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lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 02:07 PM Mar 2013

Where we are progressing... and where we are not. (xpost from GD)

[font color="green" size="5" face="times"]Where we are succeeding[/font]
Due to the fact that many crimes go unreported, the department of justice maintains a survey known as the Bureau of Justice Statistics, National Crime Victims Survey. The data shows that from the perspective of decreasing violence, the last eighteen years have been a massive success.


The violent crime rate dropped 60% between 1993 and 2011.


That drop was evident in every category of violent crime.


Rape has decreased 79%, and reporting rates have improved.

In 1996 Bill Clinton signed the DOMA and, like most of the rest of society, has now realized that this was a mistake. Marriage equality is a spreading reality.


The Obama administration is doing a reasonably good job diplomatically to reduce the risk of war.

The above is all great news, and we should continue doing what we're doing to continue to decrease crime and increase equality and improve our international standing.

[font color="green" size="5" face="times"]Where we are NOT succeeding[/font]

The Gini index is a statistical measure indicating the amount of income inequality of a given national economy. The US is rapidly approaching the .5 level, which is astonishingly bad - significantly worse than Mexico, home of the worlds richest man.


Global warming threatens everything. Inflation in medical care is destroying our middle and working classes. Our surveillance state is proceeding apace. The internet has been subverted by corporate interests and your civil liberties are being eroded, year by year.

I think collectively, we should concentrate our efforts on the issues that are eating our lunch NOW. Not the battles of our childhood.

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Where we are progressing... and where we are not. (xpost from GD) (Original Post) lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 OP
Just imagine rrneck Mar 2013 #1
Exactly right. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #2
Thank you for putting this in easy to grok graphical form, for all to see. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #3
If it bleeds it leads olddots Mar 2013 #4
Fear is great business. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #5

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
1. Just imagine
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 02:20 PM
Mar 2013

what would happen to the crime rate if we achieved greater economic parity. If health care were available to all. Just imagine how much crime is because of plain old economic injustice.

And part of the economic injustice that drives the existing crime rate is the exploitation of cultural issues for profit.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
3. Thank you for putting this in easy to grok graphical form, for all to see.
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 04:42 PM
Mar 2013

There is good news, not just here in the US but globally. The world is, overall, becoming less violent. Obviously the violence that still occurs; both domestically and abroad- is unacceptable. But pointing out the facts around the decline in crime rates should not be considered somehow "apologia" for the crime itself. For the life of me, I can't figure out how that works- facts are facts.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
4. If it bleeds it leads
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 06:01 PM
Mar 2013

the 24 hour news cycle sure doesn't pay much attention to progress and sells fear like there is no tomorrow .right now with gun violence being the scoop of the day you'd never know that things are getting more civil .People like to be scared ,horror movies make big money
shit everything is about money.
I'm only afraid of everything becoming just about money.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
5. Fear is great business.
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 06:05 PM
Mar 2013

It sells soap and brings in donations. It works for the NRA exactly the way it works for other advocacy organizations.

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