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polly7

(20,582 posts)
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:11 AM Mar 2013

Ten Things I Learned from Hugo Chávez

By Laura Wells

Source: Laura Wells: Solutions

Sunday, March 10, 2013


5. Empower your People, and your Peers, Connect with Everyone. It seemed to me that Chávez’ motto was to empower ordinary people, and also empower peers – heads-of-state across the continent and even across the world. He learned from history that a single country, attempting to strengthen its own sovereignty at the expense of the interests of a super-power, is in much better position when in partnership with other countries also standing strong. Chávez worked diligently with other South and Central American presidents to fulfill liberator Simon Bolivar’s dream of a united Latin America. They built alliances for trade, finance, telecommunications, culture, and governance. Chávez’ approach seemed to be: connect with everyone, even those who oppose you, because there may be a time when their rarely given support could help your mission. When Colombia acted in ways that harmed the region, Chávez initiated meetings to address the matter, and to maintain a working relationship for future times when Colombia would stand with Latin America. Chávez also connected with other heads-of-state around the world, including those in the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC), and he was willing to meet with American presidents from Clinton, to Bush, to Obama.


7. Ideas not Ideology. The goal of the Bolivarian Revolution is to create “socialism of the 21st century.” Chávez and the people at the base (“el base” is the Spanish term for grassroots) aimed to implement that through participatory democracy, operating in what they referred to as “el proceso” rather than by a fixed, top-down plan laid out for the next 5 or 10 years. Significantly, the oil industry had already been nationalized in 1976 but the profits benefited very few Venezuelans. When Chávez became president, his administration did not immediately implement programs to redistribute land and nationalize the means of production across the board. Instead, Venezuela moved steadily toward nationalizing industries when it became possible; toward expropriating abandoned factories for workers to start up production; and toward creating cooperatives – while prioritizing industries essential for all Venezuelans and helping the new entities to succeed by giving them government contracts.

8. Paso a Paso, Step by Step, It All Contributes. In political delegations with the Task Force on the Americas, other participants and I often met with activists who had been organizing for 40 years or more. We asked them how on earth they managed to keep going all that time when the system seemed irretrievably locked into a two-party system with an entrenched oligarchy. The activists smiled and shrugged, “Hay que luchar, paso a paso” – “You have to struggle, step by step.” During all my travels to see firsthand what was happening in Latin America, I gained a new appreciation of history and how you’re never sure what’s going to happen, but when you are committed you can keep moving forward. It becomes clear that everything we’re doing now will be of use once there’s a crack in the seemingly impenetrable system. That crack happened in Venezuela; Chávez was elected; and the country began to turn away from concentration of wealth and power in the hands of the 1%, toward a sharing of wealth and power in the hands of the 99%.

10. You Don’t have to be Perfect. There were any number of things Chavez said and actions he tried that could be criticized as going too far or not far enough, and yet he never stopped moving toward his mission of a better world. Of the many things Hugo Chávez tried in his life, the one that catapulted him into folk hero status in his country in 1992 was his 90-second speech in which he took responsibility for a military coup attempt that had failed, “por ahora” – for now. The next day the words “por ahora” were written on walls all over the place. Later Hugo Chávez would spend time with Fidel Castro, and together they would agree that the way to go in Latin America was no longer armed revolution, but rather electoral revolution, with an unwavering commitment to create a better world.


Full Article: http://www.zcommunications.org/ten-things-i-learned-from-hugo-ch-vez-by-laura-wells
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Ten Things I Learned from Hugo Chávez (Original Post) polly7 Mar 2013 OP
More stuff. Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #1
Can't you go find a woo-woo thread to piss on? nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #2
After about 200 threads gushing over Chavez for the better part of a week,... Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #3
Or give you a protected forum where you can post bullshit without getting called on it. nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #4
You're disputing the accuracy of my post? You really want to go there? Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #5
Bullshit. naaman fletcher Mar 2013 #6
Should we compile a list of your boy bush's best lines? Arctic Dave Mar 2013 #8
My boy Bush? LOL! Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #9
Yes naaman fletcher Mar 2013 #10
LOL. ocpagu Mar 2013 #13
You will have to give me a day naaman fletcher Mar 2013 #14
When you spout their talking points it knda gives it away. Arctic Dave Mar 2013 #11
How about someone who isn't insane. Can we start there? Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #12
Yes, we can! ocpagu Mar 2013 #16
So because someone is against Chávez, that automatically makes them a right-wing nutjob. Marksman_91 Mar 2013 #17
You got it Zorro Mar 2013 #18
It doesn't work here, insults from right-wingers butting into a progressive website, Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #19
Oh yes Zorro Mar 2013 #20
All of a sudden I'm a right-wiger simply because I never agreed for the most part with Chávez? Marksman_91 Mar 2013 #21
Clearly not "all of a sudden". n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #22
Criticism naaman fletcher Mar 2013 #7
Linda Wells, the *author*, explained what she meant in the sentences that follow pacalo Mar 2013 #15
 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
1. More stuff.
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:28 AM
Mar 2013

11. The US is probably using cancer as a weapon: ""It's very difficult to explain, even with the law of probabilities, what has been happening to some of us in Latin America. Would it be so strange that they've invented technology to spread cancer and we won't know about it for 50 years?"

12. The US caused the earthquake in Haiti through weapons testing by the Navy. But Haiti was just practice; the final target is destroying and taking over Iran by causing an earthquake there.

13. Opposition women are actually little girls. Referring to Condi Rice: “Remember, little girl, I’m like the thorn tree that flowers on the plain. Don’t mess with me, Condoleezza. Don’t mess with me, girl.”

14. Capitalism ended life on the Red Planet. "It would not be strange to hear that there had been civilization on Mars, but maybe capitalism arrived there, imperialism arrived, and finished off the planet.”

15. US aid to Haiti was simply a military occupation. "I read that 3,000 soldiers are arriving, Marines armed as if they were going to war. There is not a shortage of guns there, my God. Doctors, medicine, fuel, field hospitals, that's what the United States should send. They are occupying Haiti undercover."

Socialist dictators say the darndest things.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
3. After about 200 threads gushing over Chavez for the better part of a week,...
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:33 AM
Mar 2013

he's now fair game.

The OP gave us nothing new, just more genuflecting. It could have found a home on any of dozens and dozens of threads saying exactly the same thing.

If you cannot stand to hear something negative said about Chavez, then perhaps the admins can create a protected forum for you.

 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
6. Bullshit.
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:52 AM
Mar 2013

You used the phrase bullshit, which usually implies a lie or falsehood.

Was something he said untrue? If so, what?

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
8. Should we compile a list of your boy bush's best lines?
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 11:13 AM
Mar 2013

Fascist apologist say the darndest things.

Deeeerrrrrrrrrppp!

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
9. My boy Bush? LOL!
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 11:14 AM
Mar 2013

So, anyone who thinks that Hugo Chavez was NOT the second coming of the Christ automatically is a neocon?

 

ocpagu

(1,954 posts)
13. LOL.
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 02:04 PM
Mar 2013

Oh, yeah.

I can see millions and millions of peoples in America and elsewhere in the world going to the street to cry for Bush in his funeral. I can see how Iraqis, Afghanis, Pakistanis, Palestines, will be devastated for it. I can see Latin America declaring three days of mourning for Bush... and several articles in the press commenting about his intelligence, his charisma and how all of his actions in power were a result of his love for his people... and their freedoms.

You're not really trying to compare a filthy genocidal hated by the entire world and despised everywhere he stepped in with Hugo Chávez, are you?

 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
14. You will have to give me a day
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 03:42 PM
Mar 2013

I am on my phone with spotty Internet access for next 24 hours or so, put I have out together the list of comparisons in this forum a few time before (although not for a year or so). I'll get back to you tomorrow.

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
11. When you spout their talking points it knda gives it away.
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 11:51 AM
Mar 2013

Would you have rather another fascist tyrant ruled instead?

 

Marksman_91

(2,035 posts)
17. So because someone is against Chávez, that automatically makes them a right-wing nutjob.
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 09:42 PM
Mar 2013

That makes PERFECT sense.

It seems the Chávez idolators here are not tolerant at all about one tiny negative remark concerning their Messiah. Really nice way to lead by example, guys.

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
18. You got it
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 09:53 PM
Mar 2013

According to the acolytes of the cult of Chavez, those 94% of Americans who think Hugo was a douchebag are all right-wing nutjobs.

Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
19. It doesn't work here, insults from right-wingers butting into a progressive website,
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:04 PM
Mar 2013

accusing posters of deranged, psycho-sexual attachment to leftist leaders. Childish, obnoxious, and laughable.

No one has ever respected such underhanded, slimy ways of throwing #### at people you shouldn'd be bothering in the first place.

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
20. Oh yes
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:09 PM
Mar 2013

Enthusiastically embracing and supporting the governments of North Korea, Iran, Libya, and Syria are clearly signs of a progressive government.

 

Marksman_91

(2,035 posts)
21. All of a sudden I'm a right-wiger simply because I never agreed for the most part with Chávez?
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:11 PM
Mar 2013

Already making assumptions about one's political view based on their disagreement with someone about their own radical assumptions in the first place is VERY progressive on your part, Judi.

 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
7. Criticism
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:53 AM
Mar 2013
You Don’t have to be Perfect. There were any number of things Chavez said and actions he tried that could be criticized as going too far or not far enough

Like what?

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
15. Linda Wells, the *author*, explained what she meant in the sentences that follow
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 05:07 PM
Mar 2013

in that paragraph.

There were any number of things Chavez said and actions he tried that could be criticized as going too far...

Of the many things Hugo Chávez tried in his life, the one that catapulted him into folk hero status in his country in 1992 was his 90-second speech in which he took responsibility for a military coup attempt that had failed, “por ahora” – for now. The next day the words “por ahora” were written on walls all over the place.

...or not far enough:

Later Hugo Chávez would spend time with Fidel Castro, and together they would agree that the way to go in Latin America was no longer armed revolution, but rather electoral revolution, with an unwavering commitment to create a better world.

Full Article: http://www.zcommunications.org/ten-things-i-learned-from-hugo-ch-vez-by-laura-wells

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