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they certainly have been made to suffer enough and I think the debt at this point should be forgiven. But I'm guessing that's as likely to happen as my student loans that I took out based on false statements by the University, the Federal Government and a local HR rep.
OTOH, Merkel might just be stupid and vindictive enough to throw them out of the EU and cause those dominos to start toppling. 
but that would be political suicide for her too. 
I wasn't at the negotiating table, so have no idea how or whether they showed "disrespect" or "bad manners."
Certainly the Troika's hiding the IMF report for the last 5 years -- which made clear that without debt restructuring, the loans would collapse the economy, was not only disrespectful and lacking in manners, it was a deliberate and vicious attempt to destroy the Greek economy and people for the obvious purpose of trying to privatize Greece at bankruptcy prices.
I don't know how "respectful" or "mannerly" I'd be at the negotiating table with people who forced ruin on my country.
I do know I have a hard time behaving respectfully or with good manners to my neighbor who has tried to kill my horses, tried to kill my dogs, trespassed and damaged my property with the intent of driving me into bankruptcy. All after I laughed when he verbally offered $85K for my farm. And I know that if I were forced to "negotiate" with him, I'd probably try to strangle him with my bare hands if I weren't choking on my own puke.
