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Related: About this forumIcahn warns market is ‘extremely overheated’
(MarketWatch) Activist investor Carl Icahn took to Twitter and CNBC Wednesday to issue a stark warning to investors: I think the public is walking into a trap again as they did in 2007, Icahn told CNBC.
Specifically, the 79-year-old investor warned of a bubble in high-yield debt. The prominent investor joins a chorus of voices pointing at frothiness in the so-called junk-bond market, including DoubleLine Capital founder Jeff Gundlach.
In two tweets published on Wednesday, Icahn cautioned against listening to so-called permabulls, saying the 2008 crisis might have been avoided if more investors had warned about the risk of a bubble in 2007, as he is attempting to do now.
On Monday, Los Angeles-based bond fund manager Jerry Cudzil, head of U.S. credit trading at TCW Group, told Bloomberg that he is also building up a big cash stockpile to brace for a bond-market selloff. ..................(more)
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/icahn-warns-market-is-extremely-overheated-2015-06-24
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Not too many average Joe's are invested in junk bonds, so the public really isn't walking into this. A bubble bursting in the junk bond market isn't going to produce anything like 2007.
pscot
(21,024 posts)enlightenment
(8,830 posts)If so, I'd say a significant portion of the public is being led into it.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Those are usually rated AA+ or better. I don't know of any large pension funds that allow buying junk bonds. That doesn't mean there are not any, but I would suspect it is rare.
enlightenment
(8,830 posts)I read that in 2007/8, the "junk bonds" were actually AAA rated . . . does that no longer happen?
Article I read, here: http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/041515/what-role-did-junk-bonds-play-financial-crisis-200708.asp
Warpy
(111,339 posts)but it's been flat for weeks, barely above and below an 18,000 Dow.
Having finally realized the party is over (I figured that out in April), he's looking for another bubble for his billions.
Good luck, buddy, the only way to create bubbles is to have a strong middle class with cash or unlimited credit to invest in them. None of these conditions exist now. The present stock market bubble was created by the government through quantitative easing. That tap is no longer functional and unless the billionaires and the banksters can talk the government into printing more funny money for them, they're about to get hosed.