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Why 80 percent of top students get into elite collegesWonkblog
By Max Ehrenfreund December 1 at 8:10 AM
It isn't just high school seniors who try to make themselves look good in college admissions. So do the schools, and they waste everyone's time and money in the process.
Comparing the number of people who apply to the number who are accepted is the most obvious way to measure how selective a college is. As a result, colleges have been doing everything they can to make themselves seem more popular by encouraging even unqualified applicants to apply. "The marketing is unbelievable, just unbelievable," one counselor said. "There are places like Tulane that will send everyone a 'V.I.P.' application."
The results are artificially depressed acceptance rates, and an increasingly frenzied admissions process. Data suggest that controlling for students' standardized test scores, qualified applicants can still expect to get into elite schools, as Kevin Carey reports for The New York Times. Eighty percent of well-qualified applicants are accepted into at least one elite school -- they just have to send out more applications to be sure of receiving an acceptance letter somewhere. According to one survey, the number of high school students applying to at least seven colleges has more than tripled since 1990, to 29 percent.
This shell game in college admissions is just one example of a much large problem: There's no handy way of ranking schools. In order to maintain their place on lists like that of U.S. News and World Report, colleges do all kinds of things that are at best a distraction from teaching. Sometimes, these shenanigans are costly. Witness George Washington University's monumental spending on new dormitories and recreational facilities for students, which transformed the campus from an affordable commuter school that could serve working people to an exclusive and expensive but highly ranked university.
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Odin2005
(53,521 posts)...government-subsidized loans as possible. Actual education has become irrelevant.
College has become one giant scam run by the colleges themselves and the Banksters who profit from the loans.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)To George Washington for my Masters was a complete shock tuition wise. I believe it was $1041 a credit at GW up from around $78 or some really cheap price at FSU. I would never complain about my employment opportunities from getting a degree from GW at all.. Stunningly incredible actually, but still I thought I misread the tuition cost at first. Lol.
FBaggins
(26,731 posts)I wonder how those fees compare to actual expenses.
Man from Pickens
(1,713 posts)by encouraging large numbers of people to apply, who they never intend to accept, these colleges can claim to be more exclusive than others which don't play the game
wilsonbooks
(972 posts)To get that 80% figure they are saying that there are 113 elete
schools to apply to. While most of the 113 schools are good
schools, they are not elite schools. They also base this on a
Sat score of 1300. A 1300 SAT would not get you into any of
the top 20 colleges or Universities.