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Tansy_Gold

(17,867 posts)
Sun May 13, 2012, 10:26 PM May 2012

STOCK MARKET WATCH -- Monday, 14 May 2012


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Financial Sector Officials Convicted since 1/20/09 = [/font][font color=red]12[/font]
2/2/12 David Higgs and Salmaan Siddiqui, Credit Suisse, plead guilty to conspiracy involving valuation of MBS
3/6/12 Allen Stanford, former Caribbean billionaire and general schmuck, convicted on 13 of 14 counts in $2.2B Ponzi scheme, faces 20+ years in prison



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STOCK MARKET WATCH -- Monday, 14 May 2012 (Original Post) Tansy_Gold May 2012 OP
Well that cuts to the chase in one fell swoop. westerebus May 2012 #1
I really dislike depictions of violence Tansy_Gold May 2012 #2
For some of us "Iceland" is not exactly news. . . . . . Tansy_Gold May 2012 #3
We would have to behave ourselves if the neighbors showed up? westerebus May 2012 #6
Oh, I have no doubt WE would behave ourselves. Tansy_Gold May 2012 #8
At least it is getting noticed.... AnneD May 2012 #65
Thomas Cook warns shareholders on disposals (warning of bankruptcy) FarCenter May 2012 #4
The final death throes of the euro FarCenter May 2012 #5
MUST READ BLOCKBUSTER REPORT FROM TERI BUHL ON WHY JP MORGAN’S PROBLEMS ARE JUST BEGINNING girl gone mad May 2012 #7
It feels like Christmas, all of a sudden Demeter May 2012 #9
I'm still betting no one gets any jail time...at least nothing appreciable Roland99 May 2012 #27
There's going to be some changes--like sudden poverty among the former elite, though Demeter May 2012 #36
How often has that happened? spotbird May 2012 #63
I believe in black swans Demeter May 2012 #75
May is Move Our Money Month Demeter May 2012 #10
Gold! Haiti hopes ore find will spur mining boom Demeter May 2012 #11
A couple of mighty big "if"s in that quote Roland99 May 2012 #21
It does explain why Europe has NEVER let Haiti go, though Demeter May 2012 #28
Elizabeth Warren Calls for Dimon to Resign From New York Fed Demeter May 2012 #12
Hooray for Elizabeth! hamerfan May 2012 #14
The Financial World's Worst Nightmare Demeter May 2012 #13
I wish there were something to say that hasn't already been said and repeated Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #15
Then Our Only Choice is to Jump Demeter May 2012 #29
Yep. I just wish I could afford one of those parachute-airbag landing systems. Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #64
"enslave[d]... through wages, subservience to the commodity culture and debt peonage" bread_and_roses May 2012 #16
Modern day slavery in Florida. Fuddnik May 2012 #24
he better watch his back. I fear for this man's safety. Roland99 May 2012 #26
Comment allez-vous? xchrom May 2012 #17
Ahhhh... Roland99 May 2012 #22
Paris. westerebus May 2012 #33
heh...yeah Roland99 May 2012 #35
Stocks fall in Europe, Asia amid Greek turmoil xchrom May 2012 #18
US Futures: Look out below! Roland99 May 2012 #19
wow...10yr Treasury yields hitting 1.78% Roland99 May 2012 #25
Am I seeing things? The NIKKEI Chart and change do not seem to be in sync. n/t kickysnana May 2012 #20
Noticed that last night during a quick glance Roland99 May 2012 #23
They probably had a little QE party Demeter May 2012 #30
Sake will do that Roland99 May 2012 #31
Why We Regulate By PAUL KRUGMAN Demeter May 2012 #32
I Oughtta Get Me One of Those Demeter May 2012 #34
Happy Birthday Fuddnik! DemReadingDU May 2012 #37
Ditto! Ditto! Tansy_Gold May 2012 #44
Many Happy Returns of the Day! Demeter May 2012 #49
woo hoo! Happy bday! Roland99 May 2012 #51
I was over-served to put it mildly. Fuddnik May 2012 #61
Best of luck with that new endeavour! Roland99 May 2012 #62
Happiest of Birthdays.... AnneD May 2012 #67
JPMorgan probe into London role in loss Demeter May 2012 #38
Dreyfus to tap capital markets Demeter May 2012 #39
Canary Wharf set to upstage City Demeter May 2012 #40
Steven Rattner - Don’t overreact to JPMorgan’s loss Demeter May 2012 #41
could very well be $4-5 Billion, too. That's a bit more than pocket change, even to JPM Roland99 May 2012 #52
Mohamed El-Erian - The eurozone must shrink to survive Demeter May 2012 #42
Fear grows of Greece leaving euro Demeter May 2012 #45
Hard Currency: FT's new podcast on markets Demeter May 2012 #43
P MORGAN NAMES MATT ZAMES NEW CIO, INA DREW OUT xchrom May 2012 #46
Spain ready to intervene in Asturias Demeter May 2012 #47
mmm...Asturias Roland99 May 2012 #53
KRUGMAN: Here's How The Whole Eurozone Could Unravel In Just A Matter Of Months xchrom May 2012 #48
Jamie Dimon Sent In A Team Of 'Navy Seals' To Fix The Trading Blunder Before It Blew Up xchrom May 2012 #50
Eurozone industrial production falls back in March xchrom May 2012 #54
Just how much is JPM going to unwind? westerebus May 2012 #55
Oil just took out $94/bbl. Gold closing in on $1,550/oz. US indices -1% Roland99 May 2012 #56
** An Ex-LTCM Trader Will Be Overseeing $70 Trillion In Derivatives ** Roland99 May 2012 #57
Best Buy names new chairman (Hatim Tyabji to succeed Richard Schulze) Roland99 May 2012 #58
"More than 200,000 long-term jobless Americans will lose their unemployment..." bread_and_roses May 2012 #59
an hour in, markets still plumbing new daily lows Roland99 May 2012 #60
Dept. of Justice must actually be doing it's job re: oil manipulators just1voice May 2012 #66
It's the latter. girl gone mad May 2012 #68
The US dollar is stronger, too Roland99 May 2012 #70
To pay of their bad bets, JPMorgan needs to sell real things: gold, silver, oil Demeter May 2012 #76
The Fairies Are Earning Their Wings Today Demeter May 2012 #69
Oops! Mayday! Mayday! Losing altitude! Demeter May 2012 #71
Markets back to nearing the day's lows after a nice respite in negligible-loss land. Roland99 May 2012 #77
RoseAnn DeMoro Explains How to Raise $350 Billion from Financial Transaction Tax Demeter May 2012 #72
"The Amateur" Claims Obama Camp Offered Rev. Wright $150k To STFU Demeter May 2012 #73
I can't tell if I'm having an out-of-body or Demeter May 2012 #74

Tansy_Gold

(17,867 posts)
2. I really dislike depictions of violence
Sun May 13, 2012, 10:46 PM
May 2012

But I couldn't find any other good cartoons and really, this one did, shall we say, hit home.

westerebus

(2,976 posts)
6. We would have to behave ourselves if the neighbors showed up?
Sun May 13, 2012, 11:36 PM
May 2012

That would last for all of five minutes before all hell broke loose, in progressive tough love sort-a-kind-a way. Or not.

Tansy_Gold

(17,867 posts)
8. Oh, I have no doubt WE would behave ourselves.
Mon May 14, 2012, 01:15 AM
May 2012

(It's the neighbors who sometimes, you know, forget to bring their manners)

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
65. At least it is getting noticed....
Mon May 14, 2012, 12:55 PM
May 2012

by more folks.

Eventually, we will reach a tipping point. On that day people will realize that WE ARE THE GOVERNMENT AND WE MAKE THE RULES. They will see this red/blue thing for what it is; a divide and conquer ploy. They will realize why our media doesn't cover Iceland; we might get ideas and over throw our corporate overlords and their congressional lackeys.

On that day, the second American Revolution will have begun.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
4. Thomas Cook warns shareholders on disposals (warning of bankruptcy)
Sun May 13, 2012, 11:24 PM
May 2012

British travel company Thomas Cook warned its shareholders this weekend that the firm could go into administration if they fail to back two planned disposals.

Europe's second biggest holiday company posted documents to shareholders saying failure to support the planned sale and leaseback of some of its aircraft and the disposal of five hotels in Spain could jeopardise its lifeline with lenders.

http://www.france24.com/en/20120513-thomas-cook-warns-shareholders-disposals

Anyone for some cheap hotels in Spain?

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
5. The final death throes of the euro
Sun May 13, 2012, 11:35 PM
May 2012

It could happen voluntarily, but both the Greek people and Greek politicians are still clinging to the idea that they can put an end to austerity yet still stay in the euro. In order to try to achieve that, a new government may call the eurozone's bluff.

At that point, the other eurozone members would face an awkward choice. Doubtless there would be voices in favour of providing the money, willy nilly. That might well be the French position. But if the eurozone gives way on this, what chance would there be of painful austerity being continued, not just in Greece but also in Portugal, Spain, Italy and Ireland? The northern countries would face the prospect of pouring money into a bottomless pit.

Accordingly, it is likely, I think, that they would say: "It's your choice: we want you to stay in the euro (which isn't true yet has to be said) but you cannot do so on your own terms."

If the Greeks did not yield, then they would be out. For if they don't get the money, it isn't simply a matter of not being able to honour their debt obligations (i.e. defaulting); they would not be able to meet their obligations to pay wages and pensions. Moreover, if they could not get ECB funding for their banks, then their banking system would face implosion. At that stage, the only way out would be to move to a system where they can get funding from their own central bank – in other words, to come out of the euro.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/rogerbootle/9263156/The-final-death-throes-of-the-euro.html

girl gone mad

(20,634 posts)
7. MUST READ BLOCKBUSTER REPORT FROM TERI BUHL ON WHY JP MORGAN’S PROBLEMS ARE JUST BEGINNING
Mon May 14, 2012, 12:35 AM
May 2012

headline from Max Keiser, report from Teri Buhl:

SEC Tells JP Morgan Enforcement Action Coming over Bear’s Mortgage Backed Securities Violations

Fallout from JP Morgan trading losses, which led to rater Fitch downgrading their debt yesterday, aren’t the only financial worries the banking behemoth is facing. Nestled in that shocking 10-Q filed Thursday is an admission that their regulator, the Securities and Exchange Commission, thinks some of the details that lead to the explosive Ambac mortgage security fraud suit against the naughty stepchild of JPM, Bear Stearns/EMC, are worthy of an enforcement action. Yep- the SEC is giving or finally gave them a Wells Notice, which means according to their 10-Q (and their 10-K) in January 2012 the SEC’s investigation into the sins of Bear’s Mortgage team run by Tom Morano, Jeff Verschleiser, Mike Nierenberg and the subsequent cover up by JPM was worthy of a civil suit along with some penalties.

JPM’s 10-Q states “In January 2012, the Firm was advised by SEC staff that they are considering recommending to the Commission that civil or administrative actions be pursued arising out of two separate investigations they have been conducting… In both investigations, the Firm has submitted responses to the proposed actions.”

We see JP Morgan admit one of the Wells notices relates to the fraud actions first brought forward in the Ambac suit with this line from the 10-Q, “The second involves potential claims against Bear Stearns entities, JPMorgan Chase & Co. and J.P. Morgan Securities LLC relating to settlements of claims against originators involving loans included in a number of Bear Stearns securitizations.”

They are talking about a phrase I first coined called the ‘double dipping scheme’.

It’s black letter law that Wells submissions to the SEC are discoverable in civil litigation. So lawyers in the monoline suits against JPM/BEAR will surely be trying to get a copy of the wells notice via discovery.

I first reported the SEC started an investigation into these alleged securities violations (and possible criminal actions) after I saw the securities regulator approach the lawyers and whistleblowers in my Bear Stearns investigative report at The Atlantic the day after the story came out. Now a year later it appears all the ‘shitty deal’ emails, internal Bear Stearns documents, and over thirty whistleblowers who’ve come forward in the monoline suits lead by the New York office of law firm PBWT was enough to get the SEC to stand up to JPM and hopefully say ‘what you did violated securities laws and harmed investors’. Talk about another wave that could lead to tsunami style damage to Jamie Dimon’s ‘fortress balance sheet’.

How many billions in damages JP Morgan will have to pay out is not yet determined but inside their Mortgage-Backed Securities and Repurchase Litigation note on the 10-Q the bank tells us “There are currently pending and tolled investor and monoline claims involving approximately $120 billion of such securities.”

read more...
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
9. It feels like Christmas, all of a sudden
Mon May 14, 2012, 03:26 AM
May 2012

when all one's hopes and dreams come true...

(obviously they aren't nice dreams...hence the insomnia...)

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
36. There's going to be some changes--like sudden poverty among the former elite, though
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:28 AM
May 2012

That's a sentence that will never be pardoned or worked off (since they don't know how to work (create value from labor), in the first place).

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
10. May is Move Our Money Month
Mon May 14, 2012, 03:28 AM
May 2012
http://www.nationofchange.org/move-our-money-month-1336752561

Banks make money off of other people's money. A growing movement encourages ordinary people to invest their money in their communities, instead of in the “too big to fail” banks whose risky investments helped tank the economy.

A report from the firm Javelin Strategy and Research found that between November 2011 and January 2012 5.6 million people moved their money out of big banks and into local banks and credit unions.

&feature=player_embedded
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
11. Gold! Haiti hopes ore find will spur mining boom
Mon May 14, 2012, 03:33 AM
May 2012
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CB_HAITIS_BURIED_TREASURE?SITE=CAANG&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

TROU DU NORD, Haiti (AP) -- Its capital is blighted with earthquake rubble. Its countryside is shorn of trees, chopped down for fuel. And yet, Haiti's land may hold the key to relieving centuries of poverty, disaster and disease: There is gold hidden in its hills - and silver and copper, too.

A flurry of exploratory drilling in the past year has found precious metals worth potentially $20 billion deep below the tropical ridges in the country's northeastern mountains. Now, a mining company is drilling around the clock to determine how to get those metals out.

In neighboring Dominican Republic, workers are poised to start mining the other side of this seam later this year in one of the world's largest gold deposits: 23 million ounces worth about $40 billion.

The Haitian government's annual budget is $1 billion, more than half provided by foreign assistance. The largest single source of foreign investment, $2 billion, came from Haitians working abroad last year. A windfall of locally produced wealth could pay for roads, schools, clean water and sewage systems for the nation's 10 million people, most of whom live on as little as $1.25 a day.

"If the mining companies are honest and if Haiti has a good government, then here is a way for this country to move forward," said Bureau of Mines Director Dieuseul Anglade.


In a parking lot outside Anglade's marble-floored office, more than 100 families have been living in tents since the earthquake. "The gold in the mountains belongs to the people of Haiti," he said, gesturing out his window. "And they need it."


Haiti's geological vulnerability is also its promise. Massive tectonic plates squeeze the island with horrifying consequences, but deep cracks between them form convenient veins for gold, silver and copper pushed up from the hot innards of the planet. Prospectors from California to Chile know earthquake faults often have, quite literally, a golden lining...

hamerfan

(1,404 posts)
14. Hooray for Elizabeth!
Mon May 14, 2012, 05:13 AM
May 2012

She's one of the very, very few I trust to protect the consumer from the TBTF jerks!

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
13. The Financial World's Worst Nightmare
Mon May 14, 2012, 03:46 AM
May 2012
http://truthingold.blogspot.fr/2012/05/financial-worlds-worst-nightmare.html

...What we know for sure is that there is a derivatives trader in London working for JPM who was running a trading/capital position that is thought to be as large as $200 billion. For JPM/Dimon to publicly claim that the embedded loss in this position is only 1% is complete fraud. To begin with, JPM's stated book value as of 12/31/11 is $183 billion. There is no way in hell that JPM would call a surprise conference call to disclose a loss from a bad hedge that amounts to less than 1% of shareholder equity. Even by today's absurdly loose accounting standards, anything less than a 5% event is not considered to be meaningful.

What this tells us is that JP Morgan's liquidity is potentially threatened by what is unfolding in its $78 trillion derivatives book (per recent OCC filings). Even worse, despite all the claims to the contrary, and Dimon's insistence of JPM's "fortress" balance sheet, the risk managers at JPM have no idea how to hedge $78 trillion in exposure and this myth about "net" vs. "notional" derivatives exposure is complete fraud.

The other disclosure by Dimon last night that really irritates - and one that is part of the expensive lipstick he liberally applied - is the remark that JPM has $8 billion in "unrealized" gains in its "available for sale" portfolio. Give me a break. I would challenge Dimon to go ahead and sell those holdings at market and let's see what the real number is. I would not be surprised if what is realizable is a small fraction of that. While we won't know what the true mark to market status of JPM's book value is, I would bet meaningful money that it is less than half of what is being stated in its 10k/10q filings.

Beyond all of this, we really don't know much. JP Morgan did a masterful public relations job at obscuring the facts and minimizing the data and details that would be meaningful to any analyst who is looking for the truth. But we should expect nothing but this kind of useless bullshit given that the Obama Government has made it clear that they are not going to do anything to implement supervision and law enforcement on the group of banks and individuals who have contributed and raised the most amount of money for Obama's 2008 and current election campaigns.
 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
15. I wish there were something to say that hasn't already been said and repeated
Mon May 14, 2012, 07:13 AM
May 2012

over a period of years. This is the track our train is on. We will not be allowed to change destinations and there are no stops along the way to facilitate an orderly disembarkation.

Still, this is worthy of its daily K&R.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
64. Yep. I just wish I could afford one of those parachute-airbag landing systems.
Mon May 14, 2012, 10:58 AM
May 2012

Still, a sprained or broken ankle is better that that sudden stop at the end of the line.

bread_and_roses

(6,335 posts)
16. "enslave[d]... through wages, subservience to the commodity culture and debt peonage"
Mon May 14, 2012, 07:40 AM
May 2012
http://www.alternet.org/economy/155213/hedges%3A_how_our_demented_capitalist_system_made_america_insane/?page=entire

Hedges: How Our Demented Capitalist System Made America Insane
When civilizations start to die they go insane. Let the ice sheets in the Arctic melt. Let the temperatures rise. Let the air, soil and water be poisoned. Let the forests die.

... The quest by a bankrupt elite in the final days of empire to accumulate greater and greater wealth, as Karl Marx observed, is modern society’s version of primitive fetishism. This quest, as there is less and less to exploit, leads to mounting repression, increased human suffering, a collapse of infrastructure and, finally, collective death. It is the self-deluded, those on Wall Street or among the political elite, those who entertain and inform us, those who lack the capacity to question the lusts that will ensure our self-annihilation, who are held up as exemplars of intelligence, success and progress. The World Health Organization calculates that one in four people in the United States suffers from chronic anxiety, a mood disorder or depression—which seems to me to be a normal reaction to our march toward collective suicide. Welcome to the asylum.


Hedges in his usual fine form today. On the thread Tansy referenced above, I noticed someone claimed that "Occupy" was having no effect - as proof the poster stated that if it were TPTB would have struck back (tht's a paraphrase). I guess said poster has not been reading the news.

Well, as noted over the weekend, there are stirrings and rustlings in the hedgerow. We'll see. Evidently the Banksters are not contributing as much as in '08 to the Obama campaign - a sure sign of their total disconnect from reality as he's been their BBF. But nothing is enough.

(one place we sure here no rustlings is on NPR, where this AM the ever-predictable "Cokie" repeated, in her oh-so-world-weary-voice the ghoul vampires claim that they were the ones "who create things" (or words to that effect - again, I don't recall exact language), without noting the description as "self-proclaimed" or giving any indication that there are those who dispute that claim)

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
24. Modern day slavery in Florida.
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:54 AM
May 2012

This isn't the first time things like this have been reported.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/florida-farm-workers-tell-how-drugs-debt-bind-them-in-modern-slavery/1229662

Florida farm workers tell how drugs, debt bind them in modern slavery

By Ben Montgomery, Times Staff Writer
In Print: Sunday, May 13, 2012

HASTINGS — LeRoy Smith thought he had hit rock bottom when he found himself trolling Atlanta's gay district, looking to exchange sex acts for a hot hit off a crack pipe. Then he wound up on a Florida farm near the small town of Hastings, being bilked blind, he says, by a man with a fifth-grade education, sweating all day for a few dirty dollars, with no way to escape from the middle-of-nowhere camp.

He did not think slavery existed in modern America. He knows better now.

The recruiters had found LeRoy Smith playing chess in a park in Jacksonville on May 1, 2010. They pegged him for a black man with a back strong enough for farm work and an addiction strong enough to stick around and work for nothing. He was hooked on crack, but he had enough sense to recognize peonage when he saw it, and to slip away by night to safety.

And now he's talking. He filed a lawsuit last month in federal court against the man he says enslaved him. And he's talking to the Tampa Bay Times in hopes that publicity will cleanse Florida of indentured servitude.

The man he accuses says it's all a lie. Confronted with the allegations, Ronald Uzzle dismissed them and told a reporter to get off his property.

There's something going on in this small town and it might be hard to care because the victims are often homeless black men who live mostly in the shadows. Many have criminal records and sins in their past.

(snip)

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
18. Stocks fall in Europe, Asia amid Greek turmoil
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:19 AM
May 2012
http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0514/Stocks-fall-in-Europe-Asia-amid-Greek-turmoil

World stock markets fell Monday as optimism over a move by China's central bank to encourage lending were offset by lingering uncertainty about crisis-struck Greece.


European stocks plummeted in early trading. Britain's FTSE 100 fell 1.8 percent and Germany's DAX tumbled 2.2 percent. France's CAC-40 lost 2.4 percent. Wall Street also appeared set for a lower opening, with Dow Jones industrial futures down 0.8 percent to 12,686 and S&P 500 futures losing 0.9 percent to 1,337.30.

Asian stocks also endured losses, although one notable exception was Japan, where the benchmark Nikkei 225 index rose 0.2 percent to close at 8,973.84.


Hong Kong's Hang Seng Index fell 1.2 percent to 19,735.04 while South Korea's Kospi slipped 0.2 percent to 1,913.73. Benchmarks in Singapore, Taiwan and Indonesia also fell.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
19. US Futures: Look out below!
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:39 AM
May 2012
[font color="red"]S&P 500 1,338.50 -11.50 -0.85%
DOW 12,697 -91.00 -0.71%
NASDAQ 2,591 -20.25 -0.78% [/font]


 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
32. Why We Regulate By PAUL KRUGMAN
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:22 AM
May 2012
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/14/opinion/krugman-why-we-regulate.html

One of the characters in the classic 1939 film “Stagecoach” is a banker named Gatewood who lectures his captive audience on the evils of big government, especially bank regulation — “As if we bankers don’t know how to run our own banks!” he exclaims. As the film progresses, we learn that Gatewood is in fact skipping town with a satchel full of embezzled cash. As far as we know, Jamie Dimon, the chairman and C.E.O. of JPMorgan Chase, isn’t planning anything similar. He has, however, been fond of giving Gatewood-like speeches about how he and his colleagues know what they’re doing, and don’t need the government looking over their shoulders. So there’s a large heap of poetic justice — and a major policy lesson — in JPMorgan’s shock announcement that it somehow managed to lose $2 billion in a failed bit of financial wheeling-dealing...

A BIT OF HISTORY WENT HERE

So what can be done? In the 1930s, after the mother of all banking panics, we arrived at a workable solution, involving both guarantees and oversight. On one side, the scope for panic was limited via government-backed deposit insurance; on the other, banks were subject to regulations intended to keep them from abusing the privileged status they derived from deposit insurance, which is in effect a government guarantee of their debts. Most notably, banks with government-guaranteed deposits weren’t allowed to engage in the often risky speculation characteristic of investment banks like Lehman Brothers. This system gave us half a century of relative financial stability. Eventually, however, the lessons of history were forgotten. New forms of banking without government guarantees proliferated, while both conventional and newfangled banks were allowed to take on ever-greater risks. Sure enough, we eventually suffered the 21st-century version of a Gilded Age banking panic, with terrible consequences.

It’s clear, then, that we need to restore the sorts of safeguards that gave us a couple of generations without major banking panics. It’s clear, that is, to everyone except bankers and the politicians they bankroll — for now that they have been bailed out, the bankers would of course like to go back to business as usual. Did I mention that Wall Street is giving vast sums to Mitt Romney, who has promised to repeal recent financial reforms?

HISTORY OF DIMON AND JPMORGAN HERE

For the moment Mr. Dimon seems chastened, even admitting that maybe the proponents of stronger regulation have a point. It probably won’t last; I expect Wall Street to be back to its usual arrogance within weeks if not days. But the truth is that we’ve just seen an object demonstration of why Wall Street does, in fact, need to be regulated. Thank you, Mr. Dimon.
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
34. I Oughtta Get Me One of Those
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:24 AM
May 2012



IT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE. FOR THOSE NOT UP ON DILBERT, THE EGGHEAD GUY IS THE CEO, OR AT LEAST UPPER, UPPER MANAGEMENT.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
61. I was over-served to put it mildly.
Mon May 14, 2012, 10:33 AM
May 2012

Spent a lot of time in the pool.

But, Coconut Margaritas, at 7:00am on a Sunday morning at the dog park is a little much.

I'm going to quit smoking tomorrow. So, I'll probably be pretty grouchy for a while.

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
67. Happiest of Birthdays....
Mon May 14, 2012, 01:32 PM
May 2012

to my favorite combatant in the Battle of Wits. Glad to here you giving up the evil weed, I'd like to see you around here for many more years.....Anne

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
38. JPMorgan probe into London role in loss
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:31 AM
May 2012

JPMorgan Chase is investigating whether London-based traders hid the extent of losses on credit derivatives positions, according to people familiar with an internal probe following last week’s revelation of $2bn losses

Read more >>
http://link.ft.com/r/WDI4RR/HY0L2U/52KB7/B5JT8O/L9ZMGR/FW/t?a1=2012&a2=5&a3=13
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
39. Dreyfus to tap capital markets
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:32 AM
May 2012

Louis Dreyfus Commodities, one of the world’s biggest food trading houses, plans to tap the capital markets for the first time in its 160-year history, as it embarks on a $7bn spending programme that will include a string of acquisitions

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http://link.ft.com/r/VKY5JJ/JEVHV9/T10SH/16WSN3/TUDI2C/YT/t?a1=2012&a2=5&a3=13
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
40. Canary Wharf set to upstage City
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:32 AM
May 2012

Canary Wharf will finally come of age over the next two months when the UK’s “new” financial centre overtakes the traditional City of London as the biggest employer of bankers in Europe

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http://link.ft.com/r/6NPSBB/B5HFF5/06MUC/4CDDBV/8ZLHQ3/VU/t?a1=2012&a2=5&a3=13
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
41. Steven Rattner - Don’t overreact to JPMorgan’s loss
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:33 AM
May 2012

We need to accept without panicking that a bank –particularly one as large and as well capitalised as JPMorgan – may from time to time lose $2bn in a non-systemic misstep. Far more was lost by banks from old-fashioned corporate loans turning sour during each of the last two recessions. Banking has always involved risks and always will.

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http://link.ft.com/r/CTBPCC/5V3SGL/SUO9T/2OXF1P/GD0MR8/4O/t?a1=2012&a2=5&a3=14

I DON'T THINK IT'S POSSIBLE TO OVERREACT TO THIS EVENT.
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
42. Mohamed El-Erian - The eurozone must shrink to survive
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:34 AM
May 2012

For the longer-term stability of Europe and the global economy, European leaders urgently need to redefine their historical unity project rather than leave it in the hands of increasingly disorderly conditions on the ground.

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http://link.ft.com/r/VKY5JJ/DWGUM3/RP6QL/B5JT6E/2OFLHS/OS/t?a1=2012&a2=5&a3=14
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
45. Fear grows of Greece leaving euro
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:36 AM
May 2012


ECB council members’ comments indicate risk of eurozone fragmentation is being taken increasingly seriously

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http://link.ft.com/r/VKY5JJ/JEVG9E/IEP5S/FK363D/JE2ZWP/D5/t?a1=2012&a2=5&a3=14
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
43. Hard Currency: FT's new podcast on markets
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:35 AM
May 2012

Currencies correspondent Alice Ross explores the trends driving the global currencies market, this week focusing on sterling’s status as a haven currency, why the euro is still strong against the dollar and how a further rate cut in Australia will impact the carry trade

Read more >>
http://link.ft.com/r/FG6LAA/2ORDGW/FDFZE/JELCZ4/YB9JX8/6C/t?a1=2012&a2=5&a3=13

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
46. P MORGAN NAMES MATT ZAMES NEW CIO, INA DREW OUT
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:36 AM
May 2012
http://www.businessinsider.com/jp-morgan-names-matt-zames-new-cio-ina-drew-out-2012-5

Matt Zames will be the new chief investment officer of JP Morgan, according to a release from the bank. Zames was formerly the co-head of Global Fixed Income in the bank's investment bank unit, and head of Capital Markets within the mortgage bank.
The move comes after JP Morgan disclosed a $2 billion trading loss related to a credit derivatives portfolio in its chief investment office.
Ina Drew, who previously ran the office, is retiring from the bank, according to the press release. Drew was expected to leave the bank along with other high-level employees who were part of the trade that resulted in the losses for JPM.
In addition, Mike Cavanagh, the CEO of JPM's Treasury & Securities Services, has been appointed to lead a group that will oversee firmwide response to the trading loss.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/jp-morgan-names-matt-zames-new-cio-ina-drew-out-2012-5#ixzz1uqp1T5B0
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
47. Spain ready to intervene in Asturias
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:36 AM
May 2012

Madrid says it is considering forcing further cuts in the autonomous northern region or seizing control of its budget

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http://link.ft.com/r/VKY5JJ/JEVG9E/IEP5S/FK363D/QNWKQL/D5/t?a1=2012&a2=5&a3=14

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
48. KRUGMAN: Here's How The Whole Eurozone Could Unravel In Just A Matter Of Months
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:39 AM
May 2012
http://www.businessinsider.com/krugman-heres-how-the-whole-eurozone-could-unravel-in-just-a-matter-of-months-2012-5

Paul Krugman has a gloomy post this evening explaining how quickly the whole Euro could unravel.
It basically goes like this: Greece leaves the euro "very possibly next month." That would lead to a massive run on Italian and Spanish banks. There would be massive borrowing from the ECB to prevent a banking collapse. At which point Germany has to decide: Shoulder a major burden for the debts of Spain/Italy, etc., or let it all go.
He concludes: "And we’re talking about months, not years, for this to play out."
This might be extreme, but it might not be, but the key is that it would be a Greek departure that would set it all off. A country leaving the Eurozone would have terrible consequences, which everyone realizes, and actually that part of the reason that investors don't think it's going to happen -- because it would be so bad.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/krugman-heres-how-the-whole-eurozone-could-unravel-in-just-a-matter-of-months-2012-5#ixzz1uqpbIT7c

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
50. Jamie Dimon Sent In A Team Of 'Navy Seals' To Fix The Trading Blunder Before It Blew Up
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:42 AM
May 2012
http://www.businessinsider.com/jamie-dimon-sent-in-a-team-of-navy-seals-to-fix-the-trading-blunder-before-it-blew-up-2012-5

***SNIP

So what did Dimon do? He sent in bank's version of the Navy Seals (aka a group eight of risk managers lead by chief risk officer John Hogan) to try to remedy the situation. [via efinancialcareers]
From The New York Times (emphasis added):
Losses were mounting on the trade as hedge funds’ bets against the bank turned profitable. Conference calls between New York and London were not producing satisfactory answers. A team of risk officers now referred to as the Navy Seals began meeting twice a day, at 8 a.m. and 4 p.m., with Mr. Dimon frequently in attendance.
We're definitely intrigued by the name 'Navy Seals' given to this team. It just goes to show the high regard for risk managers during intense situations that must be rectified.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/jamie-dimon-sent-in-a-team-of-navy-seals-to-fix-the-trading-blunder-before-it-blew-up-2012-5#ixzz1uqqFHwZC

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
54. Eurozone industrial production falls back in March
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:48 AM
May 2012
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18057093

Industrial production in the eurozone fell by 0.3% in March, figures have shown, fuelling concerns that the bloc has returned to recession.

The main factor behind the monthly fall was an 8.5% fall in energy production.

On an annual basis, production dropped by 2.2%, Eurostat said.

On Tuesday, the statistics agency will release its first estimate for eurozone GDP between January and March, with many economists expecting a second consecutive quarter of negative growth.

westerebus

(2,976 posts)
55. Just how much is JPM going to unwind?
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:48 AM
May 2012

Oil is down. Gold/silver is down. NG is underground. Is all that the counter to the credit hedge that is unwinding?

This is looking very suspicious. Bear baiting?

I haven't seen anything from the Squid which makes me wonder.

It's probably nothing.

Off to the coal mines. See you later.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
57. ** An Ex-LTCM Trader Will Be Overseeing $70 Trillion In Derivatives **
Mon May 14, 2012, 10:03 AM
May 2012
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/ex-ltcm-trader-will-be-overseeing-70-trillion-derivatives#comment-2423452

We wish to welcome former LTCM trader, and current TBAC chairman, Matt Zames to his new post as head of the world's biggest, government backstopped prop trading desk, with a hearty and sincere "good luck." Because an ex-LTCMer in charge of ~$70 trillion in derivatives? Why, what can possibly go wrong...




bread_and_roses

(6,335 posts)
59. "More than 200,000 long-term jobless Americans will lose their unemployment..."
Mon May 14, 2012, 10:15 AM
May 2012
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/jobless-americans-lose-unemployment-benefits-094500875.html


Jobless Americans to lose unemployment benefits
CNNMoney.comBy Tami Luhby | CNNMoney.com – Fri, May 11, 2012 3:18 PM EDT

More than 200,000 long-term jobless Americans will lose their unemployment checks this week, when eight states roll off the federal extended benefits program.

Nearly half of them live in California, and the rest reside in Florida, Illinois, North Carolina, Colorado, Connecticut, Pennsylvania and Texas.

... the extended benefits program is expiring throughout the country as the economy improves. To be eligible for these benefits, a state must show that its unemployment rate is at least 10% higher than it was in at least one of the past three years.

State unemployment rates have been falling as the jobless find new positions or exit the workforce.


I read last week that this was on the horizon, but it was so hard to believe I immediately forgot it.

This is so insane - (maybe next weekend our theme should be "One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest" -a `la Hedges - which I've neither read nor seen but which so struck a chord even then that almost anyone knows the outline) for all the reasons we already know - and do any of these robot reporters ever ask how it is that the economy can be so "improving" when so many still can't find work?

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
60. an hour in, markets still plumbing new daily lows
Mon May 14, 2012, 10:30 AM
May 2012
[font color="red"]Dow 12,665 -156 -1.22%
Nasdaq 2,899 -35 -1.18%
S&P 500 1,337 -17 -1.22%
GlobalDow 1,821 -33 -1.77%
Gold 1,559 -25 -1.57%
Oil 94.09 -2.04 -2.12%

FTSE 100 5,437 -138 -2.48%
CAC 40 3,043 -86 -2.76%
DAX 6,406 -174 -2.64%
FTSE MIB 13,544 -501 -3.57%
IBEX 35 IDX 6,772 -223 -3.19%

$1US/YEN 79.7100 -0.2750
Pound / $1US 1.6090 0.0023[/font]
Euro/$1US 1.2833 -0.0069
Dollar Index 80.65 0.35
10yr T-note 1.78 -0.07


 

just1voice

(1,362 posts)
66. Dept. of Justice must actually be doing it's job re: oil manipulators
Mon May 14, 2012, 01:21 PM
May 2012

Either that or billion dollar losses at JP Morgan are requiring speculators to cash in some spec money in oil markets. Good to see the price going down.

girl gone mad

(20,634 posts)
68. It's the latter.
Mon May 14, 2012, 02:25 PM
May 2012

Oil has been driven up by speculation. Once the margin calls start coming, oil will fall. Not sure that the London Whale (JP Morgan) losses have anything to do with it, but Europe's declines do. Gold will fall for the same reason.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
76. To pay of their bad bets, JPMorgan needs to sell real things: gold, silver, oil
Mon May 14, 2012, 03:33 PM
May 2012

Funny pieces of paper won't do.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
72. RoseAnn DeMoro Explains How to Raise $350 Billion from Financial Transaction Tax
Mon May 14, 2012, 03:24 PM
May 2012
http://www.alternet.org/story/155402/%22serious_as_a_heart_attack%22%3A_roseann_demoro_explains_how_to_raise_%24350_billion_from_financial_transaction_tax?akid=8772.227380.HHLwBx&rd=1&t=22

Bill Moyers talks to RoseAnn DeMoro, who heads the largest registered nurses union in the country, and will lead a Chicago march protesting economic inequality on May 18. DeMoro is championing the Robin Hood Tax, a small government levy the financial sector would pay on commercial transactions like stocks and bonds. The money generated, which some estimate could be as much as $350 billion annually, could be used for social programs and job creation — ultimately to people who, without a doubt, need it more than the banks do.

DeMoro and her organization, National Nurses United, have an inspiring history of defeating some of the toughest opponents in government and politics....

TRANSCRIPT OF INTERVIEW FOLLOWS
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
73. "The Amateur" Claims Obama Camp Offered Rev. Wright $150k To STFU
Mon May 14, 2012, 03:27 PM
May 2012
http://www.loop21.com/life/the-amateur-reverend-wright-150k-obama-hush-money?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+theloop21+%28TheLoop21.com+Comprehensive+Feed%29

I HOPE HE TOOK IT

The president's former pastor says he was offered hush money in 2008.

If somebody offered you $150,000 to shut your trap, would you do it?

That's a question Rev. Jeremiah Wright asked himself four years ago and he answered no.

In 2008, the pastor said his former friend and congregate President Obama and his team reached out to him asking him to cease anymore speaking engagements after his infamous "Goddamn America" speech almost derailed the entire Obama campaign.

In an interview for a book titled The Amateur, penned by conservative author Edward Klein, Wright is quoted as saying he received an e-mail offering him money not to preach until after the November 2008 presidential election. He says he was not offered the money directly, but instead, someone in Obama's camp contacted someone in his church who then relayed the message to him.

After that, he said Obama himself asked to meet with him in a "secret, secure" place.

"I said, ‘You’re used to coming to my home, you’ve been here countless times, so what’s wrong with coming to my home,'" Wright reportedly says in the book. "So we met in the living room of the parsonage of Trinity United Church of Christ, at South Pleasant Avenue right off 95th Street, just Barack and me. I don’t know if he had a wire on him. His security was outside somewhere."

BUT WAIT! THERE'S MORE! WATCH OUT FOR THE PREDATOR DRONE, BOYS AND GIRLS...HE'S A MEAN, NASTY SOB.
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
74. I can't tell if I'm having an out-of-body or
Mon May 14, 2012, 03:29 PM
May 2012

out-of-mind kind of day, but in any event, I'm out of here for the most part. Carry on in my absence, Marketeers!

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