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Inkfreak

(1,695 posts)
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 06:57 PM Sep 2014

What say you, group members?

On Thu Sep 4, 2014, 03:40 PM you sent an alert on the following post:

To call it rape when it involves a 15, 16 or 17 YO
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5489702

JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Thu Sep 4, 2014, 03:50 PM, and voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT ALONE.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Disgusting.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Alerter, you appear to disagree with his opinion. That's OK, so do I, but that is NOT a reason to hide something. Or alert on it for that matter.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This is simply someone's opinion. Discussion/debate would be more appropriate than alerting and hiding.
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Victim blaming..................

Apologies if this is should not be posted. I'm aware we tend to not do meta threads here, but that post just irritated me. This is my 3rd alert since joining. Just wanted to share and get your opinions. I'll take it down ASAP if I'm wrong.

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What say you, group members? (Original Post) Inkfreak Sep 2014 OP
I honestly have no idea WTF that post is trying to say. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2014 #1
Ya, I see that. Inkfreak Sep 2014 #2
The whole notion that... Veilex Sep 2014 #4
I've turned down sex/ jambo101 Sep 2014 #9
He was pretty unambiguous lumberjack_jeff Sep 2014 #3
Yeah...pretty disgusting. Veilex Sep 2014 #5
Not really.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2014 #6
I took the "ethics/rules" remarks as the OP's unwillingness Eleanors38 Sep 2014 #8
Sometimes, I wonder what is wrong with this place. kjones Sep 2014 #7
Age, not the sex of the person who was raped, is the important factor. In_The_Wind Sep 2014 #10

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
1. I honestly have no idea WTF that post is trying to say.
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 07:01 PM
Sep 2014

Some sort of veiled sarcasm, or a complete grammatical breakdown leading to them changing their opinion midway thru the first part.

Inkfreak

(1,695 posts)
2. Ya, I see that.
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 07:05 PM
Sep 2014

I'm a lil stoned, to be honest. So I reread it a few times. I just keep coming back to how it's ok for someone in an authoritative position should be allowed to get off easier because no man would turn down sex, regardless of age. I prolly should have just ignored it and moved on. But it bugs me.

 

Veilex

(1,555 posts)
4. The whole notion that...
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 08:01 PM
Sep 2014

"no man would turn down sex, regardless of age"- is patently false from the get go. I'll never sleep with a drunk woman, for a whole host of reasons, and have turned a few down because I could smell the alcohol.

jambo101

(797 posts)
9. I've turned down sex/
Thu Sep 11, 2014, 06:12 AM
Sep 2014

Usually because i dont like the baggage that comes along with it from some particular women.
Also on a couple of occasions i've turned down the opportunity for sex with teenage girls who developed a crush on me and made it apparent/obvious that they had no problems if i made sexual advances.. Sorry,give me a call when you turn 18.
Funny thing is they have now turned 18 and they aint calling

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
3. He was pretty unambiguous
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 07:17 PM
Sep 2014
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5489953

It's okay to have sex with underage boys because disapproval screws up the lives of good women.

This, and the jury that gave it the official DU seal of approval, are the reasons why we can't have nice things.

I wonder how many of the jurors think that they believe in equality?

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
6. Not really....
Thu Sep 4, 2014, 08:58 PM
Sep 2014

The first line is....

It's bad policy and screws up the lives of good women. I don't know this woman or anything about her but her life is messed up forever. She is likely a great teacher. In higher education, a relationship between a teacher and a student is forbidden by rules and ethics.


Then....

A college prof, make or female, would be fired for fraternization to this degree. And so should the woman in this case at a secondary school level. Enforcing ethics and rules are good for this type thing by protecting the integrity of the system.



It's all over the place.
 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
8. I took the "ethics/rules" remarks as the OP's unwillingness
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 10:31 AM
Sep 2014

to carry punishment for a woman any further.

I didn't take the jury decision as an endorsement, except to allow the discussion to proceed. Personally, I believe in equal treatment in similar circumstances.

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