mongoose.

On the covert side, the CIA did most of the media work. The agency's secret psywar duties included the production and dissemination of anti-Castro radio programs, newsreels, books and periodicals. The Cuban Revolutionary Council, an exile political group covertly created and secretly subsidized by the CIA, served as a major conduit for the propaganda messages and materials.

The newly released documents include a remarkable file of records from an inter-agency "Psychological Operations Group" set up to advance Lansdale's plans. Lt. Col. James Patchell of the Office of the Secretary of Defense attended the group's weekly meetings, and his notes of the sessions were relayed to Lansdale. Patchell's memos reveal how officials from the State Department, the Pentagon, the CIA and the U.S. Information Agency brainstormed ways of turning the tide of public opinion against Castro.

that is one of the reasons this thread has amused me so much. I am glad I am not the only one seeing it in operation.

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legitimate source, any figure is just so much speculation, particularly when it comes to someone the powers that be revile. funny that the people of venezuela, who might actually know more about him, don't seem to feel the same as you do.

Some of us have been pointing to corruption and incompetence of his administration forever. However, given he would always bad mouth the US, he was a hero here. All his corruption is ignored. You can search for yourself but you don't want to so we can just leave it at that. No need to respond to my posts either. Its all your choice.

therefore immediately giving away his bias. Secondly, the US is already Venezuela's largest purchaser of oil so allegations that the US wants him dead to get the oil is baseless. Thirdly, the US would have likely already killed him if that was the intention. Just some initial thoughts for now. I didn't realize until today how much personal fortune he amassed by stealing money from the people. Surely, Venezuela can do better. Probably not with Maduro though.

and its head, Jerry Brewer. Ha ha ha ha ha.

Here's his website, and his bio:

JERRY E. BREWER, Sr. CEO (President/C.E.O.: jbrewer@cjiausa.org) email

Over 30 years of professional management/leadership experience in the field of Criminal Justice, both within government and private sectors. Fifteen (15) years as CHIEF OF POLICE- three (3) states. U.S. CONGRESSIONAL AND STATE SENATE AND HOUSE honors. Well-documented and consistent record of crime reduction and strategic team building; including cost-efficient and exceptional service delivery to culturally diverse populations and major violent crime corridors. U.S. Government- trained COUNTERTERRORISM EXPERT and practitioner, with extensive service to Latin America and the Middle East as an intelligence community operative. Bilingual fluency- Spanish.

PUBLISHED AUTHOR AND INTERNATIONAL COLUMNIST on extensive criminal Justice topics-Intelligence; terrorism/counterterrorism; transnational organized crime; international Border security; domestic and international Policing, and related world events. Law enforcement administration/senior leadership; major case investigative management/homicide; intelligence-led policing, and operational security topics. Multi-state COURT CERTIFIED EXPERT WITNESS on complex issues. - PUBLISHED ARCHIVES: (www.scribd.com/jbrewer31 and www.mexidata.info).

funny if it were not so very, very sad, and so very, very transparent. you cannot even address the facts of who this source is that you quote in this thread, as though we must simply take it as gospel. sad, just. . . sad.

I readily admit its probably somewhat difficult to ascertain wealth gained through corruption. I doubt we can look at his tax returns and make the estimation that way.

Did you see Diosdado Cabello's house? He is the head of the national assembly and should be the interim president now if administration would bother following their own constitution.

I see lots of these in Toronto and GTA of Toronto.

Goes after Capriles and other in the opposition for owning much more modest houses and apartments.

http://www.sibci.gob.ve/

The Venezuelan governments corporate and public news gather recently ran a story about Capriles's sister's suppose "very rich" apartment in New York which costs far less than Diosdado's house!

As an aside, this official government website clearly shows almost all the non print media in Venezuela is clearly pro government. Note, VTV, Telesur, Tves and Vive TV are all listed there because they are all 24/7 pro Chavez. RCTV is gone, Globovision is in 3 citys. I challenge anyone here who speaks spanish to watch any of the below streams (convienent on the government website) to watch these and find any strong criticism of Chavez or the PSUV!

http://www.sibci.gob.ve/multimedia-tv-en-vivo-canal-venezolana-de-television/
http://www.sibci.gob.ve/multimedia-tv-en-vivo-canal-telesur/
http://www.sibci.gob.ve/multimedia-tv-en-vivo-canal-tves/
http://www.sibci.gob.ve/multimedia-tv-en-vivo-canal-vive-tv/

This is like president Romney putting a live stream of Fox news up on the whitehouse website, and hosting stories for Fox news about how corrupt the Obama administration was.

http://www.sibci.gob.ve/2013/03/por-peculado-doloso-imputan-a-madre-de-leopoldo-lopez/

name, and thanks for the laughs.

How would you feel if a theoretical republican president had news stories from Fox news on PBS and all different US government websites?

http://www.sibci.gob.ve/

Check it out yourself, it's something Bush would only have dreamed of. Does it make it OK if it says things you agree with??

It could be one of rmoney's weekend cottages, for all we know.

and, quite frankly, in 10 minutes, I can drive to one of the richer areas of town, and find a dozen houses that would make this thing look like a shack in comparison. now, where these people got their money, I have no idea, but the house pictured isn't exactly overwhelming compared to what I can see any day of the week in several areas of this town. and NOTHING compared to the neighborhood in which rmoney has one of his many houses.

To sink into equities, real estate and US Treasuries?

That's the problem in weak countries. The corporations walk away with the mineral wealth.

Let's see what they say.

286 Gustavo Cisneros & family
$4.4 B 67 media Venezuela

329 Lorenzo Mendoza & family
$4 B 47 beverages Venezuela

1031 Juan Carlos Escotet
$1.4 B 53 banking Venezuela

Nope, no Chavez there.

Let's use sources that might actually have real facts. Not too much to ask I hope.

your "source" claims was palmed by Hugo Chavez?

Carlos Andres Perez' Wiki:

~snip~
Impeachment

On 20 March 1993, Attorney General Ramón Escovar Salom introduced action against Pérez for the embezzlement of 250 million bolivars belonging to a presidential discretionary fund, or partida secreta. The issue had originally been brought to public scrutiny in November 1992 by journalist José Vicente Rangel. Pérez and his supporters claim the money was used to support the electoral process in Nicaragua. On 20 May 1993, the Supreme Court considered the accusation valid, and the following day the Senate voted to strip Pérez of his immunity.[6] Pérez refused to resign, but after the maximum 90 days temporary leave available to the President under Article 188 of the 1961 constitution, the National Congress removed Pérez from office permanently on 31 August.[6]

Based on the "fact" that Fidel owns all of and in Cuba.

Why respond at all if you ignore everything I write.

As a little background, my parents voted for Chavez in 98. He brought some needed changes, just many bad things we didn't expect.

Are his facts incorrect?

Tell me more about this CJIA and its 107 twitter followers that prompts you to give them any credence.

Most of those 107 followers are downright bizarre and the 112 people this Jerry Brewer/CJIA is following are downright vile. This speaks volumes about the kind of *information* you're peddling about Venezuela.

Eric Cantor?

Breitbart?

Chairman Republican National Committee?

GOP Majority Whip?

Condoleezza Rice?

Benjamin Netanyahu?

CapitolHillCubans?

TheBushCenter ?

FreedomWorks?

Rush Limbaugh?

Mike Huckabee?

Jeb Bush

NTARC?

Sean Hannity

Álvaro Uribe?

Paul Ryan?

Fmr Press Sec to George W. Bush?

Monica Crowley

Charles Krauthammer

Laura Ingraham?

Donald Rumsfeld?

Ann Coulter?

Roger Noriega?

Marco Rubio?

Rick Santorum?

Karl Rove?

Newt Gingrich?

And a bunch of Fox News, Fox News, Fox News, Fox News, Fox News, Fox News, Fox News?

https://twitter.com/cjiausa/following


SERIOUSLY, WTF dude!!!

That says it all. Great finding. Thank you.

Shows you just how dishonest their intents are.

On edit: The juries here are seeing through this barrage of rightwingers spreading this tripe. Great example of someone spreading the new rightwing propaganda about Chavez' billions here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022481460#post4

He just didn't notice his mask fell.

I just like to make it clear for anyone reading that that thinly disguised garbage who might not know.

I'll be happy to oblige.

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Educating deaf, dumb, and blind Chavistas is quite a challenge.

You won't go anywhere with your typical media parrot speech south of the border. Latin American wouldn't be the most progressive region of the contemporary world if their citizens were so ready to buy mainstream brainwashing bullshit.

in the popularity surveys conducted across Latin America for several years now.

Guess you don't know as much about the region as you pretend to.

Your obsession with pushing right wing information is of no interest to me but it's cute that you feel a need to *educate* people here.

so you'll just mislabel it and ignore it.

Typical no-information response.

Chavez's relationship with the FARC was well-known -- as is their continuing presence in Venezuela, despite the frantic Chavista denials.

And I suggest you stick to making remarks about the contents in the subject article, unless you have masochistic tendencies.